A highly hypothetical disscusion based on the most recent revelations regarding DLC for WH3

Cortes31#6909

actually the title would have been "regarding the pre-order and campaign packs for WH3" but that proofed to be too long.


Anyway, on to the topic.
We all know what came with this DLC. Ogres making an early landfall with their first units and they come with a Mercenary System (no idea right now if that is the official name but that is what I call it). Now, what does this imply for the future? Lets take a very hypothetical take and say the following:

• Ogre Kingdoms will be the pre-order DLC
  
• Dogs of War will not arrive as own race but only as their named companies which you can recruit like Ogres right now.
  

If we follow that route, who could be the second campaign pack for WH3 besides Chaos Dwarfs?

Another minor race like Ind or Hobgoblins? Or would CA go completly out of their way and give us something like Fishmen?

Commissar_G#7535

I don't see how what was revealed means DoW won't arrive as their own race.

Omega_Warrior

Commissar_G said:

I don't see how what was revealed means DoW won't arrive as their own race.

Yeah some people take things way too far. Dogs of war actually got a big boost to their likely hood as pre order. They are closer then even before because these are basically exactly the units and mechanics that would be in their race.

Sure ogres got a much larger boost in likeliness, but anyone counting out DoW now is being way too hasty.

Valkaar#2507

Assuming Ogre Pre-Order (which isn’t guaranteed, but more plausible now than it used to be), then yes, I see CA fleshing out the Game 3 map with one of the obscure minor Races.

It honestly seems like CA LIKES expanding/getting creative with these new Races with very little lore/models. They seem to enjoy the Norsca/Coast/Cathay-style projects. They definitely seem to prefer those types of projects more than they like DoW. So I think they’d lean into that trend and add an Ind/Nippon/Khuresh type Race. If DoW aren’t the Pre-Order (which they still might be), then I think it’s more likely they’ll be mercs rather than a Race.

Omega_Warrior

There’s also the fact that DoW units aren’t exactly just clones of other races. They would need a decent amount of animations and assets to implement. If you are going that far that we are going to have almost enough units for a roster anyway, why not make them playable alone. Most the work will be done already and it would be a waste of potential for a really unique campaign.

KirGeo#5270

I disagree. This does not negate DoW/southern realms as its own faction.

Lunaticprince#9972

I think (hopefully is still ogre as cmapagne pack)

I say honestly khuresh, CA can go wild with them and would give Cathay more enemies.

But there I believe we get 3 lps for the start faction we hopeful get 3 campagne pack.

So CD, hobos and khuresh.

Could be possible

Labria#2848

It looks like Ogre Kingdoms as pre-order bonus is new trend for a few weeks on this forum. What will be next? Chaos Dwarfs? Nippon?

I really doubt CA will waste Ogre Kingdoms as cheap pre-order bonus.

It is funny that people killed Dogs of War race for no reason. We already have to many hints for Southern Realms/Dogs of War in the game.
If we will really get Dogs of War race, I am sure unit roster for this race will have main focus to Tilea/Estalia units and characters than random mix of units from others races.

Draxynnic#3149

Omega_Warrior said:

Commissar_G said:

I don't see how what was revealed means DoW won't arrive as their own race.

Yeah some people take things way too far. Dogs of war actually got a big boost to their likely hood as pre order. They are closer then even before because these are basically exactly the units and mechanics that would be in their race.

Sure ogres got a much larger boost in likeliness, but anyone counting out DoW now is being way too hasty.

If anything, an expanded mercenary mechanic might make them more likely. If they've already got the units, why not assemble them into a single list and let people go ham with the mercenary style?

Or maybe that's just being too logical.

General_Hijalti#1213

CA said they would include all 16 armybooks. That includes DoW

Man2008kind#9439

General_Hijalti said:

CA said they would include all 16 armybooks. That includes DoW

No, that includes the Chaos Dwarfs.

General_Hijalti#1213

Man2008kind said:

General_Hijalti said:

CA said they would include all 16 armybooks. That includes DoW

No, that includes the Chaos Dwarfs.

Lol I forgot to count brettonia.

However DoW armybook was more recent than the actual chaos dwarf one. And is an army book rather than a white dwarf presents.

Biggles#4266

General_Hijalti said:

Man2008kind said:

General_Hijalti said:

CA said they would include all 16 armybooks. That includes DoW

No, that includes the Chaos Dwarfs.

Lol I forgot to count brettonia.

However DoW armybook was more recent than the actual chaos dwarf one. And is an army book rather than a white dwarf presents.

They can still do both and neither are ruled out.

