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[Poll] - Are you more interested in playing Cathay, Daemons of Chaos or Kislev in the third game?

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  • BayesBayes Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,501
    4 full LPs worth of content for chaos. A total of 4 LLs for each chaos faction, it is both the maximum and the minimum for me personally. I definitely think kislev and cathay(I do not understand why they would not be treated equally) should get more content, maybe 6 LLs each.

    Game 1 races should get 1 more lord pack(there might be exceptions to this) but game 2 races should take a back seat, If neither of them saw more lord packs that would be perfectly fine and even preferable to me. Thanquol free lc, I mean cmon skaven already got 3 lord packs.
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    Beastmen

  • ArecBalrinArecBalrin Registered Users Posts: 2,539
    Before, it would have been fine for there to be Daemons as a core WH3 race, along with long-awaited overhauls of Warriors of Chaos, Beastmen and Norsca.

    Then CA chose to go with mono-gods, making each dark god a core race in their own right, and CA should be held to that: each one a fully-fleshed out race. The problem was the maths of it: 9 does not divide evenly among 6.

    I can not fathom why they would deliberately opt for that.
  • BayesBayes Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,501
    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    That is a bit much to conclude just from the fact they are released with game 3 isn't it? We already know they can treat them differently, the 9 LLs cannot be divided by 6(7).
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921
    Bayes said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    That is a bit much to conclude just from the fact they are released with game 3 isn't it? We already know they can treat them differently, the 9 LLs cannot be divided by 6(7).
    Belakor as 9th.
    Beastmen

  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 27,641
    edited April 6
    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Hyped for TWW3.

    CA! Cathay has the most potential of any race in TWW by far. More A+ material to design a race from than any other. You can make Cathay the best race in TWW history. I bolieve in you!
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Beastmen

  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 27,641
    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Hyped for TWW3.

    CA! Cathay has the most potential of any race in TWW by far. More A+ material to design a race from than any other. You can make Cathay the best race in TWW history. I bolieve in you!
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    Beastmen

  • saweendrasaweendra Registered Users Posts: 13,778
    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    i feel your gonna be disappointed badly . specially if you're khorne fan i just don't see khorne getting multiple dlc while nurgle might end up being like skaven
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921
    saweendra said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    i feel your gonna be disappointed badly . specially if you're khorne fan i just don't see khorne getting multiple dlc while nurgle might end up being like skaven
    As a Chaos fan, over TT, and this game, I'm WELL used to disappointment.

    That doesnt mean I wont let CA know they are clowns if they end up doing something like that.

    Heck, I'll even make a reddit account so I can let them know in a place they will read!
    Beastmen

  • saweendrasaweendra Registered Users Posts: 13,778
    Surge_2 said:

    saweendra said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    i feel your gonna be disappointed badly . specially if you're khorne fan i just don't see khorne getting multiple dlc while nurgle might end up being like skaven
    As a Chaos fan, over TT, and this game, I'm WELL used to disappointment.

    That doesnt mean I wont let CA know they are clowns if they end up doing something like that.

    Heck, I'll even make a reddit account so I can let them know in a place they will read!
    doesn't matter not all the mono will be treated equally some gods will be treated better others treated not well.

    as for reddit post well gonna be brutally honest , i don't think that will effect any thing, because splitting them up as mono mean GW have to allow CA to be creative and support them . and well GW will support certain gods better than others
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921
    saweendra said:

    Surge_2 said:

    saweendra said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    i feel your gonna be disappointed badly . specially if you're khorne fan i just don't see khorne getting multiple dlc while nurgle might end up being like skaven
    As a Chaos fan, over TT, and this game, I'm WELL used to disappointment.

    That doesnt mean I wont let CA know they are clowns if they end up doing something like that.

    Heck, I'll even make a reddit account so I can let them know in a place they will read!
    doesn't matter not all the mono will be treated equally some gods will be treated better others treated not well.

    as for reddit post well gonna be brutally honest , i don't think that will effect any thing, because splitting them up as mono mean GW have to allow CA to be creative and support them . and well GW will support certain gods better than others
    Bro...I'm going to level with you.

    Nothing we say or do, impacts outside of our own immediate circle.

    People will do what they want.

