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Staunch line of acolytes of Tzeentch presents

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  • PedePede Registered Users Posts: 1,839
    #JusticeForTzeentch!
    #JusticeForMonogods

  • Reeks#2417Reeks#2417 Registered Users Posts: 9,980
    Pede said:

    #JusticeForTzeentch!
    #JusticeForMonogods


    Actually made a user on that cesspool

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  • capybarasiesta89capybarasiesta89 Senior Member Edinburgh, ScotlandRegistered Users Posts: 5,419
    Pede said:

    #JusticeForTzeentch!
    #JusticeForMonogods

    Absolutely got you there! Justice for all!
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  • NeodeinosNeodeinos Registered Users Posts: 15,537
    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.
  • IamNotArobotIamNotArobot Registered Users Posts: 5,739
    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    what is a strawmen? Scarecrows?
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  • HeresyHoundHeresyHound Registered Users Posts: 8,285
    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    I mean there have been plenty of people on reddit complaining about people complaining. Which I am complaining about.
  • WyvaxWyvax Registered Users Posts: 6,063

    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    what is a strawmen? Scarecrows?
    Yes, but actually no. It's a logical fallacy. You set up an argument that looks superficially similar to an opponents argument but has none of it's actual points or nuances then proceed to tear it to pieces and claim victory in the debate. The name is analogy of beating up a scarecrow (a flimsy imitation of a man) yet claiming you beat up an actual flesh and blood man instead.
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  • Kn_Gars#2718Kn_Gars#2718 Registered Users Posts: 3,231

    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    what is a strawmen? Scarecrows?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

    In very simple terms you attack something your opponent never said/wrote rather than the actual argument.
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  • Kn_Gars#2718Kn_Gars#2718 Registered Users Posts: 3,231
    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    The hype was at fever pitch back then, now with the delay there is not nearly as much hype and people are also better at spotting all the flaws which keep adding up. There may still be a memebased counter-attack as the more fanatical CA fan boys rally but it will not be so easy this time. I would say that the Tzeentch reveal video and roster blog will be the critical point where a real backlash can start if looks like Chaos is done on the cheap in a way that even the more casual fans notice and dislike. (Like it or not we hardcore fans don't count in practice, too few and too easily dismissed.)
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  • Lunaticprince#9972Lunaticprince#9972 Registered Users Posts: 6,723
    edited September 2021
    KN_Gars said:

    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    The hype was at fever pitch back then, now with the delay there is not nearly as much hype and people are also better at spotting all the flaws which keep adding up. There may still be a memebased counter-attack as the more fanatical CA fan boys rally but it will not be so easy this time. I would say that the Tzeentch reveal video and roster blog will be the critical point where a real backlash can start if looks like Chaos is done on the cheap in a way that even the more casual fans notice and dislike. (Like it or not we hardcore fans don't count in practice, too few and too easily dismissed.)
    I kinda would laugh so much if chaos get improved by the power of memes
    Post edited by Lunaticprince#9972 on


  • Eye_of_SauronEye_of_Sauron Registered Users Posts: 390
    I hate all those freaks who keep saying "who cares? Mods will fix them so shut up".

    Like imagine if their favorite race comes and it has a plethora of old, copy/pasted models of a 6 years old race with just different colour.
    Wanna see them saying "mods will fix it"...
    #JusticeForTzeentch #TzeentchLivesMatter #JusticeForMonogods


  • HeresyHoundHeresyHound Registered Users Posts: 8,285

    I hate all those freaks who keep saying "who cares? Mods will fix them so shut up".

    Like imagine if their favorite race comes and it has a plethora of old, copy/pasted models of a 6 years old race with just different colour.
    Wanna see them saying "mods will fix it"...

    I will be honest, I'm still kinda annoyed that CA just put Dire Wolves with 0 changes into the Coast as the Scurvy Dogs. They could at least add some seaweed textures like with the Terrorgheist. I don't think undead wolves and drowned hounds should look identical.
  • Spellbound1875#4610Spellbound1875#4610 Registered Users Posts: 1,894
    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    The sled criticism was a lot more subjective and some people (myself included) really just didn't hate the idea of magical ice being used in place of runners. The Tzeentch warriors lacking distinctive Tzeentch iconography is a pretty objective criticism and the counter arguments don't hold water because the Khorne Warriors are all clearly distinct from WoC models.

    Frankly the Kislev criticisms were just less substantive and so more people just didn't feel the same way, whereas even if you take the stance that the Tzeentch warriors are WIP you'll still acknowledge that they need to be changed before release. They just aren't the same situation and Redditors being real people and not corporate shills recognized that.
  • MaelasMaelas Registered Users Posts: 5,180
    The funny thing is that modders have already done Tzeentch warriors exactly like CA did !
  • Lunaticprince#9972Lunaticprince#9972 Registered Users Posts: 6,723
    edited September 2021
    Maelas said:

    The funny thing is that modders have already done Tzeentch warriors exactly like CA did !

    they did them better...

    What kinda is funny because they just mixed assets, only unique warrior we have from the modding side are some khorne heroes and demons.


  • Commissar_GCommissar_G Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 15,766
    You won't convince me spawn are worth wasting resources on. They didn't even need to be recoloured. A spawn is a spawn. The current model already fit the rosters perfectly.
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  • MaelasMaelas Registered Users Posts: 5,180

    You won't convince me spawn are worth wasting resources on. They didn't even need to be recoloured. A spawn is a spawn. The current model already fit the rosters perfectly.

    Yeah, Chaos Spawns, Warhounds and Forsakens being recolored is alright and quite enough, but I do wonder one thing : why did CA use beastmen spawns instead of WoC spawns !
  • HeresyHoundHeresyHound Registered Users Posts: 8,285
    Maelas said:

    You won't convince me spawn are worth wasting resources on. They didn't even need to be recoloured. A spawn is a spawn. The current model already fit the rosters perfectly.

    Yeah, Chaos Spawns, Warhounds and Forsakens being recolored is alright and quite enough, but I do wonder one thing : why did CA use beastmen spawns instead of WoC spawns !
    Cause they have horns and make it slightly more Khorne-y and kinda go with the Minotaurs.
  • IamNotArobotIamNotArobot Registered Users Posts: 5,739
    Wyvax said:

    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    what is a strawmen? Scarecrows?
    Yes, but actually no. It's a logical fallacy. You set up an argument that looks superficially similar to an opponents argument but has none of it's actual points or nuances then proceed to tear it to pieces and claim victory in the debate. The name is analogy of beating up a scarecrow (a flimsy imitation of a man) yet claiming you beat up an actual flesh and blood man instead.
    KN_Gars said:

    Neodeinos said:

    I never thought I'd see so many posts about it on Reddit. I expected the criticism to be buried by strawmen disguised as memes just like the criticism about the Kislev sleds.

    what is a strawmen? Scarecrows?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

    In very simple terms you attack something your opponent never said/wrote rather than the actual argument.
    oh thanks! Now I knowz
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    *Exclusive DLCs for Tomb Kings, Vampire Coast, BM, CW and WE! #DLCsAreRacesToo
    *Remaster all WH1 and WH2 faction icons for WH3!
    *Ogre Kingdoms core race or death!
    *Bring back settlement conquering artworks!
    *Gnoblar Carpet for Greesus
    *Improve UI


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