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Love the Cathay units,especially those soldiers with neck armour and those large dragon head cannons.Only thing that I didn't like that much is the new LL,so far the weakest one that is introduced in game 3.
Just to clarify a discussion point in here from the FAQ.
I'm certainly NOT suggesting the Celestial Dragon Emperor is on a power level equal to the Chaos Gods. But he and his wife are extremely powerful and comparable to most regional gods of the world, such as Ulric or Myrmidia for example.
Just clarify a discussion point in here from the FAQ.
I'm certainly NOT suggesting the Celestial Dragon Emperor is on a power level equal to the Chaos Gods. But he and his wife are extremely powerful and comparable to most regional gods of the world, such as Ulric or Myrmidia for example.
Thanks for clearing that up for the folks with reading comprehension issues.
Just clarify a discussion point in here from the FAQ.
I'm certainly NOT suggesting the Celestial Dragon Emperor is on a power level equal to the Chaos Gods. But he and his wife are extremely powerful and comparable to most regional gods of the world, such as Ulric or Myrmidia for example.
Toddbringer crying in a corner as he hear this Ulric slander
Love the look of Tzeentch, Chaos Warriors on Discs now damn
they're literally models ripped right off chaos knights. They look awful and I hope they're place holders.
Request scorched body textures, poisoned dying animations for infantry's skeletons, a blood slider that allows us to control how much blood appears in battle and make proper death animations for all ethereal units so they vanish for Blood for the Blood God 3.
The Emperor and his sons and daughters who rule the kingdom. Anyone who expected few Cathayan DLCs must now surely see the error of their ways. We won’t see game 1 or 2 races for a while as expected.
Just to clarify a discussion point in here from the FAQ.
I'm certainly NOT suggesting the Celestial Dragon Emperor is on a power level equal to the Chaos Gods. But he and his wife are extremely powerful and comparable to most regional gods of the world, such as Ulric or Myrmidia for example.
That part of the lore is the worst part of the reveal. Everything else looked pretty good, but we haven't had any gods take part in Warhammer beyond their avatars, daemons or mortal servants. Really disappointing lore to have, and just screams Age of Sigmar nonsense.
Just to clarify a discussion point in here from the FAQ.
I'm certainly NOT suggesting the Celestial Dragon Emperor is on a power level equal to the Chaos Gods. But he and his wife are extremely powerful and comparable to most regional gods of the world, such as Ulric or Myrmidia for example.
Age of Sigmar nonsense.
What does this phrase even mean?
Oh right, this is fantasy, so everything I don't like is AOS and AOS is everything I don't like.
Ranking of all Total War games I've played: 1. Three kingdoms 2. Shogun 2 3. Warhammer 4. Medieval 2 5. Thrones 6. Attila 7. Rome 2 8. Napoleon 9. Empire 10. Troy (haven't actually played it, I'm just still salty)
Just to clarify a discussion point in here from the FAQ.
I'm certainly NOT suggesting the Celestial Dragon Emperor is on a power level equal to the Chaos Gods. But he and his wife are extremely powerful and comparable to most regional gods of the world, such as Ulric or Myrmidia for example.
That part of the lore is the worst part of the reveal. Everything else looked pretty good, but we haven't had any gods take part in Warhammer beyond their avatars, daemons or mortal servants. Really disappointing lore to have, and just screams Age of Sigmar nonsense.
It merely explains why Cathay were usually able to see off Chais invasions on their lonesome. Nothing to see here.
Oh right, this is fantasy, so everything I don't like is AOS and AOS is everything I don't like.
Basically what it means is that it is far too high fantasy and uses magic as a solution for everything, and even has literal gods in the world. Warhammer never really did that. Its human factions especially were relatively grounded with some bizarre elements thrown in, but even the use of magic has its limitations and issues. We now have a literal god in the world that conjures up a magical Great Bastion to protect the land. It's far too much power, far too much magic, and its nonsense when compared to the rest of the setting.
You guys have some of the greatest artists in this planet. Jesus crist the asthetics of every single trailer you make is incredible. This time thought i dropped down of my chair. Clapping for you guys.
Why are people salting over Cathay getting their own gods? This was obviously going to happen when they announced them.
Yeah, and to be honest, a part of me expected the Dragons to fill that role.
It's just that.... it feels strange to suddenly have the Dragon Emperor fill that role.
And I think the comparison with Chaos Gods is largely misplaced or misrepresentative and just bad writing rather than an accurate statement.
In IRL "mythology" if you will, the closest thing to an overarching "god" who leads everyone else is the Jade Emperor. He is the one that Sun Wukong screws with at the beginning of Journey to the West if you are unfamilliar with him otherwise.
Basically what CA/GW has done is uplift the Dragon Emperor from just the leader of Cathay to the role of Jade Emperor who rules over heaven and all that stuff.
Fighting a new chaos faction like it was always going to be, suggestions otherwise were pretty eye roll worthy. Kinda thought it might be Tzeench but wasn't 100% on it.
