Poll : Next Historical Total War

greendolphin

Which historical title do you want to be released?


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jamreal18

Please add Mongols

jamreal18

What is the difference between Victorian and Empire 2?

Renaissance is also Pike and Shot, right?

Where are Great Norther War and Thiety Years War?

greendolphin

jamreal18 said:

What is the difference between Victorian and Empire 2?

Renaissance is also Pike and Shot, right?

Where are Great Norther War and Thiety Years War?

Victorian era is 19th century whilst Empire 2 is before that. It might seem the same but there are tons of differences between them.

Also both war of the spanish succession and great northern war are dlc materials for empire 2.

And yes, pike and shot period is in the rennaissance.

jamreal18

I believe Alexanxder and Acahemid Empire also deserve a place instead of Rome 3.

Maxim1lian

Medieval

There was also a vote on Reddit recently. True, there have been similar votes on Reddit before, but this is the most recent:



Many are still waiting for the Medieval. The expectations from the game are too high and the developers understand this. It is possible that even it will be made on a new engine - more historical, without fantasy elements.

There are also people who want the new Medieval to cover all of Eurasia and part of Africa. Yesterday I wrote in Discord about this, why I am against this option:

"Only within the framework of a separate historical game in High and Late Medieval Asia, covering such territories as China, Korea, Japan, India, Mongolia, Siberia, and Southeast Asia, as well as the mountainous regions of Central Asia.

I believe that Asia and Europe should get different games, without merging into a huge map, like in the Wahrammer trilogy. A game about Europe should cover all of Europe, North Africa and Western Asia.

This would allow us to make a large map for each game right away at release. In these games, there would be a large number of regions and provinces, this would contribute to a large number of cities and towns, as well as castles and fortresses. And as a trilogy, one could simply do different campaigns in periods of about 150 years. 1 campaign - 1050-1200 (11-12 centuries)
2 campaign - 1200-1350 (13-14 centuries)
3 campaign - 1350-1500 (14-15 centuries)
This way you can work out each campaign more historical, detailed and deeper. Each period is more accurate historical states, historical events, historical characters, more detailed, detailed and varied military affairs and units (I hope there will be almost no clones of warrior models inside the units, as in the Three Kingdoms), as well as historical architecture"

greendolphin

jamreal18 said:

I believe Alexanxder and Acahemid Empire also deserve a place instead of Rome 3.

Added Alexander too.

jamreal18

@greendolphin I suggest you post this survey on 3K forum section, twcenter, reddit, facebook and reddit as well

jamreal18

@Maxim1lian I prefer Medieval to be made in new engine though

Maybe Chapter Pack will work as High And Late Middle Ages.

Campaign Packs:
Northern Crusade
Holy Land Crusade
100 Years War.

Mongols as Expansion Pack.

Europe and Asia sould have sparate games in my opinion. Sometimes, I want to play Europe Medieval only. Sometimes Genghiz Khan only.

If you own both games, combined maps shall be possible if you want Epic Campaign.

ArneSo

Medieval 3 + Mongols as 2 combined TW games with a giant map from England to Japan.

Maxim1lian

jamreal18 said:

@Maxim1lian I prefer Medieval to be made in new engine though

Maybe Chapter Pack will work as High And Late Middle Ages.

Campaign Packs:
Northern Crusade
Holy Land Crusade
100 Years War.

Mongols as Expansion Pack.

Europe and Asia sould have sparate games in my opinion. Sometimes, I want to play Europe Medieval only. Sometimes Genghiz Khan only.

If you own both games, combined maps shall be possible if you want Epic Campaign.

This is unlikely, since the plan that I described implies support for one of the games for 5 years, like the same Warhammer trilogy. That is, if a separate game in Medieval Asia is released, and in which there will be 3 campaigns - 1 release, and the other 2 will be added within 5 years. Then if the next game in Medieval Europe may be completely different from the point of view of the engine, or its version, as well as more "fresh" visually. I doubt that in this case it will be possible to combine them.

For that separately, these games will be well and deeply worked out. The developer does not have to work on Asia and Europe at once, this will allow to plan and create everything more accurately and orderly

greendolphin

ArneSo said:

Medieval 3 + Mongols as 2 combined TW games with a giant map from England to Japan.

That doesn't seem very possible to me.

ArneSo

greendolphin said:

ArneSo said:

Medieval 3 + Mongols as 2 combined TW games with a giant map from England to Japan.

That doesn't seem very possible to me.

Why?

CA would just have to copy the game concept of TWWH for a historic title.

