Creative Assembly shot themselves in the foot on what should have been a slam-dunk

adjung#7086

Not only did they release a game with a small campaign that is even worse than the previous small campaign. They also released it in such a broken state that Mortal Empires takes significantly longer than last time, while running on the same old slow patch policy.

But my longest standing gripe for Warhammer 3 is with their small settlement overhaul. It just does not feel right that the daemon races would start building defensive positions, towers and walls - I get it, they are hybrid races and have mortal followers, but they are still a possessed, unrestrained force of destruction first and foremost. They should only have defensive siege defense battles in their province capitals, and those need to be way more thematic.

I am not saying to abolish buildings - just give us open field battles over minor settlements if they belong to daemons. Keep tower defense for everyone else, if you must. But those open field battles are a strong, universally liked feature of the game (well, if autoresolve starts working properly again one day).

Tennisgolfboll#5877

Wh3 is a disaster. Overhaul needed

HarveyJames#1968

cos people played WoC faction and horde factions in general suck without some sort of settlement controls

General_Hijalti#1213

Chaos builds and occupies fortresses so it's right.

Eldrick#6807

Yep, CA failed big time with this release. Five years of planning, production, player feedback and QA, and they stuffed up royally.

Still, their pre-order policy almost certainly made the game a great financial success. Reinvesting those profits back in to fixing the game might save some face, but overall I think there will be quite a tarnished reputation going forward for all their future games.

A real shame I feel, most likely influenced by decisions (or non decisions) made at an executive level.

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Hordes suck. Hence settlements.

Ez.

alpharender33#2889

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Hordes suck. Hence settlements.

Ez.

Hordes are awesome, more Horde factions pls!

Processing#6286

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Hordes suck. Hence settlements.

Ez.

Beatsmen were solved kinda well. If they weren't so OP, it would be perfect.

Pocman#6295

Tennisgolfboll said:

Wh3 is a disaster. Overhaul needed

No, it is not.

I am even enjoying my second campaign (not really the second, more like the 10th, but this is the second that i expect ending) more than the first.

WH3 has a lot of excellent qualities, with some minor easily solvable issues and some questionable design choices that could easily be solved too.

#1609

Same for me. The game works, and I enjoy my 3rd campaign. It it still a little too limited, DLC and especially IE will make it better.
But game is not a failure. It is just different. If you keep trying to play it as ME or Vortex, it won't work well.
If you want to play Game 2 instead of Game 3... well... Go back to game 2. Or wait for IE.

#902441

You should take this as a moral lesson.

1 - Never pre-order.
2 - Never purchase a CA game on date of release.
3 - YouTube content creators are bought and paid for and will not/cannot criticise the game.
4 - Games journalists are not even the same level as the ones who work for your local paper, and probably never played the game they reviewed and gave 9/10.

Fingolfin_the-Golden#2157

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Arsenic said:

You should take this as a moral lesson.

1 - Never pre-order.
2 - Never purchase a CA game on date of release.
3 - YouTube content creators are bought and paid for and will not/cannot criticise the game.
4 - Games journalists are not even the same level as the ones who work for your local paper, and probably never played the game they reviewed and gave 9/10.

I like to buy day 1 everything tw Warhammer related.
It’s not a morality lesson, but customer preference. Same as when I buy anything, I buy it because I want it.

Crossil#2134

Processing said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Hordes suck. Hence settlements.

Ez.

Beatsmen were solved kinda well. If they weren't so OP, it would be perfect.

One issue with the Beastmen, however, is that the AI is too **** to stay alive. Like, even in the case of them gaining a settlement, they usually only hold onto that, and are an occasional nuisance to everyone around them. And CA has not fixed that yet.

But yeah, the mechanics are stupidly boring and overpowered.

Tennisgolfboll#5877

Pocman said:

Tennisgolfboll said:

Wh3 is a disaster. Overhaul needed

No, it is not.

I am even enjoying my second campaign (not really the second, more like the 10th, but this is the second that i expect ending) more than the first.

WH3 has a lot of excellent qualities, with some minor easily solvable issues and some questionable design choices that could easily be solved too.

Yes. Yes it is. Overhaul needed.

#1609

I pre ordered and don't regret it.

Warlord_Lu_Bu#2268

Once Again.

davedave1124#4773

Arsenic said:

You should take this as a moral lesson.

1 - Never pre-order.
2 - Never purchase a CA game on date of release.
3 - YouTube content creators are bought and paid for and will not/cannot criticise the game.
4 - Games journalists are not even the same level as the ones who work for your local paper, and probably never played the game they reviewed and gave 9/10.

1. I make my own retail decisions
2. I did and I'm still playing as well as saving myself £9.99
3. Youtube creators often criticise the game
4. To much of a general point

LegendaryArticuno#9965

I got burned with 3K, and hopefully CA took a huge reputation hit for dropping all support.

And now I got ripped off with WH3 with it being a rushed mess. Learned my lesson twice, CA is not a trustworthy dev house.