Grimgor's 'Ardboyz unique Immortulz Armour Scrap Upgrade

Cvejo

What is exactly the point of this upgrade?

With 72 starting Leadership they don't have too bad morale; the +10 Leadership isn't all that much, and the Fear isn't all that awesome either.

The upgrade isn't even at least cheap, like is the case for all of Wurrzag's unique ones. It's whopping 80 Scrap. In what scenario would we really take the immortulz Armour over e.g. Jagged Weapons (+10 Bonus vs Infantry) or even the Longer Weapons scrap upgrades?

And unlike the other faction-specific upgrades, it s exclusively limited to just one unit (Black Orcs).

EmeraldThanatos

It makes the unit with the Immortulz banner virtually unkillable if you stack only a little more LD on them.

Red_Dox

Cvejo said:

And unlike the other faction-specific upgrades, it s exclusively limited to just one unit (Black Orcs).

Da Immortulz are Grimgors, and his Regiment of Renown alone. There is also always only one Immortulz regiment, never more.

-----Red Dox

Helhound

You need to pick one unit of Black Orks, just one, and stack every single conceivable upgrade on them. The Immortulz armor unique scrap upgrade, the banner, and as many confident characters and lds auras you can manage. The Immortulz lds value is effectively their hit points. They could be at literally zero health, but in so long as their lds holds they'll never die.

Itharus

At best: metagaming a single unit.
At worst: Noob trap for people who don't meta.

A lot of the scrap system is a noob trap, honestly. There are very specific choices that are wildly superior to the others.

MiniaAr

Yes it does seem that it's only useful on the single unit with Grimgor's banner and if you use heroes with either the confident (+4ld) or disciplined (2ld +2 MA) traits.

Don't bother in any other situation. I'm playing a Grimgor campaign at the moment and got a starting confident BoBB, so I'm using this scrap on the starting Black Orc unit. But I'm not going to pay for any other one. I much prefer the +10 Bonus v infantry.

Also I noticed I still lose models against artillery, even if the LD of the Immortulz is around 70. Did anybody notice that as well?

Cvejo

EmeraldThanatos said:

It makes the unit with the Immortulz banner virtually unkillable if you stack only a little more LD on them.

A lot, yes.

"A little more", no. It's just 10.