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Famous Quotes From Rome Total War. Which is your Favourite?

King of CarthageKing of Carthage MemberPosts: 41Registered Users
edited June 2012 in Rome: Total War
By Aeschylus
I think the slain care little if they sleep or rise again.
A people's voice is dangerous when charged with wrath.
In war, truth is the first casualty.
By Aristotle
War, as the saying goes, is full of false alarms
We make war so that we may live in peace
The wise man speaks because he has something to say, the fool because he has to say something
By Cicero
The sinews of war are infinite money.
Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home.
Silent enim leges inter arma (Laws are silent in times of war).



Danger gleams like sunshine to a brave man's eyes.
The god of war hates those who hesitate.
A large army is always disorderly.
By Julius Caesar
War gives the right of the conquerors to impose any conditions they please upon the vanquished.
Veni, vidi, vici (I came, I saw, I conquered).
In war important events result from trivial causes.
Alea iacta est (The die is cast).
By Hermocrates
The true contempt of an invader is shown by deeds of valour in the field.
When there is mutual fear, men think twice before they make aggression upon one another.
They have an abundance of gold and silver, and these make war, like other things, go smoothly.
Nobody is driven in to war by ignorance, and no one who thinks he will gain anything from it is deterred by fear.
By Herodotus
In peace, sons bury their fathers; in war, fathers bury their sons.
Far better it is to have a stout heart always and suffer one's share of evils, than to be ever fearing what may happen.
By Hippocrates
War is the only proper school of the surgeon.
By Homer
Even the bravest cannot fight beyond his strength.
Ye gods, what dastards would our host command? Swept to the war, the lumber of the land.
Noble and manly music invigorates the spirit, strengthens the wavering man, and incites him to great and worthy deeds.
He serves me most, who serves his country best.
To those that flee comes neither power nor glory.
Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing sooner than war.
The blade itself incites to violence.
So ends the bloody business of the day.
A glorious death is his who for his country falls.
By Horace
Adversity reveals the genius of a general; good fortune conceals it.
A wise man in times of peace prepares for war.
Bella detesta matribus (Wars are the dread of mothers).
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori (It is a sweet and seemly thing to die for one's country).
Quae caret ora cruore nostro? (What coast knows not our blood?)
By Livy
To a good general luck is important.
The outcome corresponds less to expectations in war than in any other case whatsoever.
Vae victis (Woe to the vanquished).
By Ovid
The gods favour the bold.
Fas est et ab hoste doceri (It is right to learn, even from the enemy).
By Pericles
I am more afraid of our own mistakes than of our enemies' designs.
Men of Athens, I do not have much time for exhortation, but to the brave a few words are as good as many...
By Plato
The rulers of the State are the only ones who should have the privilege of lying.
Every care must be taken that our auxiliaries, being stronger than our citizens, may not grow too much for them and become sa***e beasts.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
By Plautus
Ah, yes, mere infantry - poor beggars...
The valiant profit more their country than the finest, cleverest speakers.
Victi vincimus (Conquered, we conquer).
By Polybius
A good general not only sees the way to victory, he also knows when victory is impossible.
In war we must always leave room for strokes of fortune, and accidents that cannot be foreseen.
By Publilius Syrus
The cruelty of war makes for peace.
Pardon one offence and you encourage the commission of many.
We should provide in peace what we need in war.
Necessity knows no law except to conquer.
It is a bad plan that cannot be altered.
He is best secure from dangers who is on his guard even when he seems safe.
By Seneca the Younger
If a man does not know to what port he is sailing, no wind is favourable.
The fortunes of war are always doubtful.
Constant exposure to dangers will breed contempt for them.
By Sophocles
Quick decisions are unsafe decisions.
It is the brave man's part to live with glory, or with glory die.
By Sun Tzu
All warfare is based on deception.
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious.
