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Q4 next DLC after WOC champions DLC

TheTrue_LordAndyTheTrue_LordAndy Registered Users Posts: 985
As we know from the road map CA released months ago, they are aiming to release an additional DLC in 2022 after the one coming in August.

Here is what they said:



Source:

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/twwh3-roadmap-2022/

To me this means that if immortal empires release goes well and they don't encounter issues resulting in delays, they will be able to release a large Update 3.0 accompanied with its own content. This content to me seems like it is Chaos Dwarfs DLC.

However, they say that the alternative is for a smaller patch 2.2, with it's own content. Therefore, this to me sounds like it would be a patch coming alongside a smaller DLC lord pack WH2 style.

So what I am ultimately getting at is CA is probably further along with DLC with two potential options almost ready to go in the fall 1. Chaos Dwarfs and 2. some unknown Lord pack

So my question is which Lord pack could this be?

My Guess is that it would feature at least 1 game three race and most likely Cathay or Kislev.

Could it be the Monkey King VS Thaquol
Could it be Jade Vampires VS Cathay?
Could it be Kislev VS Neferatta?
Could it be some other pairing? What do you think?
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  • Nyxilis#3646Nyxilis#3646 Registered Users Posts: 7,650
    I've been sitting on this one for awhile, while it says content I can't help but wonder if it's not going to be a DLC. They have factions they wanted to touch up and did not get to. Plenty, and they really really really really want IE to work because they know IE is it for them. This is what will make or break game 3 and they really want players to know that they are going to get to IE and clean it up.

    So once we get into IE and find all those bugs they're going to make a real push on it to clean it up. Deal with factions that do nothing, always dominate, go haywire and other things to make it go well.
  • Itharus#3127Itharus#3127 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 16,397
    Could be FLC to keep the mob sweet.
  • sokarassokaras Registered Users Posts: 154
  • Itharus#3127Itharus#3127 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 16,397
    sokaras said:

    RoR.

    Also quite possible.

    Personally I don't really get the allure of RoR... but everyone else seems to like it.
  • Steph_F_DavidSteph_F_David Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 3,493
    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.
  • epic_160110304684zvoI1jJepic_160110304684zvoI1jJ Registered Users Posts: 76
    I think expecting more than RoR or maybe an flc lord is setting yourself up for disappointment, even if 3.0 wasn’t ready in December it would likely only be pushed back by a month, maybe 2 at most so I doubt they do another dlc in between. They would also have to be working on chaos dwarfs, IE and this potential dlc at the same time for it to be possible.
  • Itharus#3127Itharus#3127 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 16,397

    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.

    Dwarfs just had a DLC dude. They're on the back burner for a while now.
  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Hamburg, Germany Registered Users Posts: 37,643
    I expect Chaos Dwarfs early to mid December.
    Summon the Elector Counts!
  • Itharus#3127Itharus#3127 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 16,397
    ArneSo said:

    I expect Chaos Dwarfs early to mid December.

    I mean, I like this idea, but that seems a bit optimistic to me.
  • FinishingLast#1402FinishingLast#1402 Registered Users Posts: 4,856
    Itharus said:

    ArneSo said:

    I expect Chaos Dwarfs early to mid December.

    I mean, I like this idea, but that seems a bit optimistic to me.
    Their blog says the fall DLC would release Q4 if it does come then. So December would be the latest it could come and hit that mark. And if it isn’t going to make it in Q4, we’ll probably know before then.
    SiWI: "no they just hate you and I don't blame them."
  • Bloodydagger#9716Bloodydagger#9716 Registered Users Posts: 4,724
    If IE launch goes smooth, we'll get Chaos Dwarves this year. If IE launch isn't smooth, then Chaos Dwarves early next year.
  • Steph_F_DavidSteph_F_David Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 3,493
    Itharus said:

    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.

    Dwarfs just had a DLC dude. They're on the back burner for a while now.
    They can get some mechanism update together with the CD, without a new lord.
    At release, IE brings update to the VC or Norsca for example, without a LL. While the Dwarves are not listed as getting any update.

  • Itharus#3127Itharus#3127 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 16,397

    Itharus said:

    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.

    Dwarfs just had a DLC dude. They're on the back burner for a while now.
    They can get some mechanism update together with the CD, without a new lord.
    At release, IE brings update to the VC or Norsca for example, without a LL. While the Dwarves are not listed as getting any update.