EmeraldThanatos#7267

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

Omega_Warrior

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

SaintCorn#3148

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Maelas

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

Red_Dox#2328

------Red Dox

SaintCorn#3148

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

kratostatic#8948

Other potential Race and Campaign packs beyond OK, CD and DoW:

Our other pre-order theories - Hobgoblins, Legions of Nagash.
The other "Eastern" factions - Nippon, Ind, Khuresh.
The Kurgan.
Araby if they somehow get uncancelled, although I don't know where they would go on new-Vortex.
Then we can get really wild. Albion, Amazons, Fishmen, Halflings.

Maelas

SaintCorn said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

Chaos wasn't revealed in a previous game, with a few units playable for free tho. That's my main point, if Ogres were gonna be the pre-order, why reveal the mercs now ? Why not wait for a big, bombastic announcement of the pre-order, with a neat twist of "some Ogres playable for free in TWWH2" ? It would have been a massive marketing coup.

Instead, now, people are gonna be "oh, yes, it's the Ogres, obviously"

General_Hijalti#1213

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

Chaos wasn't revealed in a previous game, with a few units playable for free tho. That's my main point, if Ogres were gonna be the pre-order, why reveal the mercs now ? Why not wait for a big, bombastic announcement of the pre-order, with a neat twist of "some Ogres playable for free in TWWH2" ? It would have been a massive marketing coup.

Instead, now, people are gonna be "oh, yes, it's the Ogres, obviously"

Because they don't market to the people who look for every hint and browse these forums. They market to the wider fantasy who don't follow the news. They get a taste of orges with the mercenaries, decide they like them and then are told if you ore order the next game you can get the while race for free. Driving up pre order sales among the wider audience and making more money.

SaintCorn#3148

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

Chaos wasn't revealed in a previous game, with a few units playable for free tho. That's my main point, if Ogres were gonna be the pre-order, why reveal the mercs now ? Why not wait for a big, bombastic announcement of the pre-order, with a neat twist of "some Ogres playable for free in TWWH2" ? It would have been a massive marketing coup.

Instead, now, people are gonna be "oh, yes, it's the Ogres, obviously"

It is called a "taste" of what is to come.

It's supposed to hint and tease it while getting people excited for their inclusion.

It can also be a way to partly do something similar to Norsca since that idea was well-received, but it required a lot of dev work to bring it to Game 2.

The option is a compromise. A playable teaser for Warhammer 3 to get people excited to hopefully pre-order as Ogre Kingdoms was one of the most anticipated factions left.

Maelas

General_Hijalti said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

Chaos wasn't revealed in a previous game, with a few units playable for free tho. That's my main point, if Ogres were gonna be the pre-order, why reveal the mercs now ? Why not wait for a big, bombastic announcement of the pre-order, with a neat twist of "some Ogres playable for free in TWWH2" ? It would have been a massive marketing coup.

Instead, now, people are gonna be "oh, yes, it's the Ogres, obviously"

Because they don't market to the people who look for every hint and browse these forums. They market to the wider fantasy who don't follow the news. They get a taste of orges with the mercenaries, decide they like them and then are told if you ore order the next game you can get the while race for free. Driving up pre order sales among the wider audience and making more money.

But, once again, wouldn't it be even more effective to link those two together ? Like, not only is there people that won't get the new that Ogres are on TW Access, because it's not truly linked to a big announcement, but also, for a customer, a lot can happen in a month or so. Someone that would buy Ogres after trying them now might not be able to do it later, or be playing something else by then.

It just seems more logical to reveal the pre-order, and then ride that wave with free Ogres mercs, so that people can try them and pay in a short windows of time.

SaintCorn#3148

Maelas said:

General_Hijalti said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

Chaos wasn't revealed in a previous game, with a few units playable for free tho. That's my main point, if Ogres were gonna be the pre-order, why reveal the mercs now ? Why not wait for a big, bombastic announcement of the pre-order, with a neat twist of "some Ogres playable for free in TWWH2" ? It would have been a massive marketing coup.

Instead, now, people are gonna be "oh, yes, it's the Ogres, obviously"

Because they don't market to the people who look for every hint and browse these forums. They market to the wider fantasy who don't follow the news. They get a taste of orges with the mercenaries, decide they like them and then are told if you ore order the next game you can get the while race for free. Driving up pre order sales among the wider audience and making more money.

But, once again, wouldn't it be even more effective to link those two together ? Like, not only is there people that won't get the new that Ogres are on TW Access, because it's not truly linked to a big announcement, but also, for a customer, a lot can happen in a month or so. Someone that would buy Ogres after trying them now might not be able to do it later, or be playing something else by then.

