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Give Morathi access to Arnzipal's Black Horror

TheGuardianOfMetal#3661TheGuardianOfMetal#3661 Registered Users Posts: 14,701
edited August 2022 in Warhammer Campaign Feedback
with the newest changelog, the generic Supreme Sorceress gets access to a skill that gives her the Dark Magic Spell "Arnzipal's Black Horror" (that Smoke monster wind spell thing). Before, it was only available as a casting item.



Now, that means there is a Dark Magic spell that your generic Caster Lord has access too, that Morathi the Mother of the Druchii and CREATOR of Dark Magic CAN'T USE.

I personally would've prefered to have Morathi get Arnzipal's as unique spell to be the "Counterpart" to Teclis Phoenix spell. But since the normal SS now gets access to it, i think Morathi should also get access to it. Be it as boundspell (upgradeable?) from the beginning or via Spell.

It's Dark Magic and Morathi CREATED Dark Magic.

I personally would even say, that all "primary" Caster LLs (or Caster LLs that are renowned for their mastery of Magic) should have at least one unique spell.

Khatep, Manfred, Kemmler, Gelt, Morathi, Wurrzag, Fay Enchantress...
The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
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  • UberReptilian#8431UberReptilian#8431 Registered Users Posts: 5,487
    HI OP! I agree, but what would you say to the idea Morathi is a hybrid caster and not a true one?
  • IamNotArobot#8850IamNotArobot#8850 Registered Users Posts: 5,758
    @CA_Danial @CA_Duck @CA_James This is actually a very good and easy fix we can make! :smile:

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  • MaelasMaelas Registered Users Posts: 5,180
    Honestly, I'm happy enough to have it at all for Dark Elves, it's the coolest looking spell in the game !

    As for Morathi, I'd love to see her have it, but she already have 6 spells, and she have this mix of Dhar, Shadow and Death, I don't know how you could add the Black Horror
  • TheGuardianOfMetal#3661TheGuardianOfMetal#3661 Registered Users Posts: 14,701
    edited March 2021
    Maelas said:

    Honestly, I'm happy enough to have it at all for Dark Elves, it's the coolest looking spell in the game !

    As for Morathi, I'd love to see her have it, but she already have 6 spells, and she have this mix of Dhar, Shadow and Death, I don't know how you could add the Black Horror

    So do Mazdamundi and Teclis. Yet they have Ruination of cities and the Phoenix Spell thing... bound spells are a thing. Especially if they make it upgradeable via skills.
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • manpersal#3961manpersal#3961 Registered Users Posts: 3,523
  • Canuovea#6291Canuovea#6291 Registered Users, Moderators, Knights Posts: 15,974
    It makes some sense to give Morathi a bound usage of Anzirpals given the Supreme Sorceress gets it.

    But it really makes sense to give the Supreme Sorceress Anzirpals in the first place.

    Archmages get a bound spell: Chain Lightning.

    Spellweavers get a bound spell: Dwellers Below.

    The Supreme Sorceress was horribly lacking in anything interesting. This works very well to bring Dark Elf Caster Lords to the same level as the other Elves.
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  • TheGuardianOfMetal#3661TheGuardianOfMetal#3661 Registered Users Posts: 14,701
    Canuovea said:

    It makes some sense to give Morathi a bound usage of Anzirpals given the Supreme Sorceress gets it.

    But it really makes sense to give the Supreme Sorceress Anzirpals in the first place.

    Archmages get a bound spell: Chain Lightning.

    Spellweavers get a bound spell: Dwellers Below.

    The Supreme Sorceress was horribly lacking in anything interesting. This works very well to bring Dark Elf Caster Lords to the same level as the other Elves.

    Teclis gets a Bound Spell Fireball upgradeable to the Phoenix thing.

    So... going with "putting it on the same level" applies with Morathi as well.
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • IamNotArobot#8850IamNotArobot#8850 Registered Users Posts: 5,758
    CA , you have one day do you think you can, if we do it right now we won’t need to wait for a hotfix ! 🦾 is it just a couple of clicks then update build then release on steam? This is something loremaster of sotek should have told you when testing the changes, dissapointing.
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    *Ogre Kingdoms core race or death!
    *Bring back settlement conquering artworks!
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  • IamNotArobot#8850IamNotArobot#8850 Registered Users Posts: 5,758
    OP , maybe this should go
    on general since not so many are reading it here.
    *Justice, cats and CONFEDERATION ENABLED for the Tomb Kings and Vampire Coast! feat mummies and Apophas.
    *Exclusive DLCs for Tomb Kings, Vampire Coast, BM, CW and WE! #DLCsAreRacesToo
    *Remaster all WH1 and WH2 faction icons for WH3!
    *Ogre Kingdoms core race or death!
    *Bring back settlement conquering artworks!
    *Gnoblar Carpet for Greesus
    *Improve UI


  • polyergus#5313polyergus#5313 Registered Users Posts: 35
    It would be nice, but on campaign, unless you are using a mod that allows your lords to go higher than level 40, morathis skill tree is over saturated with worthwhile skills already, so her missing something isn't the biggest deal. Still, as OP pointed out, it does make a lot of sense to make her magic wise capable of anything a generic sumpreme sorceress of dark magic can do.
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