Generally management of the many is the same as management of the few. It is a matter of organization.
In war, numbers alone confer no advantage. Do not advance relying on sheer military power.
By Tacitus
Even the bravest are frightened by sudden terrors.
The proper arts of a general are judgement and prudence.
A bad peace is even worse than war.
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.
Valour is the contempt of death and pain.
Great empires are not maintained by timidity.
They make a solitude and call it peace.
By Thucydides
War is not so much a matter of weapons as of money.
A collision at sea can ruin your entire day.
Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
The strong did what they could, and the weak suffered what they must.
By Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Few men are born brave; many become so through training and force of discipline.
A general is not easily overcome who can form a true judgement of his own and the enemy's forces.
What can a soldier do who charges when out of breath?
Valour is superior to numbers.
Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum (Let him who desires peace prepare for war).
An ambush, if discovered and promptly surrounded, will repay the intended mischief with interest.
An adversary is more hurt by desertion than by slaughter.
We die today not only for our friends and family but for our gods and for our forefathers and men before them so pray to them to make us victorious
By Virgil
Bella, horida bella (Wars, horrid wars!)
Let all be present and expect the palm, the prize of victory.
By Xenophon
When one side goes against the enemy with the gods' gift of stronger morale, then their adversaries, as a rule, cannot withstand them.
Willing obedience always beats forced obedience.
Miscellaneous
Brave men are a city's strongest tower of defence - Alcaeus
Against danger it pays to be prepared - Aesop
The Spartans do not ask how many but where they are - Agis II of Sparta
A dead enemy always smells good - Alus Vitellus
War spares not the brave but the cowardly - Anacreon
It is the noblest and safest thing for a great army to be visibly animated by one spirit - Archidamus of Sparta
Ah! The generals! They are numerous but not good for much! - Aristophanes
If a man does not strike first, he will be the first struck - Athenagoras of Syracuse
Come home with this shield or upon it - A Spartan woman equips her son
Varus, give me back my legions - Augustus Caesar : After the defeat and annihilation of Varus's column in Teutoberg Forest
Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula
To lead untrained people to war is to throw them away - Confucius
Only the brave enjoy noble and glorious deaths - Dionysius
To an imperial city nothing is inconsistent which is expedient - Euphemus of Athens
The walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and of the wheels, and of the chariots - Ezekiel, XXVI, 10
Alta sedent civilis vulnera dextrae (Deep are the wounds that civil strife inflicts) - Lucan
It is pleasant, when the sea is high and the winds are dashing the waves about, to watch from the shores the struggles of another - Lucretius
To brave men, the prizes that war offers are liberty and fame - Lycurgus of Sparta
Hannibal knew how to gain a victory, but not how to use it - Maharbal
The man who runs away will fight again - Menander
A small country cannot contend with a great; the few cannot contend with the many; the weak cannot contend with the strong - Mencius
Soldiers do not like being under the command of one who is not of noble birth - Onosander
He conquers who endures - Persius
An alliance with the powerful is never to be trusted - Phaedrus
In the moment of action remember the value of silence and order - Phormio of Athens
War is sweet to those who have never experienced it - Pindar
Extraordinary rains pretty generally fall after great battles - Plutarch
How are the mighty fallen in the midst of battle! - II Samuel, I, 25
Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war - Shakespeare: Julius Caesar, III, 1
In war we must be speedy - Silius Italicus
A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house - Socrates
Learn to obey before you command - Solon of Athens
Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favours the bold) - Terence
Who was the first that forged the deadly blade? Of rugged steel his sa***e soul was made - Tibullus
Proverbs and Maxims
Other quotations from Rome: Total War are proverbs and maxims. Here are some of them.


Maxims
March divided and fight concentrated.
Divide and conquer.