It just seems more logical to reveal the pre-order, and then ride that wave with free Ogres mercs, so that people can try them and pay in a short windows of time.

Or shortly before they reveal them.

That way people try out the addition, and they then can decide to pre-order to get more of that experience.

General_Hijalti#1213

Maelas said:

General_Hijalti said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

Chaos wasn't revealed in a previous game, with a few units playable for free tho. That's my main point, if Ogres were gonna be the pre-order, why reveal the mercs now ? Why not wait for a big, bombastic announcement of the pre-order, with a neat twist of "some Ogres playable for free in TWWH2" ? It would have been a massive marketing coup.

Instead, now, people are gonna be "oh, yes, it's the Ogres, obviously"

Because they don't market to the people who look for every hint and browse these forums. They market to the wider fantasy who don't follow the news. They get a taste of orges with the mercenaries, decide they like them and then are told if you ore order the next game you can get the while race for free. Driving up pre order sales among the wider audience and making more money.

But, once again, wouldn't it be even more effective to link those two together ? Like, not only is there people that won't get the new that Ogres are on TW Access, because it's not truly linked to a big announcement, but also, for a customer, a lot can happen in a month or so. Someone that would buy Ogres after trying them now might not be able to do it later, or be playing something else by then.

It just seems more logical to reveal the pre-order, and then ride that wave with free Ogres mercs, so that people can try them and pay in a short windows of time.

Because that doesn't build hype. People are already hyped for orges mercs. Then announcing the pre order will convince them to but the game

Maelas

General_Hijalti said:

Maelas said:

General_Hijalti said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Maelas said:

SaintCorn said:

Omega_Warrior said:

EmeraldThanatos said:

DOW can still happen, however I do think their chances have decreased for being the preorder. If the ogre mercs had just been maneaters then I would think DOW were basically guaranteed, or at least extremely likely, but seeing Mournfang cav makes the opposite true

The mournfang cav references that they work for both ogres and DoW. And they would make sense as something they would want to add to DoW, because that would be the only way DoW get monsterous cav. Not to mention that the mournfangs didn't exist at the same time as DoW, so there's no reference to whether they would be a DoW unit or not

I'm still leaning more towards that the preorder will be ogres. But the thing that puts them over dow for me is the campaign objective mention. The mournfangs aren't very decisive.

Not to mention, why would CA tease a campaign pack before over half the core races or even the map is revealed?

Because Ogres might be unplayable on the map like Chaos was back in the days, so it's a way to both tease them and also tell people "look, they're coming, just wait a lil while, you can play with a few of them while you wait" !

It's more logical to me than revealing Ogres and then doubling down in a pre-order a month later, with little to no hype or surprise.

This makes it sound like Ogres are so obviously the pre-order that it can't possibly be them is the argument.

Also, Chaos was the pre-order so .....
And that odea would also work with a pre-order with the Ogres serving as, as per CA's words, a "taster" of what is to come.

Chaos wasn't revealed in a previous game, with a few units playable for free tho. That's my main point, if Ogres were gonna be the pre-order, why reveal the mercs now ? Why not wait for a big, bombastic announcement of the pre-order, with a neat twist of "some Ogres playable for free in TWWH2" ? It would have been a massive marketing coup.

Instead, now, people are gonna be "oh, yes, it's the Ogres, obviously"

Because they don't market to the people who look for every hint and browse these forums. They market to the wider fantasy who don't follow the news. They get a taste of orges with the mercenaries, decide they like them and then are told if you ore order the next game you can get the while race for free. Driving up pre order sales among the wider audience and making more money.

But, once again, wouldn't it be even more effective to link those two together ? Like, not only is there people that won't get the new that Ogres are on TW Access, because it's not truly linked to a big announcement, but also, for a customer, a lot can happen in a month or so. Someone that would buy Ogres after trying them now might not be able to do it later, or be playing something else by then.

It just seems more logical to reveal the pre-order, and then ride that wave with free Ogres mercs, so that people can try them and pay in a short windows of time.

Because that doesn't build hype. People are already hyped for orges mercs. Then announcing the pre order will convince them to but the game

But as you said, not everyone is looking at the forum and browsing hints. Total War Access is a very obscure thing for most customers. Marketing it along a big, headline-worthy thing like the pre-order race would reach a lot more people !

And once again, why give the free taste so early ? You're only risking that people won't be ready to pay when it'll be time ! You don't do a test ride for a car, and then say the guy "if you liked it, you can buy it in 4 monthes !". Because the guy might not have the will or the means to do it then, but he have it now !