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Humans vs Elves: Which race would win in an all out war?

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  • MadDemiurgMadDemiurg Registered Users Posts: 4,621
    edited August 30
    More lore blurbs of major characters vs nameless characters or even factions. And I'm gonna pull a dave here, with no references to how many forces were even involved on each side, context etc. None of the Dark Elf raids are even mentioned in the Bret armybooks, probably because they weren't noticeable enough compared to the actual big threats that are mentioned. At this point you can argue that Vampire Coast is stronger than the Lizardmen, because it successfully raids them.

  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422
    edited August 30

    More lore blurbs of major characters vs nameless characters or even factions. And I'm gonna pull a dave here, with no references to how many forces were even involved on each side, context etc. None of the Dark Elf raids are even mentioned in the Bret armybooks, probably because they weren't noticeable enough compared to the actual big threats. At this point you can argue that Vampire Coast is stronger than lizardmen, because it successfully raids them.

    Or maybe it is because Bretonia was not important enough to get 7th and 8th edition
    What would you say about the slaughtering of Grail Knights\Damsels ?

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • MadDemiurgMadDemiurg Registered Users Posts: 4,621
    edited August 30

    More lore blurbs of major characters vs nameless characters or even factions. And I'm gonna pull a dave here, with no references to how many forces were even involved on each side, context etc. None of the Dark Elf raids are even mentioned in the Bret armybooks, probably because they weren't noticeable enough compared to the actual big threats. At this point you can argue that Vampire Coast is stronger than lizardmen, because it successfully raids them.

    Or maybe it is because Bretonia was not important enough to get 7th and 8th edition
    What would you say about the slaughtering of Grail Knights\Damsels by a Blood voyage and
    How big was the blood voyage? How many Grail Knights did they kill? How many dark elves died (probably a lot because they kill each other in the process apart from the battle losses). It was led by Hellebron, one of the main DE characters, did she face anyone of comparable rank? Vampire coast also manages to sack LM cities, doesn't make them anything more than raiders.

  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 31,184
    The problem with the DE lore is that it portrays them as cravens. Raiders, opportunists, backstabbers. What it doesn't portray them as is as a serious invasion force. Effectively guerrilla warfare. A tactic used by weaker forces to combat stronger forces. Given how vastly far they have to travel to do this it's not an effective strategy.

    So we can discard the DE, and the WE are isolationist hippies. It's the HE who are the only actual threat in this theoretical war. And the problem is they're a dying race. A dying race vs a thriving race is not a good combo.
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  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128

    The problem with the DE lore is that it portrays them as cravens. Raiders, opportunists, backstabbers. What it doesn't portray them as is as a serious invasion force. Effectively guerrilla warfare. A tactic used by weaker forces to combat stronger forces. Given how vastly far they have to travel to do this it's not an effective strategy.

    So we can discard the DE, and the WE are isolationist hippies. It's the HE who are the only actual threat in this theoretical war. And the problem is they're a dying race. A dying race vs a thriving race is not a good combo.

    there is a reason the DE have lost every single invasion even when they brought in chaos to support them
  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422
    edited August 30

    More lore blurbs of major characters vs nameless characters or even factions. And I'm gonna pull a dave here, with no references to how many forces were even involved on each side, context etc. None of the Dark Elf raids are even mentioned in the Bret armybooks, probably because they weren't noticeable enough compared to the actual big threats. At this point you can argue that Vampire Coast is stronger than lizardmen, because it successfully raids them.

