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IF that's the case, I would buy it as I'd buy any TWW DLC (except a naval battle one). That said, I'd be disappointed as: a) Dwarfs won't get a rework with it. b) I kinda want a Khaine-themed DE DLC now.
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Yes. I know Beastmen are long overdue, but Dwarfs have so much more to offer that interests me and are almost as neglected as the Beastmen.
The list below includes some potential things in that hypothetical DLC, in order of what would most motivate me to buy it.
For Dwarfs: -Thunderbarges (this would be an insta-buy) -Rune Guardians -Rune Collared Shard Dragons -Malakai Makaisson -Rune Golem (I'd be satisfied getting just the Guardians, but I wouldn't say no to both)
(Personally, I couldn't care less about getting Slayer variants and will be greatly disappointed if a Dwarf DLC only comes with even more infantry and maybe an artillery piece like the Goblin Hewer and that's it)
For Beastmen: -Taurox -Doombulls -Jabberslythe -Ghorgon
(I'm less interested in the Beastmen, but I'd be happy to get a few more big monsters, and of course being able to finally have an all minotaur army)
There would be no point as it would mean Dwarfs wouldn't get an update
Dwarfs have already been reworked. Or so CA says heh
They never said they were done, though.
I don't think Dwarfs are likely for this one, don't get me wrong. But I don't think CA would see them being on par with Empire/Greenskins/Wood Elves.
Was kidding as I know their rework was a bad joke. Still they should wait till warhammer 3 just for the sake of getting matched vs chaos dwarves LP
Chaos Dwarfs will probably not even get a LP if they're a game 3 campaign pack.
So, dwarfs definitely will be coupled with someone else. Also, the Chaos Dwarf vs. Dwarf rivalry has never been really explored that much. There's a vendetta, sure. But actual conflicts? Barely.
There would be no point as it would mean Dwarfs wouldn't get an update
Exactly. That’s why WH1 vs WH1 is a bad idea.
Not necessarily, Beastmen vs Empire/Bretonnia would be great- IF they hadn't recently said they didn't like doing game 1 vs game DLCs.
that is just one dev, but it brets are currently off table , if its gonna be any game 1 race empire make sense
Why Empire? To me, if not beastmen then it's vamps.
i mean emp vs BM
I'd still go for BM vs vamps. I'm stealing the reasoning from the Great Book of Grudges: adding Silver Pinacle in last patch doesn't make sense unless they're putting someone there before they're done with the game and if next dlc is last, then I thnk that Khalida will be able to get that head that she fancies so much.
There would be no point as it would mean Dwarfs wouldn't get an update
Dwarfs have already been reworked. Or so CA says heh
They never said they were done, though.
I don't think Dwarfs are likely for this one, don't get me wrong. But I don't think CA would see them being on par with Empire/Greenskins/Wood Elves.
Was kidding as I know their rework was a bad joke. Still they should wait till warhammer 3 just for the sake of getting matched vs chaos dwarves LP
Chaos Dwarfs will probably not even get a LP if they're a game 3 campaign pack.
So, dwarfs definitely will be coupled with someone else. Also, the Chaos Dwarf vs. Dwarf rivalry has never been really explored that much. There's a vendetta, sure. But actual conflicts? Barely.
I really wanted a Chorfs vs Dwarfs LP but it’s pretty much off the table.
There would be no point as it would mean Dwarfs wouldn't get an update
Exactly. That’s why WH1 vs WH1 is a bad idea.
Not necessarily, Beastmen vs Empire/Bretonnia would be great- IF they hadn't recently said they didn't like doing game 1 vs game DLCs.
that is just one dev, but it brets are currently off table , if its gonna be any game 1 race empire make sense
Why Empire? To me, if not beastmen then it's vamps.
i mean emp vs BM
I'd still go for BM vs vamps. I'm stealing the reasoning from the Great Book of Grudges: adding Silver Pinacle in last patch doesn't make sense unless they're putting someone there before they're done with the game and if next dlc is last...
There would be no point as it would mean Dwarfs wouldn't get an update
Exactly. That’s why WH1 vs WH1 is a bad idea.
Not necessarily, Beastmen vs Empire/Bretonnia would be great- IF they hadn't recently said they didn't like doing game 1 vs game DLCs.
that is just one dev, but it brets are currently off table , if its gonna be any game 1 race empire make sense
Why Empire? To me, if not beastmen then it's vamps.
i mean emp vs BM
I'd still go for BM vs vamps. I'm stealing the reasoning from the Great Book of Grudges: adding Silver Pinacle in last patch doesn't make sense unless they're putting someone there before they're done with the game and if next dlc is last...
neffy vs Bm don't really make sense .
