Non-Ogre units should not consume Meat

TheWattman#7460

Im trying out Ogres for the first time now and so far it has been pretty peaceful actually. Allying with most tribes, expecting later confederations and now up north preparing to take out Kairos and the tribes up there. Playing Ogres is fun! Great roster and great mechanics. Although the meat mechanic I think should be adressed in future updates.

Like for example, Gnoblars don't have the same overpowering need for meat and such like Ogres have. Nor have the Sabretusks, even though they are carnivores by nature. While it is understandable to have a need for meat in Ogre armies, I feel like this should be kept to actual Ogre-including units to be counted as meat-consumers. And the current meat-bonuses from buildings and such could be tweaked to lower settings to make it just the same challenge to keep your armies fed and happy.

What do you guys think?

#568367

It's a possibility if ogres ever prove to be way underpowered, but that isn't the case atm.


Plus, maybe there's like, a lot of ogres and Sabretusks to feed.

busbee247#5862

do allegiance units consume meat? i havent checked but it would be funny if you got some jade warriors that now demand meat

DarthEnderX-#6513

epic_162578572945FgdWSzp said:

do allegiance units consume meat? i havent checked but it would be funny if you got some jade warriors that now demand meat

They don't demand meat. It's just the only thing Ogres pay with. They have to convert the meat to gold at the market.

busbee247#5862

DarthEnderX said:

epic_162578572945FgdWSzp said:

do allegiance units consume meat? i havent checked but it would be funny if you got some jade warriors that now demand meat

They don't demand meat. It's just the only thing Ogres pay with. They have to convert the meat to gold at the market.

idk pretty sure ogres are paying upkeep in gold

GoldfishLord#2862

epic_162578572945FgdWSzp said:

DarthEnderX said:

epic_162578572945FgdWSzp said:

do allegiance units consume meat? i havent checked but it would be funny if you got some jade warriors that now demand meat

They don't demand meat. It's just the only thing Ogres pay with. They have to convert the meat to gold at the market.

idk pretty sure ogres are paying upkeep in gold

Pretty sure he was joking but just in case: the name isn't Greasus Meattooth

Nyxilis#3646

Let them eat cake.

saweendra#3399

preach

CountTalabecland#2471

Once you get enough camps and battles rolling the meat mechanic becomes pointless. It can supremely **** you over with attrition in the early game but I am at turn 90 and all my armies have 300 meat all the time because of camps and Cathay feeding them 4 stacks of its soldiers every turn because Cathay is apparently taking casualty figures from the Imperial Guard.

TheWattman#7460

GreenColoured said:

It's a possibility if ogres ever prove to be way underpowered, but that isn't the case atm.


Plus, maybe there's like, a lot of ogres and Sabretusks to feed.

But should a 20 stack hypothetically made of only Gnoblars demand Meat like a 20 stack of only Ogres?

busbee247#5862

TheWattman said:

GreenColoured said:

It's a possibility if ogres ever prove to be way underpowered, but that isn't the case atm.


Plus, maybe there's like, a lot of ogres and Sabretusks to feed.

But should a 20 stack hypothetically made of only Gnoblars demand Meat like a 20 stack of only Ogres?

i mean 19 units of gnoblars are a lot more models than 19 units of ironguts

Heretical_Cactus#7598

epic_162578572945FgdWSzp said:

do allegiance units consume meat? i havent checked but it would be funny if you got some jade warriors that now demand meat

They cost meat because you need to feed the nearby Ogre more to avoid them munching on the allies

manpersal#3961

Vegan gnoblars and sabretusks is the way!

Kapika96

As a non-Ogre this sounds kind of like a challenge. Could I eat as much meat as an Ogre does and therefore prove that I deserve my meat upkeep, or not? Only one way to find out!

babale

I'd say we should have 1 meat upkeep on ogres, 0 on gnoblars, 1 on small monsters like sabertusks, and 2 or more on big monsters like the heavy cav. Maybe even 3 for the huge monsters like the Stonehorn.

55JoNNo

I was pretty sure Gnoblars would not consume meat, seemed logical. A bit like the Bretonnia peasant cap system but in reverse.

#568367

TheWattman said:

GreenColoured said:

It's a possibility if ogres ever prove to be way underpowered, but that isn't the case atm.


Plus, maybe there's like, a lot of ogres and Sabretusks to feed.

But should a 20 stack hypothetically made of only Gnoblars demand Meat like a 20 stack of only Ogres?

I mean, a single unit of Gnoblars FAR outnumber a single ogre unit