    So, I will rage against things I see as wrong, because **** em. Thats why.
    Beastmen

  • saweendrasaweendra Registered Users Posts: 13,778
    Surge_2 said:

    saweendra said:

    Surge_2 said:

    saweendra said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    i feel your gonna be disappointed badly . specially if you're khorne fan i just don't see khorne getting multiple dlc while nurgle might end up being like skaven
    As a Chaos fan, over TT, and this game, I'm WELL used to disappointment.

    That doesnt mean I wont let CA know they are clowns if they end up doing something like that.

    Heck, I'll even make a reddit account so I can let them know in a place they will read!
    doesn't matter not all the mono will be treated equally some gods will be treated better others treated not well.

    as for reddit post well gonna be brutally honest , i don't think that will effect any thing, because splitting them up as mono mean GW have to allow CA to be creative and support them . and well GW will support certain gods better than others
    Bro...I'm going to level with you.

    Nothing we say or do, impacts outside of our own immediate circle.

    People will do what they want.

    So, I will rage against things I see as wrong, because **** em. Thats why.
    this is so **** true
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 27,641
    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    Ni de taidu tebie cha!

    And Chaos is getting way more LPs than Cathay. It just so happens Cathay should get more than individual gods.

    I'll also note I'll be waiting for Ogres longer than you waiting for lolchaos in all its glory.
    Hyped for TWW3.

    CA! Cathay has the most potential of any race in TWW by far. More A+ material to design a race from than any other. You can make Cathay the best race in TWW history. I bolieve in you!
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    Ni de taidu tebie cha!

    And Chaos is getting way more LPs than Cathay. It just so happens Cathay should get more than individual gods.

    I'll also note I'll be waiting for Ogres longer than you waiting for lolchaos in all its glory.
    Not certain. I may never get what I wanted.

    And no, Cathay shouldn't get more than any individual god.

    It should have been a 2 lord half race pack, like Norsca.
    Beastmen

  • davedave1124davedave1124 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 15,065
    I’ll never quite understand people seeing it as a bad thing CA bringing a dead TT game back and going so far as to even develop the lesser known races. Dead world, never coming back and CA pretty much manages to motivate GW to firm up 2 races without much lore.

    I do not think the Daemons will be anything like half races or a shoddy set of races. I’m also pretty sure CA understand the issues of starting them all in the same place, don’t think it’ll happen. There’s no evidence to suggest anything about the Mono races will be half-assed, apart from a missing core LL and in the grand scheme of things that isn’t a lot missing, the DLC Lord’s usually have a lot more about them.

    In essence one race is getting 4 rosters and 5 LLs, that’s more than any other race. When CA said game 3 will have a heavy Chaos theme from what we’ve seen so far, it’s an honest statement.
    Interested in Sea Elves? Did you just call me a simpleton?

  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Registered Users Posts: 10,962
    Oh, look. Now we are arguing over whether monogods should have 2/3s of the post-launch content compared to other core races or "just" half.

    Seriously, Chaos was three armies on the tabletop. It's going to be at least seven in Game 3. Four LLs per god, plus expansions that the three existing races are going to need to bring them up to date... I don't think there's any credible fear that Chaos is getting the short straw. They're getting more than any other group of three races are getting... and that's without going back to 6E and before when they were one race.
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  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921
    Draxynnic said:


    Seriously, Chaos was three armies on the tabletop. It's going to be at least seven in Game 3. Four LLs per god, plus expansions that the three existing races are going to need to bring them up to date... I don't think there's any credible fear that Chaos is getting the short straw. They're getting more than any other group of three races are getting... and that's without going back to 6E and before when they were one race.

    Once they have the content they should have had for years, great.

    Until then, its not enough. Simple as that.
    Beastmen

  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 27,641
    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    Ni de taidu tebie cha!

    And Chaos is getting way more LPs than Cathay. It just so happens Cathay should get more than individual gods.

    I'll also note I'll be waiting for Ogres longer than you waiting for lolchaos in all its glory.
    Not certain. I may never get what I wanted.

    And no, Cathay shouldn't get more than any individual god.

    It should have been a 2 lord half race pack, like Norsca.
    Tough luck.