If CA were going for loreful confrontations then sure, but we got Empire vs Lizardmen, WE vs Skaven and DE vs Skaven when the most loreful combinations would have been Lizardmen vs DE, Skaven vs Empire or WE vs DE or bring the dwarfs to game 2 paired against skaven, so at this point I wouldn't use lore as a hint for what's next.
I would preorder it immediately if dwarfs are in it, which doesnt say much, because regardless what it is I will buy the DLC anyway since I found all the latest DLC to be very good (and I crave for more TW:W content). But with dwarfs in it I will buy it a second faster :-)
As some other posters said I would be a little disappointed though, because the lion share of the DLC would and should go to the BM. So it would make more sense to add to the BM DLC a race from WH2 which is nearly finished and can have a little bit less on the charlemagne side.
As I said in some of my last posts, I hope a Dwarf DLC is coming but I hope it will be in WH3 with cool new stuff and new starting position in WH3. I expected a CDwarfs vs Dwarfs DLC but since the CDwarfs will be a campaign pack and if ever a DLC is coming for them it will be at the end of the WH3 life cycle, it will be interesting against which Chaos god they will get their DLC together.
There would be no point as it would mean Dwarfs wouldn't get an update
Exactly. That’s why WH1 vs WH1 is a bad idea.
Not necessarily, Beastmen vs Empire/Bretonnia would be great- IF they hadn't recently said they didn't like doing game 1 vs game DLCs.
that is just one dev, but it brets are currently off table , if its gonna be any game 1 race empire make sense
Why Empire? To me, if not beastmen then it's vamps.
i mean emp vs BM
I'd still go for BM vs vamps. I'm stealing the reasoning from the Great Book of Grudges: adding Silver Pinacle in last patch doesn't make sense unless they're putting someone there before they're done with the game and if next dlc is last...
neffy vs Bm don't really make sense .
„Neffy wants to consume Moonclaw to get supreme control over Morslieb“
Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
She would probably get things worse than herpes if she tried.
It won’t be a WH1 only pack. CA was pretty clear about it.
That being said, I’ll buy whatever CA throws at me as long as it’s not an Elf vs Elf DLC. I like both BM and Dwarfs and both races have tons of content left.
is this a definitive statement?
Is there anything definitive when it comes to CA statements?
If the new DLC unlocked Beastmen as playable and had substantially reworked horde mechanics I would consider it but I can't envision 2 WH1 races being sold as DLC for WH2, especially it they unlocked both races in ME making Beastmen DLC and possibly even WH1 irrelevant if someone was interested only in the Dwarfs.
I could see Beastmen being part of a DLC that unlocked them in WH2 and ME because they are the least popular race DLC so far as I know and any substantial rework largely invalidates the WH1 Beastmen DLC aside from the special Middenheim campaign map.
More likely will be DE vs Norsca simply due to how easy it would be to release needed Lords for both without giving away too much about WH3 or substantially reworking horde mechanics or other things and both are technically WH2 races.
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I’d buy it regardless. I’d be bummed by a Dwarf LL arriving before TWW3 because that would mean playing it on the Vortex map and not a brand spanking new and more interesting map.
If I got to choose I’d not have one more LP in TWW2 but I’d take Beastmen vs Delfs. Beastmen just need an update and I don’t give two tosses about any more Elfs whatever their persuasion. So if they are included now there’s no lost potential.
Lord of the Undermountain and your friendly neighbourhood giant (Dwarf)
I would certainly be motivated to buy it- granted, I've bought all DLC because I like the variety, but I do find Dwarfs a bit cooler (and more in need of content) than DE. That being said, CA saying that all DLC must feature a game 2 half aside, I can also see how BM vs DE could be more beneficial to Beastmen in terms of budget.
Ignoring the fact that it won't happen due to the WH2 core race rule, I can still imagine the basic outline and draw conclusions:
Dwarfs: Two possibilities, same position. Its either Thorek Ironbrow or Sven Hasselfriesian who has come to Lustria to wreak even more havoc than that poor continent already did not deserve. Likely a rune/engineering focus in the mechanics, but imagining mechanics is not my specialty. Additions to the roster include the Guildmaster Engineer Lord or a reworked Runelord and then Shieldbreakers, Rune Golems/Guardians, Shard Dragons and probably something else. I will buy it for the big monsters.
Beastmen: Either Taurox or Moonclaw is attacking the Dwarfs for XXXXXXX REASONS and are placed most likely in northwest Naggaroth with reworked horde mechanics, the whole point of the DLC. If its Moonclaw, then he brings Great Bray Shamans, Preytons, Wargors, God-marked Gors and perhaps the Jabberslythe. If its Taurox, then its the Doombull, Wargor, Bovigors, Ghorgons and Tuskgors + Chariots. I will buy the DLC for the horde rework, Taurox and a full Minotaur roster.
