Expectations for Total War: Warhammer 3 (Part 4)

bradleyvincentwells#9754

Previous parts in this series:

Part One: https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/280910/expectations-for-total-war-warhammer-3#latest
Part Two: https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/280921/expectations-for-total-war-warhammer-3-part-2#latest
Part Three: https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/280967/expectations-for-total-war-warhammer-3-part-3/p1?new=1

This series compiles and condenses the expectations fans have for Total War: Warhammer 3. Fans have communicated these expectations in places such as this forum, YouTube, and Reddit. The overall list has 15 expectations in no specific order.

This post will highlight expectations 10-12. Each expectation is ranked according to how likely it is to appear in-game.



Total War:Warhammer 3 Expectations- Part 4

Wyvax#7456

Yes!

I kind of hope that the Red Duke get's moved somewhere (as well as renamed to the Scourge of Aquitaine) and Mallobaude is added to bring us a proper evil Brettonian Mousillon, the two could feature in each other's campaigns however, similar to how Gor-Rok and Nakai reinforce each other in their campaign quests.

The heraldry of Mallobaude.

UberReptilian#8431

I second the notion of Mallobaude for Mousillon. Let the Red duke be his own thing.

I assume CA won’t bother though and just make him an FLC Blood Dragon LL that starts at Mousillon and his faction is Mousillon.

Bonutz#3949

I’d go as far as to say that the Dogs of War are guaranteed. Just the fact they have an army book practically guarantees their inclusion.

TotalBorehammer#4533

bradleyvincentwells said:

Previous parts in this series:



This series compiles and condenses the expectations fans have for Total War: Warhammer 3. Fans have communicated these expectations in places such as this forum, YouTube, and Reddit. The overall list has 15 expectations in no specific order.

Thanks for your work on this. It would also be much more convenient if you just aggregated all of those charts into the latest thread so people didn't have to go click and read the others.

HighPriest_Astragoth#4150

For the Red Duke, we could see him appear in the Game 3 map somewhere in the Plain of Plenty, known in modern times as the Plain of Bones, next to being a location where "Here be dead Dragons" it is a massive hotbed for all Undead and practitioners of Necromancy, the Tomb Kings once fought the Chaos Dwarfs for this area, while flesh and blood, and as amazing as it sounds, it seems they may have actually won their battles for ownership of the Plain of Plenty, yet lost their war for the soon to be dubbed Plain of Bones. I would love to see the Red Duke duking it out(pun unintended) with the Tomb Kings, should make for some wonderful dialogue.

As for Ole Toddy, me personally, I would be smitten if we could see him tag on with Kislev as they attempt to resettle the Wheatlands aka the Farside Colonies, just think about it, we could be seeing Toddy setting up a Ulric worshiping colony away from the taint of the Sigmarites, this would also go well into creating a nice co-op campaign where the worshipers of the Wolf and Bear join forces to kick daemonic ass as they strive to expend the Fatherland and Motherland into the estranged East.

Like a brotherly rivalry, Boris has shown resentment not at Karl, not at the Empire as a whole, but the Sigmarite cult who is constantly ridiculing the cult of Ulric. He hated the fact that his ancestor Gunther did not become the Emperor after Magnus' death all thanks to the Sigmarite Cult. Boris being the devoted follower of Ulric, he has a very strain relation with the Empire, distrusting anything coming from the Sigmarite cult or the Grand Theogonist himself.

Hey @bradleyvincentwells , what about the idea of game 3 coming in with truly legendary Monster Battles, much like the ones Norsca has, but they are for whoever gets there first/triggers the event? In the Dark Lands alone there are some truly massive and godlike beings, such as Omdra the Dread-

Her size and power was so great, that it took tens of thousands of Chaos Dwarfs, barbarians and foul creatures of the Chaos Waste to take her down, and even then, she merely slid back into her lair to heal once more.

This monster of legend has stirred once more and its dominion has carried across the northern Plain of Bones. Its colossal black-winged shadow scatters all before it in nightmare and terror.

No mere beast -- however great its size -- was Omdra, but an ancient and wicked creature with dark magics to match even the vaunted Sayl, and at whose inhuman will gargantuan Maw Wyrms rose up from the black sands to give battle alongside packs of hungry Crypt Ghouls, to whom the dragon was no less than a god, and threw themselves with savage piety against the Kurgan.

