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Personally I don't think they're going to give the Monos the same number of LPs as the others. Even if they do I don't think they're likely to do evil vs evil, especially when they're so similar, which Monogods undeniably are very similar. There's also the popularity factor. From everything we know about the data in TWW1 and TWW2 Monos are unlikely to be particularly popular, this could be countered by a fanbase that's more likely to buy DLCs but it is a factor.
That said regardless of who gets how many LPs I think Chaos vs Chaos is unlikely. Though on a personal level I'd be cool with it.
They are core races so they will obviously get a minimum of 2 LPs. Nurgle most likely even 3.
We simply don't know that. We've never had cores with 1 LL each before. There's no precedent.
We also never had 6 core races so the actual numbers of LLs is irrelevant. By CAs own description we know that they will be fully unique and diverse core races.
I think the 1 LL for each MonoGod was more to balance the Good vs Evil number of LL, if they had given 2 to each MonoGod from the start we would have had 8 evil or even 9 if Be'lakaor is the 9th LL vs 4 good.
Yeah that’s what I think too. Another reason is probably that 8-9 factions is what they are always aiming for in TW games. This time they just decided to add more races in exchange for playable factions per race at launch. In the end, it just gives them more options for LPs.
Personally I don't think they're going to give the Monos the same number of LPs as the others. Even if they do I don't think they're likely to do evil vs evil, especially when they're so similar, which Monogods undeniably are very similar. There's also the popularity factor. From everything we know about the data in TWW1 and TWW2 Monos are unlikely to be particularly popular, this could be countered by a fanbase that's more likely to buy DLCs but it is a factor.
That said regardless of who gets how many LPs I think Chaos vs Chaos is unlikely. Though on a personal level I'd be cool with it.
They are core races so they will obviously get a minimum of 2 LPs. Nurgle most likely even 3.
We simply don't know that. We've never had cores with 1 LL each before. There's no precedent.
We also never had 6 core races so the actual numbers of LLs is irrelevant. By CAs own description we know that they will be fully unique and diverse core races.
So you agree with me then. We simply don't know how CA will treat core races with 1 LL. It's reasonable to speculate that could mean less LPs.
Also I've very clearly never denied that they'll be fully unique core races. Please stick to responding to what I've said.
No. Read the blog and the interviews. We know that they will be fully unique Core Races.
Nobody is denying their core status.
But core status has no bearing on the amount of subsequent DLC, though. *Coughs in Empire and other WH1 races*
At the end of the day, source-material is key. Whether it's new or old sources.
Personally I don't think they're going to give the Monos the same number of LPs as the others. Even if they do I don't think they're likely to do evil vs evil, especially when they're so similar, which Monogods undeniably are very similar. There's also the popularity factor. From everything we know about the data in TWW1 and TWW2 Monos are unlikely to be particularly popular, this could be countered by a fanbase that's more likely to buy DLCs but it is a factor.
That said regardless of who gets how many LPs I think Chaos vs Chaos is unlikely. Though on a personal level I'd be cool with it.
They are core races so they will obviously get a minimum of 2 LPs. Nurgle most likely even 3.
We simply don't know that. We've never had cores with 1 LL each before. There's no precedent.
We also never had 6 core races so the actual numbers of LLs is irrelevant. By CAs own description we know that they will be fully unique and diverse core races.
So you agree with me then. We simply don't know how CA will treat core races with 1 LL. It's reasonable to speculate that could mean less LPs.
Also I've very clearly never denied that they'll be fully unique core races. Please stick to responding to what I've said.
No. Read the blog and the interviews. We know that they will be fully unique Core Races.
Nobody is denying their core status.
But core status has no bearing on the amount of subsequent DLC, though. *Coughs in Empire and other WH1 races*
At the end of the day, source-material is key. Whether it's new or old sources.
They will be fully fleshed and distinctive races on par with Skaven, LM, Dwarfs and so on.
Source material is irrelevant at this point since GW can always invent stuff.
Even without inventing things, the rosters are already big enough.
Khorne:
Legendary Lords: - Skarbrand - Skulltaker - Valkia the Bloody - Skarr Bloodwrath - Arbaal the Undefeated - Egil Styrbjorn
Legendary Heroes: - Scyla Anfingrimm - Karanak
Lord: - Lord of Khorne - Slaughterpriest - Bloodthirster - Daemon Prince of Khorne
Personally I don't think they're going to give the Monos the same number of LPs as the others. Even if they do I don't think they're likely to do evil vs evil, especially when they're so similar, which Monogods undeniably are very similar. There's also the popularity factor. From everything we know about the data in TWW1 and TWW2 Monos are unlikely to be particularly popular, this could be countered by a fanbase that's more likely to buy DLCs but it is a factor.