    Dwarfs just got an update o_O Would be rude to give them another so soon when others are waiting patiently for longer and in greater need.
  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Hamburg, Germany Registered Users Posts: 37,643
    Itharus said:

    ArneSo said:

    I expect Chaos Dwarfs early to mid December.

    I mean, I like this idea, but that seems a bit optimistic to me.
    Doesn’t seem that unlikely, CA is pretty much in time in their schedule.

    They said we might get another content drop in q4 depending on if the patch then will be 2.3 or 3.0.

    Keep in mind that CA has to DLC teams now so while one is busy with the patches, the other can already start to work on Chaos Dwarfs.
    Summon the Elector Counts!
  • GreenColouredGreenColoured Registered Users Posts: 6,932
    Itharus said:

    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.

    Dwarfs just had a DLC dude. They're on the back burner for a while now.
    I'm not sure if you quite know what a DLC is...
  • Schub#9514Schub#9514 Registered Users Posts: 1,577
    We know that they have currently enough manpower to work on two "projcets" at the same time. I guess that one team is currently working on CoC and IE and the other one on let's say Chaos Dwarfs. So there is a big chance that CD are finished at the end of this year and we get patch 3.0. But it could be be that they need more time for CD or IE releases in a state were say need manpower from the other team and have to focus on IE and then it will only be 2.2.

    And as Nyxilis alredy mentioned "content" can mean a lot of things and not only DLC.
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  • Loreguy#1056Loreguy#1056 Registered Users Posts: 1,814
    This year we have:
    The Game
    Ogres, my lord!
    Summon the Immortal Empires!
    Four CoC for WoC with access to DoC roster.

    Only gods know how many bugs - new and old ones - IE have. I don't think four months are enough to repair everything and release another DLC. But would be cool to have CD as surprise christmas gift.
  • mecanojavi99#6562mecanojavi99#6562 EspañaRegistered Users Posts: 11,230
    We can kind of predict the size of the DLC based on whether it's 2.2 or 3.0

    CA explained to us that new Patches (2.2) arrive with small content additions (RoR) while new Builds (3.0) arrive with proper DLC.

    So if it's 2.2 it will probably just be some RoR, if it's 3.0 it will be a proper DLC, probably CDs considering that they are already being hinted in game.
    "By the fires of Hashut, let them burn in the flames of eternal torment!"
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  • Itharus#3127Itharus#3127 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 16,397
    ArneSo said:

    Itharus said:

    ArneSo said:

    I expect Chaos Dwarfs early to mid December.

    I mean, I like this idea, but that seems a bit optimistic to me.
    Doesn’t seem that unlikely, CA is pretty much in time in their schedule.

    They said we might get another content drop in q4 depending on if the patch then will be 2.3 or 3.0.

    Keep in mind that CA has to DLC teams now so while one is busy with the patches, the other can already start to work on Chaos Dwarfs.
    I have heard the separate teams line before... you'll have to excuse my doubt.
  • Itharus#3127Itharus#3127 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 16,397

    Itharus said:

    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.

    Dwarfs just had a DLC dude. They're on the back burner for a while now.
    I'm not sure if you quite know what a DLC is...
    Was Thorek FLC? *scratches head*

    Regardless, they just had a content drop and revamp. It's too soon.
  • Kn_Gars#2718Kn_Gars#2718 Registered Users Posts: 3,275
    Schub said:

    We know that they have currently enough manpower to work on two "projcets" at the same time. I guess that one team is currently working on CoC and IE and the other one on let's say Chaos Dwarfs. So there is a big chance that CD are finished at the end of this year and we get patch 3.0. But it could be be that they need more time for CD or IE releases in a state were say need manpower from the other team and have to focus on IE and then it will only be 2.2.

    And as Nyxilis alredy mentioned "content" can mean a lot of things and not only DLC.

    CA told us that projects they are working on currently is CoC, IE and the smaller patches. They don't have the manpower to work on another DLC as well. IE is an absolutely massive project as it involves not only transfering all the older lords to WH3 but updating them to the new game engine and reworking all of the lords that now get their own campaigns. Then there are the new IE mechanics on top of that. That is a lot of moving parts that have to fit together just right and no group of devs could do that and work on a large DLC & race rework at the same time. IE and CoC need to be done by separate groups inside the DLC team.

