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All remaining notable LL that could be added in WH3

TheTrue_LordAndyTheTrue_LordAndy Registered Users Posts: 985
Personally I'd be quite happy if we got almost all of these.

Main observations is that most races have less than four.

Empire and Vampire counts have the most, indicating to me that some will either not come or have to be LH.








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  • destroyer67115destroyer67115 Registered Users Posts: 1,357
    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..
  • TheTrue_LordAndyTheTrue_LordAndy Registered Users Posts: 985

    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..

    For example?

    I think the list is quite realistic for characters that or not too obscure.
  • SerPus#7395SerPus#7395 Registered Users Posts: 9,692

    For example?

    The Chaos Dwarf part of the list is especially a mess.
  • TheTrue_LordAndyTheTrue_LordAndy Registered Users Posts: 985
    edited July 24
    SerPus said:

    For example?

    The Chaos Dwarf part of the list is especially a mess.
    Why? Your going say to Zhatan the black or Hobbgoblin Khan should not be in Chaos Dwarf and should be his own race...



  • TheTrue_LordAndyTheTrue_LordAndy Registered Users Posts: 985
    SerPus said:

    For example?

    The Chaos Dwarf part of the list is especially a mess.
    Honestly the 4 I listed I bet are the 4 we will get.
  • Ariel#4992Ariel#4992 Registered Users Posts: 2,373
    You made this? Coz it’s biased.

    Cathayan vampirate or Malakai are defo not notable LLs. There are quite a few special characters in 8th edition which are missing from your list.

    Why is Hobgobla-Khan in Chaos Dwarfs?

    W’soran, Ushoran and Abhorash will never happen. They are the ones who started the bloodlines but never had rules on TT which CA primarly uses for their LLs in the game and in their case there are lords that are far more active and reknown from their bloodlines (Vorag fro Strigoi, Zacharias for Nechrach and Walach for Blood Dragon)

    The final rose has faded,
    The eaves will sing no more;
    The waxen ground will keep you bound,
    Death-pale until the thaw.
    Then she placed the rest of Orion's ashes into the bowl and turned to face the Oak of Ages.
    I used to go by many names here. Crazycrix, Dubinekdubajs, Yrellian and finally Ariel, one of my favourite characters in the setting. Still waiting for Finubar and Naieth!
  • destroyer67115destroyer67115 Registered Users Posts: 1,357
    edited July 24

    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..

    For example?

    I think the list is quite realistic for characters that or not too obscure.
    I can start you off with beastmen, since they're my favs

    Off the top of my head you missed ungrol, and gorthor. Both of which are big, bigger names then slugtongue.

    If this is a "list of lords I personally want" then fine. But "all notable lords" then your empire list has ludwig? A legendary hero that should be added but he's a hero, I don't think people want him a lord. He's a champion and standard bearer.
  • TheTrue_LordAndyTheTrue_LordAndy Registered Users Posts: 985
    Ariel said:

    You made this? Coz it’s biased.

    Cathayan vampirate or Malakai are defo not notable LLs. There are quite a few special characters in 8th edition which are missing from your list.

    Why is Hobgobla-Khan in Chaos Dwarfs?

    W’soran, Ushoran and Abhorash will never happen. They are the ones who started the bloodlines but never had rules on TT which CA primarly uses for their LLs in the game and in their case there are lords that are far more active and reknown from their bloodlines (Vorag fro Strigoi, Zacharias for Nechrach and Walach for Blood Dragon)

    Ok Cathay Jade Vampire true, there is no one notable, that should have been off the list. I guess I should have said frazed it as likely candidates instead with keeping that one on.

    Why Hobgoblin Khan is listed in Chaos Dwafs, beacuse thats how he will be implemented in the game most likely. (I know I will get some hate for this) Just what I am sensing. If he is a new race I'm fine with it just not sure of the likelihood and CA mostly looks at gameplay for choosing LL, and he will give a different experience than the other LL in CD's

    Fair for the vampires there are a ton of characters there, but your probably right.

  • SerPus#7395SerPus#7395 Registered Users Posts: 9,692

    Your going say to Zhatan the black

    Obviously. And if you also want to use hobgoblin LL then it should be Gorduz Backstabber.
  • destroyer67115destroyer67115 Registered Users Posts: 1,357
    Ariel said:

    You made this? Coz it’s biased.

    Cathayan vampirate or Malakai are defo not notable LLs. There are quite a few special characters in 8th edition which are missing from your list.

    Why is Hobgobla-Khan in Chaos Dwarfs?

    W’soran, Ushoran and Abhorash will never happen. They are the ones who started the bloodlines but never had rules on TT which CA primarly uses for their LLs in the game and in their case there are lords that are far more active and reknown from their bloodlines (Vorag fro Strigoi, Zacharias for Nechrach and Walach for Blood Dragon)

    I'm gonna disagree only because of your statement of pregenators.

    I think they're Highly likely.
  • FossowayFossoway Registered Users Posts: 5,332
    Ariel said:

    You made this? Coz it’s biased.

