Tzaanbull Sorcerers for Tzeentch?

Captain_Rex#1635

Since Khorne gets Bloodbulls as a unit of Khorne aligned Minotaurs, it is possible that CA will also add marked BM to other Monogod races.

Tzaanbulls for example are known for being skilled sorcerers.

I personally would love to see a Tzaanbull Sorcerer hero for Tzeentch. The idea of magic using Minotaurs is really appealing and a monstrous caster hero like the River Troll Hag or the Fimir Balefiend is super fun in my opinion.

How would you like the Addition of Tzaanbull Sorcerers?

Should they be heroes or just proper units with bound spells?

Fossoway

I think it's more likely that Tzaanbulls will just be a Minotaur variant with magical attacks and maybe a bound spell.

Thomassini

It's weird. Minotaurs are creatures driven by very base instincts at the core, possessed by bloodlust and rage, not capable of anything close to talking, much less sorcery.

One bound basic spell, two at stretch - ok.

Whole arsenal of sorcery - nope.

The minotaur being possessed by bray shaman is ok - this, on the other hand, is contradicting decades of established lore.

It's not like Tzeentch will be lacking in sorcerers or creatures capable of magic anyway.

Bies#4376

Pocman#6295

Bies said:

Oh god, no.

RJCPS

Bies said:

simply terrible

elkapp

Tbh i wouldn't mind if CA made non-character units that can also cast through WoM. It will actually make some units more interesting instead of spamming limited use bound spells.

However, if i have to choose the most likely (at least what i consider most likely) i'd say hero with weak spells, much like loremasters, to balance their melee stats and speed.

Djau#5149

Khorne:
Lord: Beastlord of Khorne
Hero: Khorngor Champion
Units: Khorngors, Bloodbulls

Tzeentch:
Lord: Beastlord of Tzeentch
Hero: Tzaangor Sorcerer
Units: Tzaangors, Tzaanbulls

Nurgle:
Lord: Beastlord of Nurgle
Hero: Pestigor Sorcerer
Units: Pestigors, Pestibulls

Slaanesh
Lord: Beastlord of Slaanesh
Hero: Slaangor Sorcerer
Units: Slaangors, Slaanbull

Should cover all of the Beastman side for each of the faction.

Djau#5149

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

RJCPS

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

HighPriest_Astragoth#4150

Bies said:

Looks like a unlocked skin for that one Street Fighter character, Blanka.

Chora#5222

ArneSo said:

Since Khorne gets Bloodbulls as a unit of Khorne aligned Minotaurs, it is possible that CA will also add marked BM to other Monogod races.

Tzaanbulls for example are known for being skilled sorcerers.

I personally would love to see a Tzaanbull Sorcerer hero for Tzeentch. The idea of magic using Minotaurs is really appealing and a monstrous caster hero like the River Troll Hag or the Fimir Balefiend is super fun in my opinion.

How would you like the Addition of Tzaanbull Sorcerers?

Should they be heroes or just proper units with bound spells?

I love this idea. Which is say something cause I hate most things

Djau#5149

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

Forumaccountkroqgar

Bies said:

That's a good design, looks great for AoS!

RJCPS

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

what crazy mutations? that looks like a strange minotaur with an hunchback and tight leather pants to show of for instagram. No crazy mutations there.

Red_Dox#2328

6th edition BoC


The marks changed slightly in 8th but should still give an idea.
For units I expect a wardsave similar to what WoC should get or what Endtimes did for Beastmen. Lords/Heroes marked obviously wizards, but I would not expect the units to cast spells like we for example expect for Blue/Pink Horrors as bound abilities.

Bies said:

I remember researching that thing when I first saw it, and it is some new AoS lifeform. Not a Minotaur/Beastmen.

------Red Dox

Djau#5149

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

what crazy mutations? that looks like a strange minotaur with an hunchback and tight leather pants to show of for instagram. No crazy mutations there.

its closer to an ogre. Its mutated a tail, horns, hooves and weird tatooes.