Proverbs
After the war is over, make alliances - Greek proverb
Flet victus, victor interiit (The conquered mourns, the conqueror is undone) - Latin proverb
Timidi mater non flet (A coward's mother does not weep) - Latin proverb
Arms keep peace - Latin proverb
Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield) - Latin proverb
To blunder twice is not allowed in war - Latin proverb
Victory loves prudence - Latin proverb (In this case "Victory" is the Roman goddess Victoria)
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  • CheChe Senior Member Posts: 788Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    My favourite is:

    "Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favours the bold)" - Terence


    I find this one strange and funny:

    "Extraordinary rains pretty generally fall after great battles" - Plutarch


    I also enjoy the poetic ones, which help me to imagine I am experiencing real history, like:

    "Who was the first that forged the deadly blade? Of rugged steel his sa***e soul was made" - Tibullus
    Proverbs and Maxims

    "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori (It is a sweet and seemly thing to die for one's country)."- Horace

    "Quae caret ora cruore nostro? (What coast knows not our blood?)"- Horace

    "Come home with this shield or upon it" - A Spartan woman equips her son

    "Men of Athens, I do not have much time for exhortation, but to the brave a few words are as good as many..." - Pericles

    ...and...

    'Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war' - Shakespeare: Julius Caesar, III, 1

    :D
    "You can learn more about a man in one hour of play, than in an entire year of conversation" - Plato

    "Just because you don't take an interest in politics, doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you" - Pericles, 430BC

    "If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" - Ernesto "Che" Guevara
  • Seleukos of OlympiaSeleukos of Olympia Senior Member Posts: 770Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    I must (as I always do whenever such a discussion pops up) correct one misquote. In:

    Soldiers do not like being under the command of one who is not of noble birth - Onosander

    The correct translation should be:

    Soldiers do not like being under the command of one who is not famous - Onosander

    In that book (the "Strategikos"), Onosander repeatedly states that noble birth is no indicator for leadership abilities, so it's a bit ironic how it appears like he's saying the exact opposite in that quote.


    I like Timidi mater non flet (A coward's mother does not weep) - Latin proverb
  • Armour144Armour144 Senior Member Posts: 146Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Come home with this shield or upon it" - A Spartan woman equips her son

    That one is my favourite. I find it interesting mainly because that woman is valuing the shield more than her own son.

    Crazy stuff went on back then.
    I think the Discovery Channel should be on a different channel every day.

    A recent survey suggests that 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population.
  • King of CarthageKing of Carthage Member Posts: 41Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    I like that one it moves me and it has meaning to it.
  • flamingryu30flamingryu30 Senior Member Posts: 884Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    you know that one was in the movie 300 and honestly I never realized how many quotes they put into the game wow theres just so many
  • KurfyrstenKurfyrsten Junior Member Posts: 1Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    She doesn't value the shield more than her son. It was spartan custom to carry dead warriors home on their shield. So she is actually just saying: Come home alive or dead. To a spartan it wouldn't matter either way.
  • ntwfanntwfan Senior Member Posts: 615Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum (Let him who desires peace prepare for war) by Vegetius

    It is pleasant, when the sea is high and the winds are dashing the waves about, to watch from the shores the struggles of another by Lucretius
  • UltimateWarriorUltimateWarrior Junior Member Posts: 29Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    I don't know if these quotes are in the game, but this are my favorite ancient quotes:


    "Cowards die many times before their actual deaths."
    "Experience is the teacher of all things. "
    "I love the name of honor, more than I fear death."

    Julius Caesar

    "I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion."
    "There is nothing impossible to him who will try. "

    Alexander the Great

    "An unjust peace is better than a just war."
    "Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
    "In time of war the laws are silent."
    Marcus Tullius Cicero
    Cowards die many times before their actual death. - Julius Caesar

    I love the name of honor, more than I fear death - Julius Caesar

    Which death is preferably to every other? "The unexpected". - Julius Caesar

    Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. - Napoleon Bonaparte
  • flamingryu30flamingryu30 Senior Member Posts: 884Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Kurfyrsten wrote: »
    She doesn't value the shield more than her son. It was spartan custom to carry dead warriors home on their shield. So she is actually just saying: Come home alive or dead. To a spartan it wouldn't matter either way.

