Will the last DLC close out the Vortex story?

MLDAV

With TWWH2 coming to and end I wonder if the last DLC might have an important narrative component to close out the vortex story and set up 3. Each of the LLs have had essentially self-contained stories that aren't ongoing cannon for the whole game (e.g. Ariel isn't out of the game just because in Throt's story he eats her).

It would be really interesting if the last DLC has something that actually does become cannon and leads into the opening story for 3. Maybe one of the LLs will blow up the vortex and that's what allows Chaos to invade in the next one.


(This was inspired by a comment about how one of the potential BM LLs is trying to destroy the vortex's waystones)

CaesarSahlertz

I am fairly certain that the common denominator in many of the campaigns is the eventual release of N'kari and the hinting at the resurrection of Nagash.

Prince_Alucard

I've been thinking that with Tetto'Ekko potential lord, after defeating beastmen he could foresee the next threat of a daemonic invasion. Likewise if you win with BM, you are paving the way for the next wave of chaos.


I don't think anything like the vortex actually blowing up will happen, but I can certainly see chaos's arrival being foreshadowed. WH2/3 still seem to take place at roughly the same time.

RikRiorik#9890

I once felt that there was a distinct possibility that the last DLC would set up the coming of the Daemons in TWW3 with the last DLC containing the Warriors of Chaos claiming some control over the Vortex.

I think it might still be a thing but just maybe not with the Warriors of Chaos being the last DLC.

brago90#3911

Prince_Alucard said:

I've been thinking that with Tetto'Ekko potential lord, after defeating beastmen he could foresee the next threat of a daemonic invasion. Likewise if you win with BM, you are paving the way for the next wave of chaos.


I don't think anything like the vortex actually blowing up will happen, but I can certainly see chaos's arrival being foreshadowed. WH2/3 still seem to take place at roughly the same time.

I do believe that the Vortex in TW: Warhammer 3 will no longer exist but I don't think CA will sink Ulthuan. Although preventing the collapse of Ulthuan could become one of the high elves' mechanics...

CaesarSahlertz

brago90 said:

Prince_Alucard said:

I've been thinking that with Tetto'Ekko potential lord, after defeating beastmen he could foresee the next threat of a daemonic invasion. Likewise if you win with BM, you are paving the way for the next wave of chaos.


I don't think anything like the vortex actually blowing up will happen, but I can certainly see chaos's arrival being foreshadowed. WH2/3 still seem to take place at roughly the same time.

I do believe that the Vortex in TW: Warhammer 3 will no longer exist but I don't think CA will sink Ulthuan. Although preventing the collapse of Ulthuan could become one of the high elves' mechanics...

If the Vortex didn't exist any more, then the entire Warhammer World wouldn't exist any more...

RamsesIII#4621

I'm not expecting this lord pack to give a "game-canon" conclusion to the events of the race for the Vortex. There might be a hint or two to the third game though.

Game 1 and 2's campaigns don't go one after the other (at least not consequentially) and considering "the End Times" started with the game 1 chaos invasion, I'm expecting the game 3 events to happen in parallel, albeit expanding on the game 1 events.

kabulk#6557

The last DLC included an upcoming slanesh chaos invasion in Nagaroth...

They might continue in that direction with the next dlc and maybe thats why we had the day twelve picture of Nagaroth desolated.

brago90#3911

CaesarSahlertz said:

brago90 said:

Prince_Alucard said:

I've been thinking that with Tetto'Ekko potential lord, after defeating beastmen he could foresee the next threat of a daemonic invasion. Likewise if you win with BM, you are paving the way for the next wave of chaos.


I don't think anything like the vortex actually blowing up will happen, but I can certainly see chaos's arrival being foreshadowed. WH2/3 still seem to take place at roughly the same time.

I do believe that the Vortex in TW: Warhammer 3 will no longer exist but I don't think CA will sink Ulthuan. Although preventing the collapse of Ulthuan could become one of the high elves' mechanics...

If the Vortex didn't exist any more, then the entire Warhammer World wouldn't exist any more...

... For the daemons to materialize in the world, the vortex needs to disappear ...