Dark Elves: FLC means no more content for them, which wouldn't be a huge loss. I wish the lord to be Tullaris Dreadbringer stationed in northern Ulthuan, but will accept Kouran as well.
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a) Dwarfs won't get a rework with it.
b) I kinda want a Khaine-themed DE DLC now.
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3 · Disagree AgreeThe list below includes some potential things in that hypothetical DLC, in order of what would most motivate me to buy it.
For Dwarfs:
-Thunderbarges (this would be an insta-buy)
-Rune Guardians
-Rune Collared Shard Dragons
-Malakai Makaisson
-Rune Golem (I'd be satisfied getting just the Guardians, but I wouldn't say no to both)
(Personally, I couldn't care less about getting Slayer variants and will be greatly disappointed if a Dwarf DLC only comes with even more infantry and maybe an artillery piece like the Goblin Hewer and that's it)
For Beastmen:
-Taurox
-Doombulls
-Jabberslythe
-Ghorgon
(I'm less interested in the Beastmen, but I'd be happy to get a few more big monsters, and of course being able to finally have an all minotaur army)
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0 · Disagree AgreeSo, dwarfs definitely will be coupled with someone else. Also, the Chaos Dwarf vs. Dwarf rivalry has never been really explored that much. There's a vendetta, sure. But actual conflicts? Barely.
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4 · Disagree AgreeAs some other posters said I would be a little disappointed though, because the lion share of the DLC would and should go to the BM. So it would make more sense to add to the BM DLC a race from WH2 which is nearly finished and can have a little bit less on the charlemagne side.
As I said in some of my last posts, I hope a Dwarf DLC is coming but I hope it will be in WH3 with cool new stuff and new starting position in WH3. I expected a CDwarfs vs Dwarfs DLC but since the CDwarfs will be a campaign pack and if ever a DLC is coming for them it will be at the end of the WH3 life cycle, it will be interesting against which Chaos god they will get their DLC together.
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1 · Disagree AgreeI could see Beastmen being part of a DLC that unlocked them in WH2 and ME because they are the least popular race DLC so far as I know and any substantial rework largely invalidates the WH1 Beastmen DLC aside from the special Middenheim campaign map.
More likely will be DE vs Norsca simply due to how easy it would be to release needed Lords for both without giving away too much about WH3 or substantially reworking horde mechanics or other things and both are technically WH2 races.
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0 · Disagree AgreeIf I got to choose I’d not have one more LP in TWW2 but I’d take Beastmen vs Delfs. Beastmen just need an update and I don’t give two tosses about any more Elfs whatever their persuasion. So if they are included now there’s no lost potential.
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0 · Disagree AgreeThe other needs an Empire-tier rework.
Highly unlikely. But if they could pull it off, which they can't, I'd love it.
Because there's nothing left of value left besides a Black Ark Fleetmaster.
Because with the exception of skaven, all game 2 had 2 dlc and 2 FLC. DE only have 1 FLC
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Because BM needs a rework with their DLC and a FLC LL too.
And the same for the Dwarfs (DLC with a true rework and a FLC LL).
So if we end up with Dwarfs vs BM (or 2 WH1 races, like VC vs Dwarfs for instance) each race will loose something.
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0 · Disagree AgreeDwarfs:
Two possibilities, same position. Its either Thorek Ironbrow or Sven Hasselfriesian who has come to Lustria to wreak even more havoc than that poor continent already did not deserve. Likely a rune/engineering focus in the mechanics, but imagining mechanics is not my specialty. Additions to the roster include the Guildmaster Engineer Lord or a reworked Runelord and then Shieldbreakers, Rune Golems/Guardians, Shard Dragons and probably something else. I will buy it for the big monsters.
Beastmen:
Either Taurox or Moonclaw is attacking the Dwarfs for XXXXXXX REASONS and are placed most likely in northwest Naggaroth with reworked horde mechanics, the whole point of the DLC. If its Moonclaw, then he brings Great Bray Shamans, Preytons, Wargors, God-marked Gors and perhaps the Jabberslythe. If its Taurox, then its the Doombull, Wargor, Bovigors, Ghorgons and Tuskgors + Chariots. I will buy the DLC for the horde rework, Taurox and a full Minotaur roster.
Dark Elves:
FLC means no more content for them, which wouldn't be a huge loss. I wish the lord to be Tullaris Dreadbringer stationed in northern Ulthuan, but will accept Kouran as well.
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