Legendary Chaos Invasion and Naggarond

gorgos96#5405

I have been playing with legendary chaos invasion lately and Ive noticed that this leads to the absolute destruction of Naggarond no matter how strong they are. This eventually leads to an order tide where Lothern dominates the new world and theres not much options left to fight during late game if youre playing as an order faciton since Lizardmen have been dominating Lustria as well in every single campaign for a while now. The addition of a hostile to DE wood elf faction in Naggarond doest help either.

I miss the days where my ultimate end game goal was to sail to new world to destroy the evil factions but nowadays I just quit after chaos dies because of these developments.

Have you guys been experiencing this too? What are your opinions on the Naggaroth spawn for chaos?

Pede#6322

Just remove or lower the chaos invasion.

Also i have experinced total DE occupied ulthuan in many of my campaign.

gorgos96#5405

I want to fight against a strong chaos invasion though, it's not a problem. It's just that if I'm not playing as someone in Naggaroth, Naggarond AI simply cant defeat the chaos invasion and dwindles into nothing.

This isn't the case with empire for example. Since when the chaos arrives they usually already confederated the whole empire and defeated vampires they don't have any threats other than chaos so they can efeat them. But Naggarond has to deal with High Elves, Wood Elves etc even at turn 150.

aMint1#4859

gorgos96 said:

I want to fight against a strong chaos invasion though, it's not a problem. It's just that if I'm not playing as someone in Naggaroth, Naggarond AI simply cant defeat the chaos invasion and dwindles into nothing.

This isn't the case with empire for example. Since when the chaos arrives they usually already confederated the whole empire and defeated vampires they don't have any threats other than chaos so they can efeat them. But Naggarond has to deal with High Elves, Wood Elves etc even at turn 150.

Do you want to fight Naggarond or Chaos? Pick one.

Yurisusuki#3719

Yeah, one something curious happened, when the Chaos Invasion Begin the DE started a invasion in Ultuan, they lost all their cities in Naggarond, but conquered all Ulthuan provinces, true end times feeling

PhoenixKingMalekith#5710

Watchtowers will fix this when they come, hopefully.

gorgos96#5405

LordTorquemado said:

Watchtowers will fix this when they come, hopefully.

whats that?

Rutgerhuer

likely temporary until the dark elf towers get added to the map.

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Indeed. The Chaos Invasion in Naggaroth frequently destroys the AI Dark Elves, mainly because the DE armies are focused on invading Ulthuan and cannot respond in time. With the Old World factions many of their armies are close by to fight back against the main invasion force as soon as it appears.

In my personal mod I changed the X/Y coordinates of the Naggaroth invasion armies to spawn in the Chaos Wastes with the main force. Gives the AI Dark Elves some safety and makes things a bit harder for the Empire, Dwarfs, Bretonnia, etc.

Bereaver#4201

Yurisusuki said:

Yeah, one something curious happened, when the Chaos Invasion Begin the DE started a invasion in Ultuan, they lost all their cities in Naggarond, but conquered all Ulthuan provinces, true end times feeling

I've experienced the same in my recent Legendary campaigns. Dark Elves dominated High Elves and took Ulthuan long before Archaon's Invasion.

That means that Chaos Invasion is a doom of Dark Elves only if they do not do good in the first place. Otherwise Dark Elves are not bothered much with loss of Naggarond.

PhoenixKingMalekith#5710

gorgos96 said:

LordTorquemado said:

Watchtowers will fix this when they come, hopefully.

whats that?

A line of defense against Chaos in the north of Naggaroth, in the form of many fortresses. It could be something between Gate Pass and Imperial Fortress.