    Or maybe it is because Bretonia was not important enough to get 7th and 8th edition
    What would you say about the slaughtering of Grail Knights\Damsels by a Blood voyage and
    How big was the blood voyage? How many Grail Knights did they kill? How many dark elves died (probably a lot because they kill each other in the process apart from the battle losses). It was led by Hellebron, one of the main DE characters, did she face anyone of comparable rank? Vampire coast also manages to sack LM cities, doesn't make them anything more than raiders.
    Enough to fill couldrons of blood

    In one of the lore blurbs it says on of the fleetmasters destroyed/looted an Empire fleet while Lokhir raided every single habbitat(towns/villiges) in Northen Ostland
    VCoast does have a better fleet than the LM

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422
    edited August 30

    The problem with the DE lore is that it portrays them as cravens. Raiders, opportunists, backstabbers. What it doesn't portray them as is as a serious invasion force. Effectively guerrilla warfare. A tactic used by weaker forces to combat stronger forces. Given how vastly far they have to travel to do this it's not an effective strategy.

    So we can discard the DE, and the WE are isolationist hippies. It's the HE who are the only actual threat in this theoretical war. And the problem is they're a dying race. A dying race vs a thriving race is not a good combo.

    there is a reason the DE have lost every single invasion even when they brought in chaos to support them
    Agains the HE who would be on their side . And they pretty succsefully took over Naggaroth dealing with pesky Norskan around

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128

    The problem with the DE lore is that it portrays them as cravens. Raiders, opportunists, backstabbers. What it doesn't portray them as is as a serious invasion force. Effectively guerrilla warfare. A tactic used by weaker forces to combat stronger forces. Given how vastly far they have to travel to do this it's not an effective strategy.

    So we can discard the DE, and the WE are isolationist hippies. It's the HE who are the only actual threat in this theoretical war. And the problem is they're a dying race. A dying race vs a thriving race is not a good combo.

    there is a reason the DE have lost every single invasion even when they brought in chaos to support them
    Agains the HE who would be on their side
    that isnt the point that was being raised and even then the high elfs do not have the number to win a conventional war
  • MadDemiurgMadDemiurg Registered Users Posts: 4,621
    edited August 30

    The problem with the DE lore is that it portrays them as cravens. Raiders, opportunists, backstabbers. What it doesn't portray them as is as a serious invasion force. Effectively guerrilla warfare. A tactic used by weaker forces to combat stronger forces. Given how vastly far they have to travel to do this it's not an effective strategy.

    So we can discard the DE, and the WE are isolationist hippies. It's the HE who are the only actual threat in this theoretical war. And the problem is they're a dying race. A dying race vs a thriving race is not a good combo.

    there is a reason the DE have lost every single invasion even when they brought in chaos to support them
    Agains the HE who would be on their side
    Well, they haven't invaded anyone else.

    More lore blurbs of major characters vs nameless characters or even factions. And I'm gonna pull a dave here, with no references to how many forces were even involved on each side, context etc. None of the Dark Elf raids are even mentioned in the Bret armybooks, probably because they weren't noticeable enough compared to the actual big threats. At this point you can argue that Vampire Coast is stronger than lizardmen, because it successfully raids them.

    Or maybe it is because Bretonia was not important enough to get 7th and 8th edition
    What would you say about the slaughtering of Grail Knights\Damsels by a Blood voyage and
    How big was the blood voyage? How many Grail Knights did they kill? How many dark elves died (probably a lot because they kill each other in the process apart from the battle losses). It was led by Hellebron, one of the main DE characters, did she face anyone of comparable rank? Vampire coast also manages to sack LM cities, doesn't make them anything more than raiders.
    Enough to fill couldrons of blood
    I
    n one of the lore blurbs it says on of the dudes destroyed/looted an Empire fleet while Lokhir raided every habbitat in Northen Ostland
    VCoast does have a better fleet than the LM
    All usual exaggerations. And if they indeed killed many Grail Knights, how many dark elves died to accomplish it? Since it doesn't seem to put even a slightest dent in Grail Knight population, does that mean that Bretonnia has massive numbers of Grail Knights? Empire armybook doesn't mention Lokhir either and they did have 8th edition so obviously no serious impact in history. He looted some trade ships, ok, that's what pirates do.

  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422

    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • MadDemiurgMadDemiurg Registered Users Posts: 4,621
    edited August 30


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.