    If work is being done on the CD it is likely pre-production done by the staff that don't have skills that are needed in CoC & IE. Just working up the unit concept art and finalising it takes a lot of time and effort.

    The user formerly known as KN_Gars, thanks for the involunatry rename CA.
  • nyobiennyobien Registered Users Posts: 327
    Recolours of Renown

    Remove agents/heroes from the campaign map like Three Kingdoms did. They are not fun and only serve to make the game more tedious. Nobody finishes campaigns because of how tedious the late game becomes with things like this to manage every turn.

    Grudges:

    6 years old Lord of Change with unimpressive animations. CA hid the exalted one until launch and lied that it was like Kairos's: https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/qak83o/so_turns_out_the_lord_of_change_in_the_trailer/.

    CA put the Champions of Chaos LLs in WoC instead of monogods to save money on unique campaign mechanics

  • Sultschiem#8734Sultschiem#8734 Registered Users Posts: 3,499
    edited August 1
    Content does not mean "DLC"...tho I am pretty sure that the assets etc. for the next lord pack are already ready.

    Would expect the White Dwarf Tie-In or another form of FLC.
  • Maedrethnir#1968Maedrethnir#1968 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 17,219
    nyobien said:

    Recolours of Renown

    Made me chuckle. But yes, this would also be my choice.
  • Steph_F_DavidSteph_F_David Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 3,493
    Itharus said:

    Regardless, they just had a content drop and revamp. It's too soon.

    They had it for game 2. It is possible, although not very likely I agree, that CA needs to adjust something for IE to make the dwarves work better. I don't see a big change, maybe some rework like CA did with Norsca or VC.

  • DeadpoolSW#7283DeadpoolSW#7283 Registered Users Posts: 3,151
    No, I think they just mean that they are currently aiming to get the next DLC (Chaos Dwarfs) out in Q4 (probably December), but if there are issues/delays, we'll get the patch with a small FLC: RoRs, Rakarth-esque FLC lord, or Old World Update. There's no way they're working on two DLCs simultaneously to release one of them in December.
    Nagash will rule again!

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  • Sultschiem#8734Sultschiem#8734 Registered Users Posts: 3,499

    No, I think they just mean that they are currently aiming to get the next DLC (Chaos Dwarfs) out in Q4 (probably December), but if there are issues/delays, we'll get the patch with a small FLC: RoRs, Rakarth-esque FLC lord, or Old World Update. There's no way they're working on two DLCs simultaneously to release one of them in December.

    Actually, its completely normal to do the work on multiple DLCs at a time, simply because you most of the time have way more designers and artists than code availability.

    So the designs, assets etc. for the next x DLC will most likely already be ready and they are waiting for implementation.

    I would expect them to just decide after x time after IE launch to say: okay, can we do Chaos Dwarfs first within the year or do we need to instead do a lordpack? Given by the amount of problems with IE.

    Because after IE launch they will decide what their coders are doing next.
  • MikobotMikobot Registered Users Posts: 500
    If CA does a big 3.0 update, I would assume the DLC to be Chaos Dwarfs. The WoC DLC addressed the really underwhelming state of the race (+ Monogod mortal selections), and I think the next logical thing is to address the massive hole in the middle of both the IE and RoC maps. From there CA will be in a comfortable position to pursue Monogod, Kislev, Cathay, VCount, Empire, Dwarf, GS, and Ogre themed DLCs in whatever order they desire (within reason).
    Itharus said:

    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.

    Dwarfs just had a DLC dude. They're on the back burner for a while now.
    Dwarfs had a FLC, not receiving a dlc over TWW2's entire existence. The roster needs some new units/heroes/lords (namely some of the stuff currently missing, but also some general support for new aggressive troops), and the base roster needs rebalancing (better Ironbreaker shields please).
  • Shogun_SanjuroShogun_Sanjuro Registered Users Posts: 344
    I'd like to see Chaos Dwarves before Christmas.
  • StuntyStabber#2379StuntyStabber#2379 Registered Users Posts: 81

    Since it is a "big" improvements, I suspect a pun, with either the CD, or a Dwarves update.

    Alternately, a common synonym for big is "mammoth".

    Norsca rework confirmed!
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