    yep to spartans it is not wether they live or die but the glory of the battle.
  • flamingryu30flamingryu30 Senior Member Posts: 884Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Id have to say my fav is "I think the slain care little if they sleep or rise again." - Aeschylus
  • Stukaboy2Stukaboy2 Senior Member Posts: 364Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    "Vae victis" -Livy
    "Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing sooner than war." -Homer
    "If a man does not know to what port he is sailing, no wind is favourable." -Publilus Syrus
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    "In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it."
    - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
  • flamingryu30flamingryu30 Senior Member Posts: 884Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    yes those are good as well :)
  • srl97srl97 Senior Member Posts: 378Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Who was the first to forge the deadly blade, of rugged steel his sa***e soul was made. Tibullus.
    To me that sums up ancient warfare, and all its barbarity, along with the discipline and bravery to face what was coming, standing with the man next to you.
  • Seleukos of OlympiaSeleukos of Olympia Senior Member Posts: 770Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Kurfyrsten wrote: »
    She doesn't value the shield more than her son. It was spartan custom to carry dead warriors home on their shield. So she is actually just saying: Come home alive or dead. To a spartan it wouldn't matter either way.
    To be more precise, she is saying: don't run away from battle. The first thing a routing soldier would tend to do was throw away his shield so he could run faster (there was even a word for it, ριψάσπις, meaning he who has thrown away his shield). So her son should either return with his shield, proudly, or carried on his shield, as a corpse after standing his ground.
  • CheChe Senior Member Posts: 788Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    To be more precise, she is saying: don't run away from battle. The first thing a routing soldier would tend to do was throw away his shield so he could run faster (there was even a word for it, ριψάσπις, meaning he who has thrown away his shield). So her son should either return with his shield, proudly, or carried on his shield, as a corpse after standing his ground.

    Google translates "ριψάσπις" as "ripsaspis" - is that how it is pronounced, Seleukos? It looks like the word "hypaspists" (Alexander the Great's infantry units -I think they were a kind of elite light spearmen). Hmmm.... Make of that what you will.... ;)
    "You can learn more about a man in one hour of play, than in an entire year of conversation" - Plato

    "Just because you don't take an interest in politics, doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you" - Pericles, 430BC

    "If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" - Ernesto "Che" Guevara
  • CheChe Senior Member Posts: 788Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    I don't know if these quotes are in the game, but this are my favorite ancient quotes:


    "Cowards die many times before their actual deaths."
    "Experience is the teacher of all things. "
    "I love the name of honor, more than I fear death."

    Julius Caesar

    "I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion."
    "There is nothing impossible to him who will try. "

    Alexander the Great

    "An unjust peace is better than a just war."
    "Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
    "In time of war the laws are silent."
    Marcus Tullius Cicero

    That quote, "There is nothing impossible to him who will try," is certainly in the Alexander expansion :)
    "You can learn more about a man in one hour of play, than in an entire year of conversation" - Plato

    "Just because you don't take an interest in politics, doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you" - Pericles, 430BC

    "If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" - Ernesto "Che" Guevara
  • flamingryu30flamingryu30 Senior Member Posts: 884Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Alexander was truly one of the greatest military minds the world has ever seen
  • Stukaboy2Stukaboy2 Senior Member Posts: 364Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    also didn't hurt that the persia was a mess.
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    - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
  • azndomin8tionazndomin8tion Senior Member Posts: 603Registered Users
    edited November 2010
    Kurfyrsten wrote: »
    She doesn't value the shield more than her son. It was spartan custom to carry dead warriors home on their shield. So she is actually just saying: Come home alive or dead. To a spartan it wouldn't matter either way.