Mogwai_Man#4978

Bies said:

While I think the Ogroid Thaumaturge is a cool model, it's also an AoS model. So it belongs to that setting.

ArneSo said:

Since Khorne gets Bloodbulls as a unit of Khorne aligned Minotaurs, it is possible that CA will also add marked BM to other Monogod races.

Tzaanbulls for example are known for being skilled sorcerers.

I personally would love to see a Tzaanbull Sorcerer hero for Tzeentch. The idea of magic using Minotaurs is really appealing and a monstrous caster hero like the River Troll Hag or the Fimir Balefiend is super fun in my opinion.

How would you like the Addition of Tzaanbull Sorcerers?

Should they be heroes or just proper units with bound spells?

Tzaanbulls would be a unit, Tzaangor shamans however are a hero.

RJCPS

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

what crazy mutations? that looks like a strange minotaur with an hunchback and tight leather pants to show of for instagram. No crazy mutations there.

its closer to an ogre. Its mutated a tail, horns, hooves and weird tatooes.

ok, its an ogre mutated to look like a strange minotaur. Ok, i'll give you that. the rest of my comment remains. its a bull like figure with an hunchback and what can only be considered as a terrible terrible terrible lower half design and colour scheme it should go back to the drawing board or stay within AoS.

Djau#5149

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

what crazy mutations? that looks like a strange minotaur with an hunchback and tight leather pants to show of for instagram. No crazy mutations there.

its closer to an ogre. Its mutated a tail, horns, hooves and weird tatooes.

ok, its an ogre mutated to look like a strange minotaur. Ok, i'll give you that. the rest of my comment remains. its a bull like figure with an hunchback and what can only be considered as a terrible terrible terrible lower half design and colour scheme it should go back to the drawing board or stay within AoS.

Be prepared for stuff like it for The Old World, the superior version of Fantasy.

Crossil#2134

No.

And I don't think there will be Minotaurs in other four rosters.

RJCPS

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

what crazy mutations? that looks like a strange minotaur with an hunchback and tight leather pants to show of for instagram. No crazy mutations there.

its closer to an ogre. Its mutated a tail, horns, hooves and weird tatooes.

ok, its an ogre mutated to look like a strange minotaur. Ok, i'll give you that. the rest of my comment remains. its a bull like figure with an hunchback and what can only be considered as a terrible terrible terrible lower half design and colour scheme it should go back to the drawing board or stay within AoS.

Be prepared for stuff like it for The Old World, the superior version of Fantasy.

yeah as if i would take such a bait. If you think its superior, go play it or ask CA to do a TW:TOW. Bye.

Maelas

Thomassini said:

It's weird. Minotaurs are creatures driven by very base instincts at the core, possessed by bloodlust and rage, not capable of anything close to talking, much less sorcery.

That's not really true. Minotaurs are ravenous and lose themselves in battle, but they can talk, and given how their main role is guarding holy sites, they are able to show restraint and discipline, at least for a Beastman.

Djau#5149

Crossil said:

No.

And I don't think there will be Minotaurs in other four rosters.

I can see that happening; but at least would have some justification. Though Doombulls COULD take marks of other Gods.

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

what crazy mutations? that looks like a strange minotaur with an hunchback and tight leather pants to show of for instagram. No crazy mutations there.

its closer to an ogre. Its mutated a tail, horns, hooves and weird tatooes.

ok, its an ogre mutated to look like a strange minotaur. Ok, i'll give you that. the rest of my comment remains. its a bull like figure with an hunchback and what can only be considered as a terrible terrible terrible lower half design and colour scheme it should go back to the drawing board or stay within AoS.

Be prepared for stuff like it for The Old World, the superior version of Fantasy.

yeah as if i would take such a bait. If you think its superior, go play it or ask CA to do a TW:TOW. Bye.

So defensive!

RJCPS

Amonkhet said:

Crossil said:

No.