In this battle were thousands slain, both Kurgan and Chaos Dwarf together, and here did the Great Chaos Spawn Garth'grak fall, and even mighty Bubebolos suffered grievous wounds as the Nightmare Dragon and its servants ambushed the horde's main column in the dead of night.

At great cost in blood and sorcery was the Dragon-god herself gravely injured and driven away to slumber beneath the bones of her dead kin, her threat to the Desolation of Azgorh broken -- at least for a time

DeadpoolSW#7283

At this point, I'd say Toddy is guaranteed, the only question is when.

DavidTWWH#4143

I feel like dogs of war have a shot at being a core race, I can think of a couple LPs for them off the top of my head (Lorenzo lupo vs golgfag, the grudgebringers vs Thanquol).
That said Kislev is probably more popular and also a great choice, in fact probably a better choice from a narrative/thematic standpoint.

Kn_Gars#2718

The Knights Panther are not a 'key unit" for the Ulric faction, they are a secular order and while the headquarters are located near Carroburg the majority of the order resides outside Middenland. The Middenheim Chapter does however provide the bodyguard of Boris Todbringer who is a patron of the order (a nod to the lore from the 'Power behind the throne' campaign.) You could only have a single unit of them in the tabletop when playing the Middenland army while the Cult of Ulric army was not allowed any KP IIRC. While I very much want to see the KP in game there are other units which are more important to the Ulric/Middenland feel such as the Wolfkin. In the best of worlds we should get both but with CA you never quite know.

#324448

Wyvax said:

Yes!

I kind of hope that the Red Duke get's moved somewhere (as well as renamed to the Scourge of Aquitaine) and Mallobaude is added to bring us a proper evil Brettonian Mousillon, the two could feature in each other's campaigns however, similar to how Gor-Rok and Nakai reinforce each other in their campaign quests.

The heraldry of Mallobaude.

Agree completely. Frankly, I'm not sure why they even added the Red Duke. He's far from being the most important Blood Dragon (Abhorash and Walach Harkon precede him) and he's not even from Mousillon. Would much rather have Mallobaude in that capacity.

55JoNNo#4925

Giveaway412 said:

Wyvax said:

Yes!

I kind of hope that the Red Duke get's moved somewhere (as well as renamed to the Scourge of Aquitaine) and Mallobaude is added to bring us a proper evil Brettonian Mousillon, the two could feature in each other's campaigns however, similar to how Gor-Rok and Nakai reinforce each other in their campaign quests.

The heraldry of Mallobaude.

Agree completely. Frankly, I'm not sure why they even added the Red Duke. He's far from being the most important Blood Dragon (Abhorash and Walach Harkon precede him) and he's not even from Mousillon. Would much rather have Mallobaude in that capacity.

My gut feeling is that they had planned a slightly different DLC and then their plans changed. The narrow way they've defined what type of DLC content should be added probably tripped them up a bit.

bradleyvincentwells#9754

TotalBorehammer said:

bradleyvincentwells said:

Previous parts in this series:



This series compiles and condenses the expectations fans have for Total War: Warhammer 3. Fans have communicated these expectations in places such as this forum, YouTube, and Reddit. The overall list has 15 expectations in no specific order.

Thanks for your work on this. It would also be much more convenient if you just aggregated all of those charts into the latest thread so people didn't have to go click and read the others.

Thank you. And yes. I'll do that. I thought about making one post with all charts in the very beginning, but it just looked too busy. Thus, I broke it up.

bradleyvincentwells#9754

@HighPriest_Astragoth, I am TOTALLY onboard with your monster suggestions! Very cool.

bradleyvincentwells#9754

I left the "e" off on Mallobaude's name in my write-up. Apologies.

LordSolarMach#5538

KN_Gars said:

The Knights Panther are not a 'key unit" for the Ulric faction, they are a secular order and while the headquarters are located near Carroburg the majority of the order resides outside Middenland. The Middenheim Chapter does however provide the bodyguard of Boris Todbringer who is a patron of the order (a nod to the lore from the 'Power behind the throne' campaign.) You could only have a single unit of them in the tabletop when playing the Middenland army while the Cult of Ulric army was not allowed any KP IIRC. While I very much want to see the KP in game there are other units which are more important to the Ulric/Middenland feel such as the Wolfkin. In the best of worlds we should get both but with CA you never quite know.

Boris should be FLC as a Middenheim faction, and he should come with FLC Knights Panther.

Then the corresponding DLC faction of Cult of Ulric, led by Emil Valgeir, would bring the Ulrican units.