Ditches and moats on sieges

SusaVile#9835

Following the siege rework, I am definitely very happy with the choices made.

However, would like to know the forums' opinion.

Would moats and ditches be a a nice addition?

I was thinking on using the same idea of the supplies on sieges, and you could invest those into creating some ditches and moats, to force the attacker into different avenues of attack. Or to force them to fill in those ditches to be able to send a ladder or siege tower or battering ram to them. It could even be something only infantry could do, granting them yet another role.



This after viewing how much this gentleman spoke about that, it really made me realize how easy those are and how effective as well. Would be a nice overall addition to total war, although I am unsure how lorewise it would be.

Red_Dox#2328

Ditches and Moats you say? Those are technically to advanced for most races. Except Orcs, since everyone knows green is best.


------Red Dox

Rob18446

They wouldn't be terrible but they'd also male the outer wall fight even more of a slog fest.

mdgh1991#3091

I would love it.

Have you played "stronghold" series? I wish I could see some elements from that series in TWWH. Digging moat in front of walls to prevent attacker using ladders/siege equipments is a good thing.

Stacks_Lee

I think ditches or some other terrain "hazard" would be a good addition outside the walls. One of the issues with defending walls is how fast the attackers can close the distance. Obstacles like ditches that give a hefty speed debuff would allow the defender's ranged units and artillery to do more damage during the approach.

sykall#1105

The more siege options the better.

I'd like moats and dikes and wooden pallisades and trenches and tarpits and murderholes and tunnels to destroy the walls and wooden walls for attackers and (insert any other siege equiptment or tool for attackers/defenders).

Maybe future TW can truly take a notch of stronghold or other historic siege techniques.

Serkelet#1834

It would certainly be great. I'm all for it. Will CA do it at this point? Maaaybe for the remake of the Warhammer trilogy 20 years from now.

T_MACCABBEE

Yes definitely.
The stronghold games for example, made it hard to reach the walls because your troops had to fill the moats with soil first and they would be getting shot at while they did.
This would really cause you to think twice when besieging settlements.

SusaVile#9835

mdgh1991 said:

I would love it.

Have you played "stronghold" series? I wish I could see some elements from that series in TWWH. Digging moat in front of walls to prevent attacker using ladders/siege equipments is a good thing.

No, sadly, the latest I have seen of a use of a moat was (don't laugh) on Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and Lords of the Realm 2 (I am old...)

saweendra#3399

SusaVile said:

mdgh1991 said:

I would love it.

Have you played "stronghold" series? I wish I could see some elements from that series in TWWH. Digging moat in front of walls to prevent attacker using ladders/siege equipments is a good thing.

No, sadly, the latest I have seen of a use of a moat was (don't laugh) on Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and Lords of the Realm 2 (I am old...)

Heros of might and magic three was great , the rest that followed it was meh