And I don't think there will be Minotaurs in other four rosters.

I can see that happening; but at least would have some justification. Though Doombulls COULD take marks of other Gods.

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Amonkhet said:

RJCPS said:

Bies said:

simply terrible

Thats not a Minotaur, thats an Ogroid, its different.

could be a pic of my grandmother, its still horrible, regardless of the name or what it is.

It makes sense for the lord of change; lots of crazy mutations.

what crazy mutations? that looks like a strange minotaur with an hunchback and tight leather pants to show of for instagram. No crazy mutations there.

its closer to an ogre. Its mutated a tail, horns, hooves and weird tatooes.

ok, its an ogre mutated to look like a strange minotaur. Ok, i'll give you that. the rest of my comment remains. its a bull like figure with an hunchback and what can only be considered as a terrible terrible terrible lower half design and colour scheme it should go back to the drawing board or stay within AoS.

Be prepared for stuff like it for The Old World, the superior version of Fantasy.

yeah as if i would take such a bait. If you think its superior, go play it or ask CA to do a TW:TOW. Bye.

So defensive!

Nah, you showed your hand. You're a closet AoS fanboy. Just admit you want an AoS game and that you are **** that this TW game is set in WHFB. You'll feel better about yourself and maybe you can stop pushing and gathering minions to push for AOS content in this game.

Didnt really went into the offensive but at least i've given you something to work with, didnt want to leave you craving for more.

XxXScorpionXxX#2310

I kind of like the idea of each mono Gods keeping some of the Beastmen subspecies to themselves.

Khorne = Minos
Slaanesh = Centis
Tzeenth = Bray Shamen
Nurgle = Ungors

and they all get their marked gor unit.

For that reason I was hoping that Khorne would get Blood Bull generic Lord and Marked Gorbull Hero character.

But if each mono god does get their own version I hope that Pestibulls and Tzaanbulls get their own models that are more than just Mino's with colored paint on their armor.

Djau#5149

XxXScorpionXxX said:

I kind of like the idea of each mono Gods keeping some of the Beastmen subspecies to themselves.

Khorne = Minos
Slaanesh = Centis
Tzeenth = Bray Shamen
Nurgle = Ungors

and they all get their marked gor unit.

For that reason I was hoping that Khorne would get Blood Bull generic Lord and Marked Gorbull Hero character.

But if each mono god does get their own version I hope that Pestibulls and Tzaanbulls get their own models that are more than just Mino's with colored paint on their armor.

I could see it for starting roster, but I'm gonna wonder where my Tzaangors are.

RamsesIII#4621

As much as I like the Ogroid Thaumaturge, as others have said he's not a beastman. I'd kind of expect a tzaanbull to focus more on the mutating aspect without going as far as chaos spawns do, though I do like the contrast between the large brutish form and the "refined" arts of magic.

Djau#5149

RamsesIII said:

As much as I like the Ogroid Thaumaturge, as others have said he's not a beastman. I'd kind of expect a tzaanbull to focus more on the mutating aspect without going as far as chaos spawns do, though I do like the contrast between the large brutish form and the "refined" arts of magic.

Doombulls with Mark of Tzeentch became Casters if I remember.

RamsesIII#4621

Amonkhet said:

RamsesIII said:

As much as I like the Ogroid Thaumaturge, as others have said he's not a beastman. I'd kind of expect a tzaanbull to focus more on the mutating aspect without going as far as chaos spawns do, though I do like the contrast between the large brutish form and the "refined" arts of magic.

Doombulls with Mark of Tzeentch became Casters if I remember.

That's fair, I don't actually know much about the gameplay specifics of the marked beastmen. If that's the case that'd be neat to see in the form of some bound spells, since I'd sooner expect something like the tzaangor shaman (yes, AOS unit, I know, but entirely plausible within WHFB lore and strongly derivative of existing WHFB units) if we're talking caster heroes or lords.

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Bies said:

AoS isn't happening.