Chakax as the LH for LM?

Thomassini

I think it would be right to give LM another LH.

Here comes Chakax, the Eternal Warden of Xlanhuapec.

With a 'wildcard' mechanic - he'd be able to level up from 1 to 40 as any other LL or LH, with one slight modification.
I can imagine him as being able to be summoned in any walled city under siege - regardless of his current placement. That'd essentially mean that he's always available in the "pool", and if he's attached to a standing army, he'd be 'teleported' to the besieged city and - if he survives - back to the army. Of course that would come with the caveat of 10 turn cooldown.

He would be essentially the pinnacle of defense, the definition of tanky unit, but fast enough to keep pace with even nimblest of elves - combo of a tank and a duelist, but unlike Gor'Rok or Kroq, be won't be infantry leader or a damage dealer. More of a last resort bodyguard, buffing nearby LL and Temple Guards (so far we don't have any lord buffing their stats).

Pocman#6295

I would defintely prefer this guy over Tettoeko.

UberReptilian#8431

I want Chakax as a LH...in game III with a Tetto Eko DLC. Doesn't make much sense to me to add him with Oxyotl since he doesn't need protection. The dude spent 70 centuries killing Greater Daemons on their home turf, he needs no Guardian.

A skink so revered he was gifted a Slann Palanquin on the other hand would need protection. That's where I feel Chakax would get the most mileage (and LM too since they'd get all 8th Characters plus a damn rework).

Thomassini

UberReptilian said:

I want Chakax as a LH...in game III with a Tetto Eko DLC. Doesn't make much sense to me to add him with Oxyotl since he doesn't need protection. The dude spent 70 centuries killing Greater Daemons on their home turf, he needs no Guardian.

A skink so revered he was gifted a Slann Palanquin on the other hand would need protection. That's where I feel Chakax would get the most mileage (and LM too since they'd get all 8th Characters plus a damn rework).

Well, I didn't say he must come in the next DLC. Just a free-floating idea.


What I think LM need is more flexibility on their home turf, they are goddamn reptiles, they should know all the shortcuts of the jungle, plus the artifacts of the Old Ones - with their help LM should be able to significantly shorten their journeys (or even limited teleport ability) between their own pyramid cities. Instead they are out-run, out-maneouvred and out-witted by almost all the other races on their hometurf! Chakax being able to teleport to a city in need is a first step in this direction.

Captain_Rex#1635

That’s what I’m hoping for. Either as part of the LP or as the real FLC.

Itharus#3127

I'd rather see Kroq'gar get his faction and lord bonuses updated. I swear he is THE most out of date LL on the books in terms of what he brings to the table.

UberReptilian#8431

Thomassini said:

UberReptilian said:

I want Chakax as a LH...in game III with a Tetto Eko DLC. Doesn't make much sense to me to add him with Oxyotl since he doesn't need protection. The dude spent 70 centuries killing Greater Daemons on their home turf, he needs no Guardian.

A skink so revered he was gifted a Slann Palanquin on the other hand would need protection. That's where I feel Chakax would get the most mileage (and LM too since they'd get all 8th Characters plus a damn rework).

Well, I didn't say he must come in the next DLC. Just a free-floating idea.


What I think LM need is more flexibility on their home turf, they are goddamn reptiles, they should know all the shortcuts of the jungle, plus the artifacts of the Old Ones - with their help LM should be able to significantly shorten their journeys (or even limited teleport ability) between their own pyramid cities. Instead they are out-run, out-maneouvred and out-witted by almost all the other races on their hometurf! Chakax being able to teleport to a city in need is a first step in this direction.

Well LM are the talk right now since we all want to know what they're getting with Oxy. Apologies if I misunderstood the OP. I agree though Lizard movement in their own continent is odd. LM teleporting in general is need imo since it's literally what the Geomantic web can do.

mecanojavi99#6562

I would prefer him to be a LH available to Mazdamundi and Tetto'Eko when he arrives, his role pretty much is that of the best Bodyguard on the setting, so he would be very useful for pure casters like those 2.

ToxicFlames#7892

My guess is this guy for Lizardmen and Slugtongue or Moonclaw for Beastmen.

Ghorros or Toddy for the FLC Lord

Aethelstan

Having Chakax teleport to any settlement under siege is a cool concept, but I don’t think he’ll be enough to turn the course of a siege battle. Maybe he could bring a unit of temple guard / wardens as well?