ASyrian#2378

MLDAV said:

With TWWH2 coming to and end I wonder if the last DLC might have an important narrative component to close out the vortex story and set up 3. Each of the LLs have had essentially self-contained stories that aren't ongoing cannon for the whole game (e.g. Ariel isn't out of the game just because in Throt's story he eats her).

It would be really interesting if the last DLC has something that actually does become cannon and leads into the opening story for 3. Maybe one of the LLs will blow up the vortex and that's what allows Chaos to invade in the next one.


(This was inspired by a comment about how one of the potential BM LLs is trying to destroy the vortex's waystones)

Chaos would wash the world away it the vortex blows up. The campaign will happen simultaneously as all other campaigns.
Thats why chaos demons will have 5 armies instead of 99999.

CaesarSahlertz

brago90 said:

CaesarSahlertz said:

brago90 said:

Prince_Alucard said:

I've been thinking that with Tetto'Ekko potential lord, after defeating beastmen he could foresee the next threat of a daemonic invasion. Likewise if you win with BM, you are paving the way for the next wave of chaos.


I don't think anything like the vortex actually blowing up will happen, but I can certainly see chaos's arrival being foreshadowed. WH2/3 still seem to take place at roughly the same time.

I do believe that the Vortex in TW: Warhammer 3 will no longer exist but I don't think CA will sink Ulthuan. Although preventing the collapse of Ulthuan could become one of the high elves' mechanics...

If the Vortex didn't exist any more, then the entire Warhammer World wouldn't exist any more...

... For the daemons to materialize in the world, the vortex needs to disappear ...

No it doesn't? The Daemons constantly materialise in the Warhammer World despite the presence of the Vortex... They can't permanently roam the world, which is a good thing, since if they did they would destroy all the world. Hence the fact, that if the Vortex disappeared then the entire world would disappear with it.

Prince_Alucard

brago90 said:

CaesarSahlertz said:

brago90 said:

Prince_Alucard said:

I've been thinking that with Tetto'Ekko potential lord, after defeating beastmen he could foresee the next threat of a daemonic invasion. Likewise if you win with BM, you are paving the way for the next wave of chaos.


I don't think anything like the vortex actually blowing up will happen, but I can certainly see chaos's arrival being foreshadowed. WH2/3 still seem to take place at roughly the same time.

I do believe that the Vortex in TW: Warhammer 3 will no longer exist but I don't think CA will sink Ulthuan. Although preventing the collapse of Ulthuan could become one of the high elves' mechanics...

If the Vortex didn't exist any more, then the entire Warhammer World wouldn't exist any more...

... For the daemons to materialize in the world, the vortex needs to disappear ...

They can and did up until the vortex was destroyed at the very last minute in the end times. Otherwise you'd never have seen any daemon models at all. They're just more limited than they otherwise would be.

MLDAV

I didn't necessarily mean actually blowing up the vortex. Just something to do with messing it about enough that it lets the demons in for twww3.

MLDAV

cabans33 said:

The last DLC included an upcoming slanesh chaos invasion in Nagaroth...

It did?

John_Kimble#3765

If i'm not mistaken, CA has said that game 3 won't be a "sequel" story wise, but will be concurrent to the Vortex race, just like with game 1's Chaos invasion.
If this is true, whatever happens at the end of game 2, would be happening at a later time compared to game 3's "start date".
A conclusion would make sense, but i'm not too sure about it at this point.

Reeks#2417

I was certain that N'Kari was going to be the pre-order to end the pesky pee smelling knife-ears on that donut of theirs, then CA threw a curveball with game 3 lineup and now i just dont know tbh

kabulk#6557

MLDAV said:

cabans33 said:

The last DLC included an upcoming slanesh chaos invasion in Nagaroth...

It did?

Yes, thats why Ariel send the sisters to Nagaroth, because a Chaos Portal is about to open there. The story is all about closing the chaos portal

Iron_Crown#5779

Narrative? The game does not have any narrative, just a setting. Those are different things. A narrative means there is a story with actual developments that influence what happens in the game. That does not exist. Every text in the game is just flavor that you can click away unread without missing anything. And the cut scenes, to the extent they exist at all, are played always in the same sequence no matter what you do, and also don't influence anything. It's a shame because a real narrative could add a lot to the game.