Ind Inputs warhammer III

Jathin789

Now since Cathay is official in Warhammer 3, Ind is a natural progression. Ind is not much a developed faction in Warhammer universe, besides what ever was developed may have fallen in to some old stereotypes. So in order to give a detailed account of Indian legends myths and history that is loosely what Ind is based up on this forum is created.

A few basic ideas I want to lay out are-

1. When doing kingdoms of Ind kindly read the legends from India like Ramayana and Mahabharata.
2. We want vimanas(flying machines), ape soldiers(vaanar sena), nuke like missiles (brahmastra and other astra), mega giant chariots(search the word juggernaut and it's origin) , vyali( half lion half elephant giant mythical creature), garuda(giant eagle) , nagas (reptilians). etc.

Wyvax#7456

Nagas are their own civilization in Warhammer fantasy that occupy the neighboring region of Khuresh in the lore.

Laindesh

I disagree its a natural progression.

There's a handful of races they could create from scratch

Jam#4399

I'd rather have CA focus on important races though. Wait for Ogres and Chaos Dwarves first.

I prefer Araby over Ind though but sadly they were cut.

OdTengri#8235

Laindesh said:

I disagree its a natural progression.

There's a handful of races they could create from scratch

Could or should.

Ind, Nippon, Kuresh, and the Hobgoblin Khanate are all ones they could create.

Jathin789

I do not intend this to be a debate stage. if there is inputs to Ind that you know from reading legends/fables/stories from India kindly post it, everything else let CA decide.

Laindesh

OdTengri said:

Laindesh said:

I disagree its a natural progression.

There's a handful of races they could create from scratch

Could or should.

Ind, Nippon, Kuresh, and the Hobgoblin Khanate are all ones they could create.

Could. I don't disagree that ind could be a campaign pack. They are all plausible choices.
I just don't think Ind is any more a natural progression than some of the other races.

Temudhun#3587

jamreal18 said:

I'd rather have CA focus on important races though. Wait for Ogres and Chaos Dwarves first.

I prefer Araby over Ind though but sadly they were cut.

I agree, but I also think it would be a good think if GW (since they are the one working on the lore) start working on this stuff as soon as possible.

OdTengri#8235

Temudhun said:

jamreal18 said:

I'd rather have CA focus on important races though. Wait for Ogres and Chaos Dwarves first.

I prefer Araby over Ind though but sadly they were cut.

I agree, but I also think it would be a good think if GW (since they are the one working on the lore) start working on this stuff as soon as possible.

Yeah that's where I'm at.

SaintCorn#3148

Ind has some lore on Tiger-headed beastmen and Flying Lions.

I don't know how they would relate to India's literary tradition, but they would be likely additions.

The Vyali are an interesting concept. If they're elephant sized, they would make an excellent show-stopper sort of unit. Furthermore, maybe multi-armed figures possibly based off Kali could be a solid damage dealing infantry unit.

Just some cursory ideas about it. Nice post, OP. It's definitely refreshing to see.

xDEMOSx

Speculating something now is very difficult, since everything can suffer retcon, no matter how many arguments try to create everything now boils down to:
GW can create this
We don't know if GW wants to create this.

The speculation topics that flooded the forum for years, checking the veracity of each unit, now no longer make any sense.

What is possible is to make topics of real mythologies, and think if something like that serves as inspiration.

the idea of the author to Ind and very cool, I would like to see something like that in the game.

Jathin789

Vyali The elephant- lion- dragon mythical creature.

Jathin789

Vyali is usually depicted with an elephant. This gives the size perspective of a vyali.

Jathin789

Vyali closeup

Jathin789

I mailed CA and they asked me to make a forum like this. BTW I am new to the forum, so kindly forgive my forum etiquette mistakes.

saweendra#3399

well kingdoms of Ind has one very particular thing TIgermen which has been the only consistent thing mentioned through out all the wh lore , so i kind of want Ind to take this theme and run away with it. adding a vey indian touch to all the big cat units.

Jathin789 said:

Now since Cathay is official in Warhammer 3, Ind is a natural progression. Ind is not much a developed faction in Warhammer universe, besides what ever was developed may have fallen in to some old stereotypes. So in order to give a detailed account of Indian legends myths and history that is loosely what Ind is based up on this forum is created.

A few basic ideas I want to lay out are-

1. When doing kingdoms of Ind kindly read the legends from India like Ramayana and Mahabharata.
2. We want vimanas(flying machines), ape soldiers(vaanar sena), nuke like missiles (brahmastra and other astra), mega giant chariots(search the word juggernaut and it's origin) , vyali( half lion half elephant giant mythical creature), garuda(giant eagle) , nagas (reptilians). etc.

on board with vimana,

naga are there on separate race they have pretty established wh lore and are part of Kuresh which is wh version of indo china pretty evil.
ape men i am on fence on them good chance Cathay gets them with Monkey king however there is lore blurb of 6 armed monkey warriors of Ind.

Jathin789

Giant eagle called Garuda

Jathin789

Garuda more colorful version.

Jathin789

Garuda is the vehicle of vishnu and also an enemy of reptiles(Nagas).