I imagine him having an upgraded version of the Guardian passive, that gives 30% phys resist or maybe 15% ward save to nearby lords and heroes.

Killertut#9655

i have a feeling there wont be lh's in this dlc

Thomassini

Aethelstan said:

Having Chakax teleport to any settlement under siege is a cool concept, but I don’t think he’ll be enough to turn the course of a siege battle. Maybe he could bring a unit of temple guard / wardens as well?

It's a good idea, I'd further mold it into a stackable slider, with 3 levels:

1. Chakax alone
2. Chakax + one unit of temple guard
3. Chakax + two units of temple guard + terradon rider with fire bolas or horned ones.

ladymissfit#8688

i think, as long as he's not linked to oxyotl specifically, i would welcome it. big buffs to/when near lords (or maybe just slann even) with great dueling potential? I'm into it.

ladymissfit#8688

**** hell he'd be an monster combined with Gor-rok

Thomassini

ladymissfit said:

**** hell he'd be an monster combined with Gor-rok

That's exactly what I was thinking about. An army with Gor'Rok, Chakax and Kroak would be hella legendary stuff.

Oxyotl shouldn't be linked to Chakax in the same way as Kroak wasn't directly connected to Gor'Rok (via DLC) but rather part of a DLC with (unrelated) Nakai, while Gor'Rok was an FLC. They could pull off the same trick with Chakax this time.

hendo#1695

I'm glad it seems CA got over their (kindhearted) pride over LL. I remember a comment from the devs saying that they avoid making heroes because they put a lot of work into the characters which should equate to LL status.

LHs are the way to go, especially to get as many named characters in the game as possible.

Vildvarg

I think I'd prefer BM get a LH considering LM already have Kroak.

He's a cool concept though. I wouldn't be against it at some point. But the lizzies have already gotten a ton of love and this may be their final touch up for all we know.

steam_165171714789pPAEKOH

I would like them to move Tiktaq'to over to Legendary Hero. The most worthless LL in the game. He could actually be fun as a hero.

Thomassini

Vildvarg said:

I think I'd prefer BM get a LH considering LM already have Kroak.

He's a cool concept though. I wouldn't be against it at some point. But the lizzies have already gotten a ton of love and this may be their final touch up for all we know.

Nothing stops them from giving LH to both sides - look at the last LP where we got goddamn three LHs - Ghoritch, Ariel and Coeddil.

That it may be the last time for LM to shine points even more to the necessity of giving them as many characters as possible this time. If Chakax makes it in, then the only missing relevant character for LM would be Tetto'Eko, who can be an FLC somewhere during the WH3's lifecycle...

Thomassini

endikux said:

I would like them to move Tiktaq'to over to Legendary Hero. The most worthless LL in the game. He could actually be fun as a hero.

No way, I also wasn't happy about him back in 2019, but he actually provides A LOT of gameplay variety - simply because he allows an all-flier campaign from the get go, which was kinda revolutionary when he was introduced and still is a unique experience, espeically for lizards.

His unique ritual is also great fun, an example of "thinking outside the box" for devs - very simple tweak but a lot of value in the campaign, even more for LM who aren't exactly a mobile race.

For me his campaign turns out to be much better thought out (mechanic-wise) than Nakai's and Tehenhauin's ones. Goes together with Alith an "R" (credits to @RikRiorik ), Imrik and Drycha as FLCs that are actually much more fun than their respective DLC counterparts.

Vildvarg

Thomassini said:

Vildvarg said:

I think I'd prefer BM get a LH considering LM already have Kroak.

He's a cool concept though. I wouldn't be against it at some point. But the lizzies have already gotten a ton of love and this may be their final touch up for all we know.

Nothing stops them from giving LH to both sides - look at the last LP where we got goddamn three LHs - Ghoritch, Ariel and Coeddil.

That it may be the last time for LM to shine points even more to the necessity of giving them as many characters as possible this time. If Chakax makes it in, then the only missing relevant character for LM would be Tetto'Eko, who can be an FLC somewhere during the WH3's lifecycle...

I'm not trying to content deny anyone. Just stating in an either or situation I'd hope to see the BM get one than the LM get two.

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it happen for both either, but I'd be surprised if we started expecting two LH or even one per LP become the regular.

Just my two cents.