- Medieval 3: Part 1 = Europe, Middle East and Africa

- Medieval 3: Part 2 = Asia

If you own both games you have a giant combined campaign.
That’s the only way to really represent the Mongol Empire.

Itharus

After WH3 I am probably done with the Total War franchise, as their late historical titles have been fantasy titles anyway.

3K and Troy do not entice me in the least.

However, by halo effect, Thrones of Britannia came out smelling like roses.

greendolphin

ArneSo said:

greendolphin said:

ArneSo said:

Medieval 3 + Mongols as 2 combined TW games with a giant map from England to Japan.

That doesn't seem very possible to me.

Why?

CA would just has to copy the game concept of TWWH for a historic title.

- Medieval 3: Part 1 = Europe, Middle East and Africa

- Medieval 3: Part 2 = Asia

If you own both games you have a giant combined campaign.
That’s the only way to really represent the Mongol Empire.

Asia is too massive that's why.

Ferestor

Empire 2 would be nice.

Give us a bigger map and more factions (Europe was so little...)

And the naval warfare was amazing.

sykall

Age of Discovery Total War or something like this. From 1500 to ca 1700.
This would make a global setting possible, and contain many diverse combat styles, as rank and file gunpowder lines were not used by that point. Also the world is not as euro-dominated as in later century, which would offer vast opportunities for the player.

And when I mean global, I mean global. Not just europe and the middle east, but various american, african and asian civilizations should be playable. And it offers so many opportunities for the player to step in and redirect history for thier choosing.
Do you want to repell the ottomans as the holy league, or dominate europe? Do you want to avoid the 30 years for or make the swedish the new dominant power in central europe? Do you want to rebuild a pseudo-carthage as the north-african barbareskes? Do you wan to defeat the manchurians and save the Ming dynasty and then dominate the seas with your treasure fleets? Or invade japan as korea? Or lead an incan invasion into north america? And drive back the european colonizers into the sea and then follow them home? Or do you want to make Mali the richest country in the world once again? Or or or.

The possibilities of this setting would be great, the factions would be great, the gameplay would be great. But of course some smaller breaks from history would occur at some point. E.g. that an american people would buy or copy european ships to be able to leave the americas. Though these things did happen. E.g. the mapuche were great at using and refining spanish war tactics and administrations and held out against them for centuries.

Maxim1lian

I wrote about voting on Discord

MrDragon

Just to remind everybody (not saying you forgot but just in case) that the fantasy team is not responsible for historical titles and the next historical title is already in production and none of this is related to TWWH3.

So this thread is entirely in the wrong topic.

Amonkhet

No option for skip historical entirely and do the next Fantasy title?

DeadpoolSW

MrDragon said:

Just to remind everybody (not saying you forgot but just in case) that the fantasy team is not responsible for historical titles and the next historical title is already in production and none of this is related to TWWH3.

So this thread is entirely in the wrong topic.

I just popped over to the 3K page, and it's been posted in that topic as well, so they should probably all be merged and moved to off-topic.

Maxim1lian

Also created a topic on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/llqlqg/poll_next_historical_total_war/

Sfigatto16

sykall said:

Age of Discovery Total War or something like this. From 1500 to ca 1700.
This would make a global setting possible, and contain many diverse combat styles, as rank and file gunpowder lines were not used by that point. Also the world is not as euro-dominated as in later century, which would offer vast opportunities for the player.

And when I mean global, I mean global. Not just europe and the middle east, but various american, african and asian civilizations should be playable. And it offers so many opportunities for the player to step in and redirect history for thier choosing.
Do you want to repell the ottomans as the holy league, or dominate europe? Do you want to avoid the 30 years for or make the swedish the new dominant power in central europe? Do you want to rebuild a pseudo-carthage as the north-african barbareskes? Do you wan to defeat the manchurians and save the Ming dynasty and then dominate the seas with your treasure fleets? Or invade japan as korea? Or lead an incan invasion into north america? And drive back the european colonizers into the sea and then follow them home? Or do you want to make Mali the richest country in the world once again? Or or or.

The possibilities of this setting would be great, the factions would be great, the gameplay would be great. But of course some smaller breaks from history would occur at some point. E.g. that an american people would buy or copy european ships to be able to leave the americas. Though these things did happen. E.g. the mapuche were great at using and refining spanish war tactics and administrations and held out against them for centuries.

The game should start before 1453 to be able to play as the East Roman Empire and rebuild the old glory of the Empire.
The wet dream of every TW player.

IagoArmengol

After Warhammer 3, Warhammer Old World.

As for the historical title, the answer is clear: Medieval III.