    7 races, loads of LPs, Chaos is fine. Whether or not a couple of the 7 races get less than Cathay doesn't matter. Collectively they get vastly more.

    Fantasy China has a ridonkulous amount of potential. A fully done core with 3 LPs isn't asking much. Maybe even 4 LPs. You may not like it, but I do, and that's what matters.
    Hyped for TWW3.

    CA! Cathay has the most potential of any race in TWW by far. More A+ material to design a race from than any other. You can make Cathay the best race in TWW history. I bolieve in you!
  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Registered Users Posts: 10,962
    Surge_2 said:

    Draxynnic said:


    Seriously, Chaos was three armies on the tabletop. It's going to be at least seven in Game 3. Four LLs per god, plus expansions that the three existing races are going to need to bring them up to date... I don't think there's any credible fear that Chaos is getting the short straw. They're getting more than any other group of three races are getting... and that's without going back to 6E and before when they were one race.

    Once they have the content they should have had for years, great.

    Until then, its not enough. Simple as that.
    Sure. But let's say that they're at that point. Monogods have four or five LLs apiece, and just about everything that people could realistically imagine for them has been implemented already.

    Would you, at that point, begrudge Kislev and/or Cathay receiving extra content if GW comes up with the ideas to expand them further? Or would you insist that if either of those get to 3 LPs, all of the monogods should as well because they're all core races?

    Because I'll tell you now, the game 2 core races aren't being treated equally, and a lot of people are calling that a good thing.
  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921
    Draxynnic said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Draxynnic said:


    Seriously, Chaos was three armies on the tabletop. It's going to be at least seven in Game 3. Four LLs per god, plus expansions that the three existing races are going to need to bring them up to date... I don't think there's any credible fear that Chaos is getting the short straw. They're getting more than any other group of three races are getting... and that's without going back to 6E and before when they were one race.

    Once they have the content they should have had for years, great.

    Until then, its not enough. Simple as that.
    Sure. But let's say that they're at that point. Monogods have four or five LLs apiece, and just about everything that people could realistically imagine for them has been implemented already.

    Would you, at that point, begrudge Kislev and/or Cathay receiving extra content if GW comes up with the ideas to expand them further? Or would you insist that if either of those get to 3 LPs, all of the monogods should as well because they're all core races?

    Because I'll tell you now, the game 2 core races aren't being treated equally, and a lot of people are calling that a good thing.
    As long as the various factions get 4 before Cathay, or Kislev, or in parallel, no I wouldnt care after that.

    It wont change my view on Cathay, but at least then I'm not watching a figment, be updated before Chaos.
    Beastmen

  • Surge_2Surge_2 Registered Users Posts: 5,921

    You may not like it, but I do, and that's what matters.

    We are enemy-foes?!?
    Beastmen

  • maccabbeemaccabbee Registered Users Posts: 1,107
    Thinking about it, Chaos definitely needs to get the lionshare of content for WH3. The Chaos Gods are GW's most iconic characters, uniting both 40k and Fantasy players as it is the common ground that connects both settings. The Chaos Gods have 3 decades of pop culture importance and shouldn't be relegated to 2nd billing after china.

  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 27,641
    edited April 7
    Surge_2 said:

    You may not like it, but I do, and that's what matters.

    We are enemy-foes?!?
    Frenemy Brofoes.

    Tis but natural for a -seemingly- rare chaos fan capable of communication to be the foe of a Cathay nut.
    Hyped for TWW3.

    CA! Cathay has the most potential of any race in TWW by far. More A+ material to design a race from than any other. You can make Cathay the best race in TWW history. I bolieve in you!
  • yukontherunyukontherun Registered Users Posts: 869
    Draxynnic said:

    Oh, look. Now we are arguing over whether monogods should have 2/3s of the post-launch content compared to other core races or "just" half.

    Seriously, Chaos was three armies on the tabletop. It's going to be at least seven in Game 3. Four LLs per god, plus expansions that the three existing races are going to need to bring them up to date... I don't think there's any credible fear that Chaos is getting the short straw. They're getting more than any other group of three races are getting... and that's without going back to 6E and before when they were one race.

    Preach. All of these "every chaos faction needs it's own game" comments are as weird as the elf fans who think every odd elf mention deserve it's own race pack.