  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 31,184
    The army book -A piece of propaganda- claiming minor victories for the race it represents isn't a big deal at all. Literally every army book does that.
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  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline


    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • MadDemiurgMadDemiurg Registered Users Posts: 4,621
    edited August 30
    I mean, things we objectively know about DE:

    HE > DE cause DE never manage to accomplish their goals against HE. Malekith only gets crowned in the ET because half the HE supported him, he would be boned otherwise.
    Norse tribes > DE when they actually invade in full force.
    Grimgor > Malekith, because he's da best.
    Ceiling also > Malekith, so to defeat him it's enough to lure him into an unstable building.

    What we don't know is would DE actually be able to invade and hold a territory of a major nation. With their numbers and track record, I wouldn't bet on it.

  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422

    I mean, things we objectively know about DE:

    HE > DE cause DE never manage to accomplish their goals against HE. Malekith only gets crowned in the ET because half the HE supported him, he would be boned otherwise.
    Norse tribes > DE when they actually invade in full force.
    Grimgor > Malekith, because he's da best.
    Ceiling also > Malekith, so to defeat him it's enough to lure him into an unstable building.

    What we don't know is would DE actually be able to invade and hold a territory of a major nation. With their numbers and track record, I wouldn't bet on it.

    Grimgor > Archeon but orkz have nothing to do here

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128

    I mean, things we objectively know about DE:

    HE > DE cause DE never manage to accomplish their goals against HE. Malekith only gets crowned in the ET because half the HE supported him, he would be boned otherwise.
    Norse tribes > DE when they actually invade in full force.
    Grimgor > Malekith, because he's da best.
    Ceiling also > Malekith, so to defeat him it's enough to lure him into an unstable building.

    What we don't know is would DE actually be able to invade and hold a territory of a major nation. With their numbers and track record, I wouldn't bet on it.

    Even in end times Mal leaves most of the dark elfs to die becasues he know they suck
  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
    I mean you claimed he was not Emperor at the time what do you want me to do?

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • MadDemiurgMadDemiurg Registered Users Posts: 4,621
    edited August 30

    I mean, things we objectively know about DE:

    HE > DE cause DE never manage to accomplish their goals against HE. Malekith only gets crowned in the ET because half the HE supported him, he would be boned otherwise.
    Norse tribes > DE when they actually invade in full force.
    Grimgor > Malekith, because he's da best.
    Ceiling also > Malekith, so to defeat him it's enough to lure him into an unstable building.

    What we don't know is would DE actually be able to invade and hold a territory of a major nation. With their numbers and track record, I wouldn't bet on it.

    Grimgor > Archeon but orkz have nothing to do here
    But ceilings do.

    Storm of Chaos is unfortunately not cannon.

  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
    I mean you claimed he was not Emperor at the time what do you want me to do?
    you could admit you were wrong because the thing you posted was from 1988 and then you are trying to back track to karl being relevant
  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422

    I mean, things we objectively know about DE:

    HE > DE cause DE never manage to accomplish their goals against HE. Malekith only gets crowned in the ET because half the HE supported him, he would be boned otherwise.
    Norse tribes > DE when they actually invade in full force.
    Grimgor > Malekith, because he's da best.
    Ceiling also > Malekith, so to defeat him it's enough to lure him into an unstable building.

    What we don't know is would DE actually be able to invade and hold a territory of a major nation. With their numbers and track record, I wouldn't bet on it.

    Grimgor > Archeon but orkz have nothing to do here
    But ceilings do.