Retconning of Cathay, yeah they did that. I 100% don't care. Cathay was a negligible field note buried in a vast host of books that nobody would remotely know unless they read something curated by someone who could assemble it. Cathay was always going to come out looking a lil bit different in my opinion. And this gives it a lil more than a near textbook fantasy china.
Also, GW has retconned the world so many many many many times. The entire basis of the game has been rewritten, factions split up and given unique lore, leaders deposed or ignored, race actions boosted or dulled, whole events just completely thrown out. So, once more a minor footnote in the GW world getting a retcon with their actual debut into something meaty? Practically expected. Getting miffed over that is effectively pointless and nitpicky.
Seems to be a bit disappointing numbers for so called the most anticipated TWW3 race.
Warhammer fantasy fanbase will never be nearly as big as 40k's fanbase. Sad but true.
No, i also dislike Garth Ennis. He is very juvenile and raunchy, and some of his statements are utterly ridiculous, like Captain America being offensive to WWII veterans when his co-creator, Jack Kirby, served in the war and soldiers liked his stories.
If you think using your abilities to help and inspire people is childish, then i feel sorry for you.
I know some part of the lore but about Cathay close to zero. So anyone enlighten me what part of the lore is now not really accurate anymore?
Well first of all, that there have been multiple Dragon Emperors. And by proxy, a large number of interactions that those Dragon Emperors had and their own lore. And, of course, the Dragon Emperor being that strong and living in a Celestial City.
Second of all, now GW/CA is pulling this bit about Yin and Yang which, from what I gather, was not something that Cathay was capable of. Those terms were apparently different terms for High and Dark magic, but not something Cathay was able to wield, iirc. Now they're separate lores of magic, apparently.
Probably some other things but, we're gonna have to see how things flesh out.
Yeah you’re right it’s a total retcon.
I’m assuming the new canon is probably that the various named ‘Dragon Emperors’ in all the past lore blurbs were actually children of the true emperor who seem to be various regional rulers, but misinterpreted in universe as more of the lore is told from an Empire-centric PoV.
Will be interesting to see if the Monkey King still appears in a Lord pack or if we’ll just get ‘generic dragon regional ruler no 3’ etc.
On the Ying and Yang, the bit on the GW website mentions high magic but also says their main spellcasters are astromancers and alchemists.
Might be the dragon children are using high and dark magic but the humans are using lores of heavens and metal?
Wonderful trailer, now Cathay is one of my favorite races. Cathay is exactly what I wanted to be, ruled by dragons shapeshifters, the only thing I didn't see coming was Dragon Emperor turned into God and not be playable as LL.
new Undead Legion Nagash, The Nameless, Dieter Helsnicht and Undead Hag or Dragon Empress LL (kislev or cathay mortach).
MONOBLOODLINES: /Necrachs:Zacharias, Melkhior, Radu the forsaken /Strigoi:Ushoran, Vorag, The Black Prince, Rametep /Blood Dragon:Red Duke, Walach Harkon, Abhorash /Lahmia:zNeferata, Nitocris, Ulrika, Naaima Tomb Kings: Apophas (Craddles of Serpents (new race)) Ind+Amazons+Kuresh Together /Fishmen and Sea ElvesFishmen with a few Sea Elves. Ogre Kingdoms with gut magic and a Gnobblar LL
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1. Three kingdoms
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2 · 1Disagree 2AgreeFighting a new chaos faction like it was always going to be, suggestions otherwise were pretty eye roll worthy. Kinda thought it might be Tzeench but wasn't 100% on it.
Retconning of Cathay, yeah they did that. I 100% don't care. Cathay was a negligible field note buried in a vast host of books that nobody would remotely know unless they read something curated by someone who could assemble it. Cathay was always going to come out looking a lil bit different in my opinion. And this gives it a lil more than a near textbook fantasy china.
Also, GW has retconned the world so many many many many times. The entire basis of the game has been rewritten, factions split up and given unique lore, leaders deposed or ignored, race actions boosted or dulled, whole events just completely thrown out. So, once more a minor footnote in the GW world getting a retcon with their actual debut into something meaty? Practically expected. Getting miffed over that is effectively pointless and nitpicky.
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeI’m assuming the new canon is probably that the various named ‘Dragon Emperors’ in all the past lore blurbs were actually children of the true emperor who seem to be various regional rulers, but misinterpreted in universe as more of the lore is told from an Empire-centric PoV.
Will be interesting to see if the Monkey King still appears in a Lord pack or if we’ll just get ‘generic dragon regional ruler no 3’ etc.
On the Ying and Yang, the bit on the GW website mentions high magic but also says their main spellcasters are astromancers and alchemists.
Might be the dragon children are using high and dark magic but the humans are using lores of heavens and metal?
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/Strigoi:Ushoran, Vorag, The Black Prince, Rametep
/Blood Dragon:Red Duke, Walach Harkon, Abhorash
/Lahmia:zNeferata, Nitocris, Ulrika, Naaima
Tomb Kings: Apophas
(Craddles of Serpents (new race)) Ind+Amazons+Kuresh Together
/Fishmen and Sea ElvesFishmen with a few Sea Elves.
Ogre Kingdoms with gut magic and a Gnobblar LL
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