That said regardless of who gets how many LPs I think Chaos vs Chaos is unlikely. Though on a personal level I'd be cool with it.
They are core races so they will obviously get a minimum of 2 LPs. Nurgle most likely even 3.
We simply don't know that. We've never had cores with 1 LL each before. There's no precedent.
We also never had 6 core races so the actual numbers of LLs is irrelevant. By CAs own description we know that they will be fully unique and diverse core races.
So you agree with me then. We simply don't know how CA will treat core races with 1 LL. It's reasonable to speculate that could mean less LPs.
Also I've very clearly never denied that they'll be fully unique core races. Please stick to responding to what I've said.
No. Read the blog and the interviews. We know that they will be fully unique Core Races.
Nobody is denying their core status.
But core status has no bearing on the amount of subsequent DLC, though. *Coughs in Empire and other WH1 races*
At the end of the day, source-material is key. Whether it's new or old sources.
Empire still have two lps more then any other wh3 core race.
Yes Empire not got a flc still but!
They got two payed content updated as also the gs.
Source material as factor is also in fact pot of the window with the new wh3 races.
Personally I don't think they're going to give the Monos the same number of LPs as the others. Even if they do I don't think they're likely to do evil vs evil, especially when they're so similar, which Monogods undeniably are very similar. There's also the popularity factor. From everything we know about the data in TWW1 and TWW2 Monos are unlikely to be particularly popular, this could be countered by a fanbase that's more likely to buy DLCs but it is a factor.
That said regardless of who gets how many LPs I think Chaos vs Chaos is unlikely. Though on a personal level I'd be cool with it.
They are core races so they will obviously get a minimum of 2 LPs. Nurgle most likely even 3.
We simply don't know that. We've never had cores with 1 LL each before. There's no precedent.
We also never had 6 core races so the actual numbers of LLs is irrelevant. By CAs own description we know that they will be fully unique and diverse core races.
So you agree with me then. We simply don't know how CA will treat core races with 1 LL. It's reasonable to speculate that could mean less LPs.
Also I've very clearly never denied that they'll be fully unique core races. Please stick to responding to what I've said.
No. Read the blog and the interviews. We know that they will be fully unique Core Races.
Nobody is denying their core status.
But core status has no bearing on the amount of subsequent DLC, though. *Coughs in Empire and other WH1 races*
At the end of the day, source-material is key. Whether it's new or old sources.
Empire still have two lps more then any other wh3 core race.
Yes Empire not got a flc still but!
They got two payed content updated as also the gs.
Source material as factor is also in fact pot of the window with the new wh3 races.
It isn't out of the window, new source-material has been explicitly made for Cathay and Kislev (the latter for the upcoming Old World specialist game).
@ArneSo You named the easiest Chaos roster, besides Nurgle, to maybe get 2 Lord Pack positions. 3 Is excessive. Only Skaven have gotten 3, and they have a lot of sourcematerial. I doubt any of the WH3 factions will be the 'new Skaven'. The Empire and maybe Lizardmen are like the only ones left, beside the Skaven, which could easily get a 3rd/4th LP-position.
This is much harder for the likes of Slaanesh/Tzeentch, which might already have barely enough for a launch roster and one DLC spot.
Doubt we will see a Chaos vs Chaos LP, primarily because I think is a lot of assumptions about how the Four Chaos Daemon "races" will be implemented, based on very little information. Especially since as of right now Warriors of Chaos is still a race.
Depending on if the named hero characters are made into Legendary Lords with different mechanics, its very possible we only get 3 LP to add a mortal champion to 3 of the 4 Chaos Gods. The Daemon of Chaos roster divided by 4 even adding Warriors of Chaos is very slim and we have no confirmation in any blogs or interviews they are receiving new or custom created content let alone their full Age of Sigmar roster, unlike what we have for Cathay and Kislev.
Doubt we will see a Chaos vs Chaos LP, primarily because I think is a lot of assumptions about how the Four Chaos Daemon "races" will be implemented, based on very little information. Especially since as of right now Warriors of Chaos is still a race.
Depending on if the named hero characters are made into Legendary Lords with different mechanics, its very possible we only get 3 LP to add a mortal champion to 3 of the 4 Chaos Gods. The Daemon of Chaos roster divided by 4 even adding Warriors of Chaos is very slim and we have no confirmation in any blogs or interviews they are receiving new or custom created content let alone their full Age of Sigmar roster, unlike what we have for Cathay and Kislev.