    That's not exactly what it means - In hoplite warfare if a hoplite routs they drop their heavy shield - the hoplon- in order to run off. Therefore what it is saying is "come home victorious or die trying"

    My favorite is "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious" by Sun Tzu - so true

    EDIT: once again Seleukos beat me to it (sob)
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  • omisomis Junior Member Posts: 1Registered Users
    edited February 2011
    I don't know if these quotes are in the game, but this are my favorite ancient quotes about life:


    "Cowards die many times before their actual deaths."
    "Experience is the teacher of all things. "
    "I love the name of honor, more than I fear death."

    Julius Caesar

    "I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion."
    "There is nothing impossible to him who will try. "

    Alexander the Great

    "An unjust peace is better than a just war."
    "Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
    "In time of war the laws are silent."
    Marcus Tullius Cicero


    Be a craftsman in speech that thou mayest be strong, for the strength of one is the tongue, and speech is mightier than all fighting.
    ~ Maxims of Ptahhotep, 3400 B.C.

    Not even the gods fight against necessity.
    Simonides (556 BC - 468 BC), from Plato, Dialogues, Protagoras

    Man is the measure of all things.
    There are two sides to every question.
    Protagoras (485 BC - 421 BC)
  • Lucius BrutusLucius Brutus Senior Member Posts: 889Registered Users
    edited February 2011
    "The God of War hates those who hesitate."
    -Euripides

    Basically gives you perspective on my strategies. :-P
  • Communist BaconCommunist Bacon Member Posts: 34Registered Users
    edited February 2011
    This isn't a real quote, but when you (the player) are victorious in a battle as a Roman faction, the computer announcer guy just screams "the day is ours!" rather loudly and stupidly. Always entertains me.
  • ItfanItfan Banned Posts: 942Banned Users
    edited February 2011
    Veni, vidi, vici!

    Caesar
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  • dominator920dominator920 Senior Member Posts: 243Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    ya'll proberly gussed my favorite quote... It is better to be feared then loved - Caligula (Little-boots lol) and adapted by many many people who wished this to be justified...
  • John GerhardJohn Gerhard Junior Member Posts: 22Registered Users
    edited October 2011
    Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
  • Brenticus1Brenticus1 Senior Member Posts: 643Registered Users
    edited October 2011
    The Spartans do not ask how many but where they are - Agis II of Sparta
    this explains much.
    The more you kill, the less the lag.
  • philhellenephilhellene Junior Member Posts: 1Registered Users
    edited October 2011
    "Unhappy Greeks, forever barbarians to each other" - Euripides

    OK, could someone supply the play's name and, perhaps, the line for this quote? I contacted one of my old professors, and he said it was not familiar.

    Thanks
  • Seleucos of OlympiaSeleucos of Olympia Senior Member Posts: 850Registered Users
    edited October 2011
    "Unhappy Greeks, forever barbarians to each other" - Euripides

    OK, could someone supply the play's name and, perhaps, the line for this quote? I contacted one of my old professors, and he said it was not familiar.

    Thanks

    That's from Euripides' "Troades" (The Trojan Women), line 759 (though I've also seen it as line 764). It might have been rendered a bit differently in another translation. In greek that line is: "ὦ βάρβαρ' ἐξευρόντες Ἕλληνες κακά".
  • LouThundersLouThunders Senior Member Posts: 312Registered Users
    edited October 2011
    Alea iacta est (the die is cast). For me it meant that once you do something, and you screw up, it happened and there's nothing you can do to fix it. So that you learn to live by the consequences of your mistakes and make life worth living in the end. Btw, we have a similar saying in Indonesian: "Nasi sudah menjadi bubur" (the rice had turned to porridge) which basically means the same thing.
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  • davida4davida4 Junior Member Posts: 19Registered Users
    edited October 2011
    This isn't a real quote, but when you (the player) are victorious in a battle as a Roman faction, the computer announcer guy just screams "the day is ours!" rather loudly and stupidly. Always entertains me.
    haha I always like that guy's dramatic flair.

    My favorite quote is "The walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and of the wheels, and of the chariots" - Ezekiel, XXVI, 10

    Its just so real and poetic, and shows how amazing a siege must have been. The walls shaking...wow
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