    Obviously CA is aware that order factions sell like hotcakes, hence why they probably gave Cathay it's own spot, not because of "evil China money".
    Justice for the scalies!

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  • Man2008kindMan2008kind Bucharest, RomaniaRegistered Users Posts: 1,636
    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    And you think how much YOU waited matters? Many, MANY people have waited years, hell even a decade or two, for the East to be expanded. They outnumber you and the years you've waited. They are not biased and know that bringing the setting back from the dead and expanding upon it is the best thing that could happen. THEY deserve the content they want, not you and your s***** bias on not expanding the setting so it can wither and die.
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 27,641

    Draxynnic said:

    Oh, look. Now we are arguing over whether monogods should have 2/3s of the post-launch content compared to other core races or "just" half.

    Seriously, Chaos was three armies on the tabletop. It's going to be at least seven in Game 3. Four LLs per god, plus expansions that the three existing races are going to need to bring them up to date... I don't think there's any credible fear that Chaos is getting the short straw. They're getting more than any other group of three races are getting... and that's without going back to 6E and before when they were one race.

    Preach. All of these "every chaos faction needs it's own game" comments are as weird as the elf fans who think every odd elf mention deserve it's own race pack.

    Obviously CA is aware that order factions sell like hotcakes, hence why they probably gave Cathay it's own spot, not because of "evil China money".
    I'm currently writing a thread on this. I suspect Cathay will be a lot more popular in english speaking countries than some people seem to think. Some people think it's just purely for China, but I'd probably give it a 60% chance of being the most popular period.
    Hyped for TWW3.

    CA! Cathay has the most potential of any race in TWW by far. More A+ material to design a race from than any other. You can make Cathay the best race in TWW history. I bolieve in you!
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 27,641
    edited April 7

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    Surge_2 said:

    . However I don't see the justification for them getting as much content as Cathay each if they're 1/3rd as played or less.

    This is where we part, and is exactly what I am worried about.

    A bunch of casuals hurting my chances at finally getting the Chaos updates needed.

    Absolutely disgusting.
    We're still talking about 8 LPs for the 3 Chaos books.... right?

    Even in my scenario it's 5 and that's crossovers from day 1.
    If Cathay gets more than Chaos, it's wrong. Simple as that.
    I'm pretty awful at maths but last I checked 5 is more than 3, so is 8.
    I am just saying, any way you cut it.

    Are we getting 1 Chaos faction? I don't think so.

    So that doesn't mean much.

    Khorne gets as much as Cathay.
    Nurgle gets as much as Cathay.
    Tzeetch gets as much as Cathay.
    Slaanesh gets as much as Cathay.

    That's on CA for using Monos.
    You can't have it both ways. You can't combine them when it's convenient and separate them when it's not. Reality is all 4 are Chaos.

    Yeah, CA messed up by giving us Mono cores, but that doesn't mean the other races can't get treated well.
    Exactly, but 'well' is EQUAL.

    If Mono's are core? Thats 4 LL for every 'core' faction. I dont want to hear anything else but.
    Equality of opportunity, not of outcome.

    Getting 4 core slots is a privilege, even if they are half cores. It doesn't mean other races can't get a good number of LPs.
    Nope, unacceptable.

    I've waited years. Literally years, for Chaos to be given what it should have had since day 1.

    Cathay can get to the **** back of the line.

    Cathay is NOT more important than Khorne, or any other Chaos God.

    Therefore?

    Whatever number Cathay hits, every Chaos faction hits. Anything else is unacceptable.
    And you think how much YOU waited matters? Many, MANY people have waited years, hell even a decade or two, for the East to be expanded. They outnumber you and the years you've waited. They are not biased and know that bringing the setting back from the dead and expanding upon it is the best thing that could happen. THEY deserve the content they want, not you and your s***** bias on not expanding the setting so it can wither and die.
    Dude... everyone is biased. That's how people work. I don't get how "you're biased!" is an insult.... of course they're biased, they're a functional human being.

    Also please stop taking this so seriously. You don't have to be offended because someone else has a different opinion.
    Hyped for TWW3.

    CA! Cathay has the most potential of any race in TWW by far. More A+ material to design a race from than any other. You can make Cathay the best race in TWW history. I bolieve in you!
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