We have no confirmation they will use units from WoC, beastmen and DoC either. Monogods races are a complete wild card at the moment.
Doubt we will see a Chaos vs Chaos LP, primarily because I think is a lot of assumptions about how the Four Chaos Daemon "races" will be implemented, based on very little information. Especially since as of right now Warriors of Chaos is still a race.
Depending on if the named hero characters are made into Legendary Lords with different mechanics, its very possible we only get 3 LP to add a mortal champion to 3 of the 4 Chaos Gods. The Daemon of Chaos roster divided by 4 even adding Warriors of Chaos is very slim and we have no confirmation in any blogs or interviews they are receiving new or custom created content let alone their full Age of Sigmar roster, unlike what we have for Cathay and Kislev.
We have no confirmation they will use units from WoC, beastmen and DoC either. Monogods races are a complete wild card at the moment.
Doubt we will see a Chaos vs Chaos LP, primarily because I think is a lot of assumptions about how the Four Chaos Daemon "races" will be implemented, based on very little information. Especially since as of right now Warriors of Chaos is still a race.
Depending on if the named hero characters are made into Legendary Lords with different mechanics, its very possible we only get 3 LP to add a mortal champion to 3 of the 4 Chaos Gods. The Daemon of Chaos roster divided by 4 even adding Warriors of Chaos is very slim and we have no confirmation in any blogs or interviews they are receiving new or custom created content let alone their full Age of Sigmar roster, unlike what we have for Cathay and Kislev.
We have no confirmation they will use units from WoC, beastmen and DoC either. Monogods races are a complete wild card at the moment.
Skullcrushers tho...
Oh yeah except for what we have seen in the trailer ofc.
Doubt we will see a Chaos vs Chaos LP, primarily because I think is a lot of assumptions about how the Four Chaos Daemon "races" will be implemented, based on very little information. Especially since as of right now Warriors of Chaos is still a race.
Depending on if the named hero characters are made into Legendary Lords with different mechanics, its very possible we only get 3 LP to add a mortal champion to 3 of the 4 Chaos Gods. The Daemon of Chaos roster divided by 4 even adding Warriors of Chaos is very slim and we have no confirmation in any blogs or interviews they are receiving new or custom created content let alone their full Age of Sigmar roster, unlike what we have for Cathay and Kislev.
We have no confirmation they will use units from WoC, beastmen and DoC either. Monogods races are a complete wild card at the moment.
Except, they don't seem to be a wildcard. We can obviously see themed Daemons and themed mortals from the WoC and DoC armybooks fighting on the same side in the cinematic. All of them based off existing models, as well. Some have gotten their AoS looks, but still the same unit.
Is this enough 'proof'? Possibly not, but it is a strong indicator.
Doubt we will see a Chaos vs Chaos LP, primarily because I think is a lot of assumptions about how the Four Chaos Daemon "races" will be implemented, based on very little information. Especially since as of right now Warriors of Chaos is still a race.
Depending on if the named hero characters are made into Legendary Lords with different mechanics, its very possible we only get 3 LP to add a mortal champion to 3 of the 4 Chaos Gods. The Daemon of Chaos roster divided by 4 even adding Warriors of Chaos is very slim and we have no confirmation in any blogs or interviews they are receiving new or custom created content let alone their full Age of Sigmar roster, unlike what we have for Cathay and Kislev.
We have no confirmation they will use units from WoC, beastmen and DoC either. Monogods races are a complete wild card at the moment.
Except, they don't seem to be a wildcard. We can obviously see themed Daemons and themed mortals from the WoC and DoC armybooks fighting on the same side in the cinematic. All of them based off existing models, as well. Some have gotten their AoS looks, but still the same unit.
Is this enough 'proof'? Possibly not, but it is a strong indicator.
It wouldn't shock me to see Monogods get some "Blessed Kroxigor" treatment drawing inspiration from AoS, but even then their unit rosters will be smaller than most other races save Vampire Counts, since Lord Packs typically contain 5-6 new Lord/Hero/Units I just don't see it happening more than 3-4 times which means less need for or chance for Chaos vs Chaos lord pack.
Though if Daemons of Chaos are designed to allow for confederation across the 4 Chaos God factions while retaining each Hordes recruitment options including Lord and Heros to essentially generate an Undivided Chaos, I could see them holding back units for more Lord Packs, again still too many unknowns make an informed decision off.