ArneSo

greendolphin said:

ArneSo said:

greendolphin said:

ArneSo said:

Medieval 3 + Mongols as 2 combined TW games with a giant map from England to Japan.

That doesn't seem very possible to me.

Why?

CA would just has to copy the game concept of TWWH for a historic title.

- Medieval 3: Part 1 = Europe, Middle East and Africa

- Medieval 3: Part 2 = Asia

If you own both games you have a giant combined campaign.
That’s the only way to really represent the Mongol Empire.

Asia is too massive that's why.

How?

greendolphin

sykall said:

Age of Discovery Total War or something like this. From 1500 to ca 1700.
This would make a global setting possible, and contain many diverse combat styles, as rank and file gunpowder lines were not used by that point. Also the world is not as euro-dominated as in later century, which would offer vast opportunities for the player.

And when I mean global, I mean global. Not just europe and the middle east, but various american, african and asian civilizations should be playable. And it offers so many opportunities for the player to step in and redirect history for thier choosing.
Do you want to repell the ottomans as the holy league, or dominate europe? Do you want to avoid the 30 years for or make the swedish the new dominant power in central europe? Do you want to rebuild a pseudo-carthage as the north-african barbareskes? Do you wan to defeat the manchurians and save the Ming dynasty and then dominate the seas with your treasure fleets? Or invade japan as korea? Or lead an incan invasion into north america? And drive back the european colonizers into the sea and then follow them home? Or do you want to make Mali the richest country in the world once again? Or or or.

The possibilities of this setting would be great, the factions would be great, the gameplay would be great. But of course some smaller breaks from history would occur at some point. E.g. that an american people would buy or copy european ships to be able to leave the americas. Though these things did happen. E.g. the mapuche were great at using and refining spanish war tactics and administrations and held out against them for centuries.

Sfigatto16 said:

sykall said:

Age of Discovery Total War or something like this. From 1500 to ca 1700.
This would make a global setting possible, and contain many diverse combat styles, as rank and file gunpowder lines were not used by that point. Also the world is not as euro-dominated as in later century, which would offer vast opportunities for the player.

And when I mean global, I mean global. Not just europe and the middle east, but various american, african and asian civilizations should be playable. And it offers so many opportunities for the player to step in and redirect history for thier choosing.
Do you want to repell the ottomans as the holy league, or dominate europe? Do you want to avoid the 30 years for or make the swedish the new dominant power in central europe? Do you want to rebuild a pseudo-carthage as the north-african barbareskes? Do you wan to defeat the manchurians and save the Ming dynasty and then dominate the seas with your treasure fleets? Or invade japan as korea? Or lead an incan invasion into north america? And drive back the european colonizers into the sea and then follow them home? Or do you want to make Mali the richest country in the world once again? Or or or.

The possibilities of this setting would be great, the factions would be great, the gameplay would be great. But of course some smaller breaks from history would occur at some point. E.g. that an american people would buy or copy european ships to be able to leave the americas. Though these things did happen. E.g. the mapuche were great at using and refining spanish war tactics and administrations and held out against them for centuries.

The game should start before 1453 to be able to play as the East Roman Empire and rebuild the old glory of the Empire.
The wet dream of every TW player.

Invention of printing press in 1436 is a good starting date for rennaissance/age of discovery i believe.

Although Eastern Roman Empire only consists of Constantinople back then as well, it can be a fun challenge don't you think?

ASyrian

greendolphin said:

Which historical title do you want to be released after this point?

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Warhammer 40k ofc

ArneSo

@greendolphin
It clearly wouldn’t be to big if CA splits the map in 2 different games with 1 combined map.

Medieval 3 Part 1:



Medieval 3 Part 2:



Combined Campaign a-la Mortal Empires:

Dendrofiel

This vote is rigged. Strawpoll is Venezuelan website and the results are fake. I have it on good authority that Empre 2 is way more popular.

They are just trying to subverse our wishes to create a process of demorilisation. So eventually we can only play Ultimate General and Admiral... These Bannerlord Timmy's are trying to steal our beloved CA. So they can make their Bourgois propaganda and avoid showing revolutionaire images...

TheGreatPamphlet

None. Historical TW is probably dead for the foreseeable future. The only historical TW I can see is maybe an expansion for 3K, something like the Warring States.

shatti

i want a world like mount and blade
historical cultures but set in a hypothetical world
heavy focus in cultures and freedom to not follow historical lands ownership or historical names
basically A isn't restricted to be A anymore
........and B isn't restricted to be B anymore
but realism & cultures exist

and i want this settings because i could see a huge potential in it with unlimited flexibility
but maybe i'm crazy because i love real history to