    Cathayan vampirate or Malakai are defo not notable LLs. There are quite a few special characters in 8th edition which are missing from your list.

    Why is Hobgobla-Khan in Chaos Dwarfs?

    W’soran, Ushoran and Abhorash will never happen. They are the ones who started the bloodlines but never had rules on TT which CA primarly uses for their LLs in the game and in their case there are lords that are far more active and reknown from their bloodlines (Vorag fro Strigoi, Zacharias for Nechrach and Walach for Blood Dragon)

    You too are biased:
    - the Jade Vampire is defo a possible option for Vampire Coast
    - Malakai is a popular character and a Slayer, and it happens that almost all the missing Dwarf units are tied to him
    - and Hobgobla-Khan could be tied to Chaos Dwarfs because Hobgoblins are part of the Chaos Dwarf roster

    None of these may happen, but the possibility is there.
  • Nyxilis#3646Nyxilis#3646 Registered Users Posts: 7,650

    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..

    For example?

    I think the list is quite realistic for characters that or not too obscure.
    Like Galrauch, there was a meta around actually beating that guy at one point on the TT.

    And what, Tomb Kings don't even get a mention?

    Apophas.

    Might call some 'notable' but I wouldn't call everyone on that 'notable'. I mean, some were actually in the TT game vs some of those guys above.
  • Ariel#4992Ariel#4992 Registered Users Posts: 2,373
    Fossoway said:

    Ariel said:

    You made this? Coz it’s biased.

    Cathayan vampirate or Malakai are defo not notable LLs. There are quite a few special characters in 8th edition which are missing from your list.

    Why is Hobgobla-Khan in Chaos Dwarfs?

    W’soran, Ushoran and Abhorash will never happen. They are the ones who started the bloodlines but never had rules on TT which CA primarly uses for their LLs in the game and in their case there are lords that are far more active and reknown from their bloodlines (Vorag fro Strigoi, Zacharias for Nechrach and Walach for Blood Dragon)

    You too are biased:
    - the Jade Vampire is defo a possible option for Vampire Coast
    - Malakai is a popular character and a Slayer, and it happens that almost all the missing Dwarf units are tied to him
    - and Hobgobla-Khan could be tied to Chaos Dwarfs because Hobgoblins are part of the Chaos Dwarf roster

    None of these may happen, but the possibility is there.
    The topic is about notable LLs. There is no notable Jade Vampirate and Malakai is not a notable character when it comes to TT. Both can happen, but both are not notable.

    There is a hobgoblin special character for Chaos Dwarfs and that is Gorduz, so even if we get a special hobgoblin in Chaos Dwarfs, it won’t be the Khan (you can quote me on this)

    So, how am I biased? I made no propositions (only for bloodline characters and I am quite confident when it comes to those ones) and just called out the weird things in OP’s list.

    The final rose has faded,
    The eaves will sing no more;
    The waxen ground will keep you bound,
    Death-pale until the thaw.
    Then she placed the rest of Orion's ashes into the bowl and turned to face the Oak of Ages.
    I used to go by many names here. Crazycrix, Dubinekdubajs, Yrellian and finally Ariel, one of my favourite characters in the setting. Still waiting for Finubar and Naieth!
  • Narveid#1610Narveid#1610 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 41
    Wouldn't a Cathayan Vampirate be in Vampire Coast rather than Vampire Counts?
  • Hondlis#2158Hondlis#2158 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 1,594

    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..

    For example?

    I think the list is quite realistic for characters that or not too obscure.
    Well let’s start with BM. Actual missing LL is
    Gorthor.

    What you have are Hero options but you don’t have the only actual Lord option left.

    So…how exactly did you make the list?

  • destroyer67115destroyer67115 Registered Users Posts: 1,357
    Hondlis said:

    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..

    For example?

    I think the list is quite realistic for characters that or not too obscure.
    Well let’s start with BM. Actual missing LL is
    Gorthor.

    What you have are Hero options but you don’t have the only actual Lord option left.

    So…how exactly did you make the list?

    Hero options?

    Weren't they all LL since beastmens last book came out before heros were a thing?or am I incorrect?
  • Ariel#4992Ariel#4992 Registered Users Posts: 2,373

    Hondlis said:

    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..

    For example?

    I think the list is quite realistic for characters that or not too obscure.
    Well let’s start with BM. Actual missing LL is
    Gorthor.

    What you have are Hero options but you don’t have the only actual Lord option left.

    So…how exactly did you make the list?

    Hero options?

    Weren't they all LL since beastmens last book came out before heros were a thing?or am I incorrect?
    Not sure if I understand correctly, but there were no LLs in the armybooks. There were special characters which were either in Lord or Hero category. (This did not prevent the characters from leading the armies, they both still could be army generals - if not stated otherwise - Bruckner was a lord option but could not lead armies).

    The final rose has faded,
    The eaves will sing no more;
    The waxen ground will keep you bound,
    Death-pale until the thaw.
    Then she placed the rest of Orion's ashes into the bowl and turned to face the Oak of Ages.
    I used to go by many names here. Crazycrix, Dubinekdubajs, Yrellian and finally Ariel, one of my favourite characters in the setting. Still waiting for Finubar and Naieth!
  • Veldrinar#2882Veldrinar#2882 Registered Users Posts: 651
    Hobgobla Khan as a dawi-zharr lord? You just made me lose my lunch, chief.