It wouldn't shock me to see Monogods get some "Blessed Kroxigor" treatment drawing inspiration from AoS, but even then their unit rosters will be smaller than most other races save Vampire Counts, since Lord Packs typically contain 5-6 new Lord/Hero/Units I just don't see it happening more than 3-4 times which means less need for or chance for Chaos vs Chaos lord pack.
Though if Daemons of Chaos are designed to allow for confederation across the 4 Chaos God factions while retaining each Hordes recruitment options including Lord and Heros to essentially generate an Undivided Chaos, I could see them holding back units for more Lord Packs, again still too many unknowns make an informed decision off.
CA need still to give all races equal amount of content, no one (who just brough wh3 for it was is in it) gonna accept it.
Also not realyl??
Is make no real diffrent if undivided exist or not there is gonna have acces to these units anyway.
It wouldn't shock me to see Monogods get some "Blessed Kroxigor" treatment drawing inspiration from AoS, but even then their unit rosters will be smaller than most other races save Vampire Counts, since Lord Packs typically contain 5-6 new Lord/Hero/Units I just don't see it happening more than 3-4 times which means less need for or chance for Chaos vs Chaos lord pack.
Though if Daemons of Chaos are designed to allow for confederation across the 4 Chaos God factions while retaining each Hordes recruitment options including Lord and Heros to essentially generate an Undivided Chaos, I could see them holding back units for more Lord Packs, again still too many unknowns make an informed decision off.
CA need still to give all races equal amount of content, no one (who just brough wh3 for it was is in it) gonna accept it.
Also not realyl??
Is make no real diffrent if undivided exist or not there is gonna have acces to these units anyway.
Equal amount of content is impossible, even CA said such a thing. Not all of the WH races could or should be equal. Potential, themes and source-material are still important things to factor in.
If a hypothetical Monogod roster is 'finished' after 1 DLC and a few FLC, then so be it.
It wouldn't shock me to see Monogods get some "Blessed Kroxigor" treatment drawing inspiration from AoS, but even then their unit rosters will be smaller than most other races save Vampire Counts, since Lord Packs typically contain 5-6 new Lord/Hero/Units I just don't see it happening more than 3-4 times which means less need for or chance for Chaos vs Chaos lord pack.
Though if Daemons of Chaos are designed to allow for confederation across the 4 Chaos God factions while retaining each Hordes recruitment options including Lord and Heros to essentially generate an Undivided Chaos, I could see them holding back units for more Lord Packs, again still too many unknowns make an informed decision off.
CA need still to give all races equal amount of content, no one (who just brough wh3 for it was is in it) gonna accept it.
Also not realyl??
Is make no real diffrent if undivided exist or not there is gonna have acces to these units anyway.
Equal amount of content is impossible, even CA said such a thing. Not all of the WH races could or should be equal. Potential, themes and source-material are still important things to factor in.
If a hypothetical Monogod roster is 'finished' after 1 DLC and a few FLC, then so be it.
We saw at least CA try to do 2 legendary lordpack for each main race.
I am.pretty sure that gonna be the case for wh3.
Also I mean!
They not do 3, mono God roster update and let the fourth rott even.
When they just getting one lp what I heavily doubt but that the topic then every of them get at least one.
Also this why I believe in chaos vs Chaos to get one out of the way.
Yeah, I'd be surprised if monogods don't get to 2 lord packs so they can finish off with at least 2 LLs apiece.
Just that I'm also expecting a few races to end up with three or four lordpacks, and I don't think we're really likely to see that level of additional material for monogods to get to that figure while also having a decent launch. Skaven are pretty clearly the favoured children now, but it's worth remembering that they suffered quite a bit for over a year due to just how much was cut out of their list to make space for future DLC.
CA could go straight into cross-game packs and still easily have space for over a dozen lordpacks. I don't think they need to plan for each Game 3 race to have 3-4 lordpacks in order to get a good DLC stream going.
Chaos versus Chaos in the form of one side being a Game 1 Chaos race I could see, although even then I'm somewhat more inclined to expect such packs to have Kislev or Cathay on the other side.
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0 · Disagree AgreeBut core status has no bearing on the amount of subsequent DLC, though. *Coughs in Empire and other WH1 races*
At the end of the day, source-material is key. Whether it's new or old sources.
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0 · Disagree AgreeSource material is irrelevant at this point since GW can always invent stuff.
Even without inventing things, the rosters are already big enough.