    Storm of Chaos is unfortunately not cannon.
    I know prefer it over ET drivel though

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128
    Also gotta love that the dark elfs have never won a war. the Greenskins have a better tack record of success then the dark elves its amazing hell i think the beastmen have won wars lol
  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
    I mean you claimed he was not Emperor at the time what do you want me to do?
    you could admit you were wrong because the thing you posted was from 1988 and then you are trying to back track to karl being relevant
    Huh? You are confusing me
    Oh you are talking about the event from the empire book which was deemed sufficiently important in the Empire armynook unlike the one with Karl . Why are you mad at me for comparing them

    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
    I mean you claimed he was not Emperor at the time what do you want me to do?
    you could admit you were wrong because the thing you posted was from 1988 and then you are trying to back track to karl being relevant
    Huh? You are confusing me
    Oh you are talking about the event from the empire book which was deemed sufficiently important in the Empire armynook unlike the one with Karl . Why are you mad at me for comparing them
    i mean even then dude congrats he ambushed an army coming to the empires aid not the empire. not sure how thats made the fool of
  • HisShadowBGHisShadowBG Registered Users Posts: 3,422


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
    I mean you claimed he was not Emperor at the time what do you want me to do?
    you could admit you were wrong because the thing you posted was from 1988 and then you are trying to back track to karl being relevant
    Huh? You are confusing me
    Oh you are talking about the event from the empire book which was deemed sufficiently important in the Empire armynook unlike the one with Karl . Why are you mad at me for comparing them
    i mean even then dude congrats he ambushed an army coming to the empires aid not the empire. not sure how thats made the fool of
    Sorry for posting it again


    She had fought beside Aenarion in the days of her youth, killing daemons, slaughtering the enemies of her people with wild abandon. She had cast spells and brewed poisons and worked out battle strategies for his armies. She had used her gift of visions to grant the elves victories innumerable.

    The so-called high elves had forgotten that now, preferring to cast her as the villain in the simple-minded morality plays they so enjoyed since her son had sundered the realm. They had no idea what it had cost to win those battles back when all thought the world was ending, or the price she had paid for victory.
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 31,184


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
    I mean you claimed he was not Emperor at the time what do you want me to do?
    you could admit you were wrong because the thing you posted was from 1988 and then you are trying to back track to karl being relevant
    Huh? You are confusing me
    Oh you are talking about the event from the empire book which was deemed sufficiently important in the Empire armynook unlike the one with Karl . Why are you mad at me for comparing them
    i mean even then dude congrats he ambushed an army coming to the empires aid not the empire. not sure how thats made the fool of
    Sorry for posting it again

    Yes. They did a trick that doesn't work in this scenario and only managed to force a retreat even with every possible advantage.
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  • Coldrage20Coldrage20 Registered Users Posts: 128


    Guess this was very important\big event then.

    Yep, the biggest event is dark elves slaughtering some town and fleeing. That's not Lokhir btw cause different time, so he didn't deserve a mention.
    Guess Karl Frranz being made a fool is too much bad press
    karl wasnt emporer yet lol dont even know your timeline

    ah yes so you have to back tack to something posted hours ago to make it relevant ic
    I mean you claimed he was not Emperor at the time what do you want me to do?
    you could admit you were wrong because the thing you posted was from 1988 and then you are trying to back track to karl being relevant
    Huh? You are confusing me
    Oh you are talking about the event from the empire book which was deemed sufficiently important in the Empire armynook unlike the one with Karl . Why are you mad at me for comparing them
    i mean even then dude congrats he ambushed an army coming to the empires aid not the empire. not sure how thats made the fool of
    Sorry for posting it again

    Yes once again they ambushed an army to help them and then did the same thing. 1 doesnt make a fool out of anyone it was another ambush, 2 still irrelevant to bring up after your 1988 raid post. 3 since again shows that the dark elves cant fight and only win with ambushes. I mean for real dude the wood elves do better then this and they dont have to resort to gurrila warfare all the time ironically enough the Spartan elfs do tho
  • BlacedBlaced Registered Users Posts: 1,498
    Many examples of Elves win against humans, but they are most minor battles and sacking/robbing, in a total war Elves have no chance, how many Empire territories long time captured by Dark Elves, and keep in mind all out war means including Eastern human, Cathay, Nippon, Ind
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