    3 Chaos dwarves and Shar'tor would be ideal, though I wouldn't say no to Tordrek Hackart either(That ship of his is just too damn cool).

    Drazhoath and Astragoth are both shoe-ins, Zhatan is far, faaaar more likely than a hobgoblin. Shar'tor is a pretty popular and requested choice aswell, much more so than any hobgobbo.

    A slave species leading dawi-zharr forces. I shudder to imagine it.
  • Tennisgolfboll#5877Tennisgolfboll#5877 Registered Users Posts: 13,309
    Trash list
    It needs to be pointed out that what people call "cheese" is just playing the game the way it actually exists not in some fictional way they think it is supposed to work.
  • mecanojavi99#6562mecanojavi99#6562 EspañaRegistered Users Posts: 11,233
    ALL notable LLs? More like the ones you just came up with during lunch time...

    Where is is Zathan? Why is Mallabaude in the VCs and not Bretonia? A vampire pirate in VC and not VCoast? Malakai and Ulrika important? Where is the Golden Knigth and Mother Ostankya? Yuan Bo for Cathay? Ghark for the Ogres? Korhil for the HE? Heck, what about the VCoast and the TK as a whole?

    Seriously, if you are going to make a list like this, at least make some research first.
    "By the fires of Hashut, let them burn in the flames of eternal torment!"
    - Anonymous
  • IntertriarriiaeIntertriarriiae Registered Users Posts: 396
    Crom the conquerer
    Just tossing in my 2 heresies every once in a while.
  • Maedrethnir#1968Maedrethnir#1968 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 17,219
    High Elves without Finubar? This will not stand!

    Also, Wood Elves should get two more LLs: Araloth and Naieth.
  • John_KimbleJohn_Kimble Registered Users Posts: 1,534
    Guess someone's not a TK fan. Ramhotep and Apophas are as notable, if not more, than plenty of characters you listed.
    Not to mention Sehenesmet.
  • PoorManatee6197#6481PoorManatee6197#6481 Registered Users Posts: 2,552
    Hondlis said:

    If you're gonna say all remaining notable ones... you missed alot of notable ones..

    For example?

    I think the list is quite realistic for characters that or not too obscure.
    Well let’s start with BM. Actual missing LL is
    Gorthor.

    What you have are Hero options but you don’t have the only actual Lord option left.

    So…how exactly did you make the list?

    Which doesnt matter because in TT heros could be the general.
    #MakeDwarfsGreatAgain Josef Bugman, Thorek Ironbrow, Alrik Ranulfsson, Grimm Burloksson, Kazador Thunderhorn, Byrrnoth Grundadrakk, Malakai Makaisson, Gotrek Gurnisson, Garagrim, Dragon slayer, Deamon slayer, Doomseekers, Brotherhood of Grimnir, Giant slayers, Thunderbarge, Shieldbearer mount, Master brewer, Goblin Hewer, Norse dwarf war mammoth, Tractator engine, Rune golem, Shard dragon, proper Anvil of Doom, Ulther's dragon company, Lond Drong's slayer pirates, Everguard, Karak Varn, Karag Agrilwutraz, Karaz Bryn, Karag Dum, Karak Vlag, Kraka Dorden, Kraka Ornsmotek, Kraka Ravnsvake, Karak Vrag, Karak Azorn, Karak Krakaten.


    All those missing things are grudges in the great book, is in your hand to settle them, CA. Khazukan kazakit-ha!

    IT'S HOBGOBBO TIME!!!!!!!
    #JusticeForKurgan
  • Nazjax#2857Nazjax#2857 Registered Users Posts: 2,557
    No Morglum and Finubar ?
    >:)
  • Bloodydagger#9716Bloodydagger#9716 Registered Users Posts: 4,726
    Where is Ghark for Ogres?
  • kevManiac#4754kevManiac#4754 Registered Users Posts: 1,048
    Yoi're saying you've listed all notable characters, but then I see a lot missing.

    For example I miss Screetch Verminking for Skaven, Baba Yaga for Kislev (been heavily hinted that she will be coming), Karanak and Scyla Anfingrimm for Khorne, Vangheist, that undead Skaven, or just any character for Vampire Coast, or in general any TK character?
    Races I'd like to see, in order of preference: Chaos Dwarfs, Southern Realm/ DoW, Araby, Nippon, Hobgoblin Kharnate, Kuresh, Ind.
  • NameAlreadyExistsNameAlreadyExists Registered Users Posts: 284
    I'm also missing Constant Drachenfels on this list. I think, he would make an interesting character. Maybe a cross faction for Vampire Counts and Chaos with a shared roster of undead creatures and some demons.
  • diegoarrieta8888diegoarrieta8888 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 38
    I will add valten and king kazador
  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 21,388
    'Notable', such a subjective word.
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