Khorne:
Legendary Lords:
- Skarbrand
- Skulltaker
- Valkia the Bloody
- Skarr Bloodwrath
- Arbaal the Undefeated
- Egil Styrbjorn
Legendary Heroes:
- Scyla Anfingrimm
- Karanak
Lord:
- Lord of Khorne
- Slaughterpriest
- Bloodthirster
- Daemon Prince of Khorne
Hero:
- Deathbringer
- Skullgrinder
- Herald of Khorne
- Bloodstoker
Infantry:
- Pitfighters (2-4 variants)
- Blood Warriors (2-3 variants)
- Forsaken of Khorne
- Chosen of Khorne (2-3 variants)
- Gorechained
- Skullreapers (2 variants)
- Wrathmongers
- Bloodreavers (2 variants)
- Bloodletters
- Bloodreapers
Cavalry:
- Khorne Knights (2 variants)
- Skullcrushers (2 variants)
- Bloodcrushers
Monsters & Beasts:
- Juggernauts
- Bloodbeast
- Slaughterbrute
- Exalted Greater Daemon of Khorne
- Flesh Hounds of Khorne
Artillery:
- Skull Cannon
Chariots & War Machines:
- Bloodthrone
- Blood Chariot of Khorne
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2 · Disagree AgreeYes Empire not got a flc still but!
They got two payed content updated as also the gs.
Source material as factor is also in fact pot of the window with the new wh3 races.
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1 · Disagree Agree@ArneSo You named the easiest Chaos roster, besides Nurgle, to maybe get 2 Lord Pack positions. 3 Is excessive. Only Skaven have gotten 3, and they have a lot of sourcematerial. I doubt any of the WH3 factions will be the 'new Skaven'. The Empire and maybe Lizardmen are like the only ones left, beside the Skaven, which could easily get a 3rd/4th LP-position.
This is much harder for the likes of Slaanesh/Tzeentch, which might already have barely enough for a launch roster and one DLC spot.
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0 · Disagree AgreeHowever, maybe not Monogod vs Monogod, that one is up in the air, but Monogod vs, say, WoC or BM is a possibility. Or maybe against Skaven.
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1 · Disagree AgreeDepending on if the named hero characters are made into Legendary Lords with different mechanics, its very possible we only get 3 LP to add a mortal champion to 3 of the 4 Chaos Gods. The Daemon of Chaos roster divided by 4 even adding Warriors of Chaos is very slim and we have no confirmation in any blogs or interviews they are receiving new or custom created content let alone their full Age of Sigmar roster, unlike what we have for Cathay and Kislev.
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1 · Disagree AgreeIs this enough 'proof'? Possibly not, but it is a strong indicator.
Khorne's roster thus far:
- Chosen of Khorne
- Skullcrushers
- Bloodletters
- Bloodthirster
- Furies
All from the 8th edition TT.
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0 · Disagree AgreeThis is a new race, what they choose to do with it is up in the air.
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1 · Disagree AgreeThough if Daemons of Chaos are designed to allow for confederation across the 4 Chaos God factions while retaining each Hordes recruitment options including Lord and Heros to essentially generate an Undivided Chaos, I could see them holding back units for more Lord Packs, again still too many unknowns make an informed decision off.
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0 · Disagree AgreeAlso not realyl??
Is make no real diffrent if undivided exist or not there is gonna have acces to these units anyway.
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0 · Disagree AgreeIf a hypothetical Monogod roster is 'finished' after 1 DLC and a few FLC, then so be it.
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0 · Disagree AgreeI am.pretty sure that gonna be the case for wh3.
Also I mean!
They not do 3, mono God roster update and let the fourth rott even.
When they just getting one lp what I heavily doubt but that the topic then every of them get at least one.
Also this why I believe in chaos vs Chaos to get one out of the way.
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0 · Disagree AgreeJust that I'm also expecting a few races to end up with three or four lordpacks, and I don't think we're really likely to see that level of additional material for monogods to get to that figure while also having a decent launch. Skaven are pretty clearly the favoured children now, but it's worth remembering that they suffered quite a bit for over a year due to just how much was cut out of their list to make space for future DLC.
CA could go straight into cross-game packs and still easily have space for over a dozen lordpacks. I don't think they need to plan for each Game 3 race to have 3-4 lordpacks in order to get a good DLC stream going.
Chaos versus Chaos in the form of one side being a Game 1 Chaos race I could see, although even then I'm somewhat more inclined to expect such packs to have Kislev or Cathay on the other side.
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