Jathin789

A Naga with his wives.

Jathin789

A female naga.

Jathin789

Naga crawling out of underworld.

Jathin789

saweendra said:

well kingdoms of Ind has one very particular thing TIgermen which has been the only consistent thing mentioned through out all the wh lore , so i kind of want Ind to take this theme and run away with it. adding a vey indian touch to all the big cat units.

Jathin789 said:

Now since Cathay is official in Warhammer 3, Ind is a natural progression. Ind is not much a developed faction in Warhammer universe, besides what ever was developed may have fallen in to some old stereotypes. So in order to give a detailed account of Indian legends myths and history that is loosely what Ind is based up on this forum is created.

A few basic ideas I want to lay out are-

1. When doing kingdoms of Ind kindly read the legends from India like Ramayana and Mahabharata.
2. We want vimanas(flying machines), ape soldiers(vaanar sena), nuke like missiles (brahmastra and other astra), mega giant chariots(search the word juggernaut and it's origin) , vyali( half lion half elephant giant mythical creature), garuda(giant eagle) , nagas (reptilians). etc.

on board with vimana,

naga are there on separate race they have pretty established wh lore and are part of Kuresh which is wh version of indo china pretty evil.
ape men i am on fence on them good chance Cathay gets them with Monkey king however there is lore blurb of 6 armed monkey warriors of Ind.

Historians think china got this monkey warrior idea from Hanuman who is a ape man hero in ramayana.
Nagas also same situation, even the word naga is Sanskrit I think.

Jathin789

SaintCorn said:

Ind has some lore on Tiger-headed beastmen and Flying Lions.

I don't know how they would relate to India's literary tradition, but they would be likely additions.

The Vyali are an interesting concept. If they're elephant sized, they would make an excellent show-stopper sort of unit. Furthermore, maybe multi-armed figures possibly based off Kali could be a solid damage dealing infantry unit.

Just some cursory ideas about it. Nice post, OP. It's definitely refreshing to see.

posted some image of vyali.

Jathin789

Types of Vimanas.

Jam#4399

If Araby can't make it, why shall Ind?

Jathin789

Traditional image of a vimana or a flying machine.

Jathin789

Traditional painting of a vimana and Gods riding it.

saweendra#3399

Jathin789 said:

saweendra said:

well kingdoms of Ind has one very particular thing TIgermen which has been the only consistent thing mentioned through out all the wh lore , so i kind of want Ind to take this theme and run away with it. adding a vey indian touch to all the big cat units.

Jathin789 said:

Now since Cathay is official in Warhammer 3, Ind is a natural progression. Ind is not much a developed faction in Warhammer universe, besides what ever was developed may have fallen in to some old stereotypes. So in order to give a detailed account of Indian legends myths and history that is loosely what Ind is based up on this forum is created.

A few basic ideas I want to lay out are-

1. When doing kingdoms of Ind kindly read the legends from India like Ramayana and Mahabharata.
2. We want vimanas(flying machines), ape soldiers(vaanar sena), nuke like missiles (brahmastra and other astra), mega giant chariots(search the word juggernaut and it's origin) , vyali( half lion half elephant giant mythical creature), garuda(giant eagle) , nagas (reptilians). etc.

on board with vimana,

naga are there on separate race they have pretty established wh lore and are part of Kuresh which is wh version of indo china pretty evil.
ape men i am on fence on them good chance Cathay gets them with Monkey king however there is lore blurb of 6 armed monkey warriors of Ind.

Historians think china got this monkey warrior idea from Hanuman who is a ape man hero in ramayana.
Nagas also same situation, even the word naga is Sanskrit I think.

they are but wh fantsay there is pretty established lore so i doubt they will change it , specially doubt they will remove a entire race or big part of another race to make a way to another race,

what we can do use what we do know about current ind lore in wh and speculate how they can improve on it. if youre curious what lore ind has check out wh wiki on Ind its pretty detailed .

the only thing i know they miss are 6 armed monkey warriors and Winged lions from wh fantay 8 th edition rule book in the wiki
plus its important to have one unified theme and than build on it

Jathin789

Modem rendition of a vimana. People who studied nagara and dravidian architecture know inner sanctum of a hindu temple is also called a vimana so a mix of both ideas I think.

OdTengri#8235

Jathin789 said:

Garuda is the vehicle of vishnu and also an enemy of reptiles(Nagas).

Intresting the Hinterlands of Kuresh are supposed to be ruled by Naga that conduct mass blood sacrifice.

The Naga of Kuresh are in theory based more on the legends of SE Asia than India but it would be interesting if Ind ended up loosely represented by Brama the preserver and the Kureshi Shiva the destroyer and that a rivalry between the two factions could exist on that dichotomy. (Although not being Hindu I'm not sure that even such a rivalry exists and since most Hindu are Shivanist I'm not so sure it would be a good idea)

Still it could be interesting, personally in my headcannon the Snakemen are an off shoot of the Lizardmen guarding the City of the Old Ones and they worship Sotek in a manner similar to the DE worship of Khaine.