Future totalwar game

Flavius96#8596

I have had ideas about a future total war game. Hopefully there would be a late roman era game,like Attila, but would go from AD 395 to about AD 900 and have some cool game mechanics. I'm guessing there's mods for that though? Just thinking 🤔. It would be cool to see what CA would do with that time period! Anyone's thoughts are welcome on this idea.

Commisar#2307

That would just be an extended Attila. Was already possible to take over/wipe out the map in a much shorter time span so the extra years don't really bring anything.

Flavius96#8596

That's a good point! I just want to see the Byzantines aka eastern Romans deal with the Arab invasion of the 7th century. I think that would be cool. There's should be a game that deals with the era of 6th to 7th century. Is there a mod that deals with the era? Anyone know?!

Lotor12#2810

Age of Charlomagne DLC for Attila?

Or Thrones of Britania

Flavius96#8596

Lotor12#2810 said:

Age of Charlomagne DLC for Attila?

Or Thrones of Britania

Thanks for the suggestions and I will have to play Attila!

davedave1124#4773

Tbf I really enjoyed playing the Byzantine Empire in M2. You still get assaulted by the Seljuk Turks quite often and it has some very unique troops.

Flavius96#8596

davedave1124#4773 said:

Tbf I really enjoyed playing the Byzantine Empire in M2. You still get assaulted by the Seljuk Turks quite often and it has some very unique troops.

I totally agree! Maybe CA will go all out on Medieval 3?! That would be awesome!

Flavius96#8596

Hey I just found out this mod existed
https://youtu.be/xig8Ankhy3Y Check it out https://youtu.be/1m2l1HJ6BFw

Flavius96#8596

https://youtu.be/1m2l1HJ6BFw

Flavius96#8596

Just watched this video https://youtu.be/FMCVGuAOwxQ

Commisar#2307

Flavius96#8596 said:

That's a good point! I just want to see the Byzantines aka eastern Romans deal with the Arab invasion of the 7th century. I think that would be cool. There's should be a game that deals with the era of 6th to 7th century. Is there a mod that deals with the era? Anyone know?!

A more focused game on that time frame and region then yeah I could see that, might fit well as a Saga title or a side campaign for M3 if they keep them, could also possibly be an early start date for it.

Flavius96#8596

Commisar#2307 said:

Flavius96#8596 said:

That's a good point! I just want to see the Byzantines aka eastern Romans deal with the Arab invasion of the 7th century. I think that would be cool. There's should be a game that deals with the era of 6th to 7th century. Is there a mod that deals with the era? Anyone know?!

A more focused game on that time frame and region then yeah I could see that, might fit well as a Saga title or a side campaign for M3 if they keep them, could also possibly be an early start date for it.

Yes true! I should add maybe the 8th century and the siege of Constantinople. Thanks for the input! #early medieval #totalwar medieval 3

Flavius96#8596

Who thinks a early medieval start date would be amazing idea?💡 How would the time line and mechanics work?

LESAMA#5456

Best ca can do is medieval 3 with chapter packs. Huge amount of replayability, different starting positions, cultures, mechanics etc. However focus seems more on expanding into more profitable segments like first person shooters and putting total war on a back track. Bad news for us total war fans.

Flavius96#8596

LESAMA#5456 said:

Best ca can do is medieval 3 with chapter packs. Huge amount of replayability, different starting positions, cultures, mechanics etc. However focus seems more on expanding into more profitable segments like first person shooters and putting total war on a back track. Bad news for us total war fans.

Yes! medieval 3 with chapter packs and different cultures and mechanics would be a good surprise. Kinda like what they did with rome 2, I think? As a fellow fan of historical total war since Rome 1. I would be bummed if CA put historical total war on the back track. That would be bad news.

Lotor12#2810

LESAMA#5456 said:

Best ca can do is medieval 3 with chapter packs.
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+1

Flavius96#8596

Lotor12#2810 said:

LESAMA#5456 said:

Best ca can do is medieval 3 with chapter packs.
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+1

What do you want to see in a new historical total war?!

Lotor12#2810

Flavius96#8596 said:

What do you want to see in a new historical total war?!

My favourite historical era is "Pike and Shot" 1500-1699 , I would like to see TW game from this era, but Medieval 3, Rome 3, Empire 2 or Napoleon 2 would be great for me too

In mechanics - I do not like political and character micromanagment like in Attila, Thrones of Britania or Three Kingdoms, O hope future total War would be like older TW - Medieval 2 or Shogun 2

I would like to have some kind of unique faction mechanics and features like in Warhammer or Troy, which inteteracts with battle part

No, I do not want single unit heroes/general

I want meaningful building system without many small %modiefiers , I want to do interesting strategic decions, not to fix the puzzle (Attila). The buildings can have money upkeep like in 4X games

I like the chapter concept from 3K

Flavius96#8596

Lotor12#2810 said:

Flavius96#8596 said:

What do you want to see in a new historical total war?!

My favourite historical era is "Pike and Shot" 1500-1699 , I would like to see TW game from this era, but Medieval 3, Rome 3, Empire 2 or Napoleon 2 would be great for me too

In mechanics - I do not like political and character micromanagment like in Attila, Thrones of Britania or Three Kingdoms, O hope future total War would be like older TW - Medieval 2 or Shogun 2

I would like to have some kind of unique faction mechanics and features like in Warhammer or Troy, which inteteracts with battle part

No, I do not want single unit heroes/general

I want meaningful building system without many small %modiefiers , I want to do interesting strategic decions, not to fix the puzzle (Attila). The buildings can have money upkeep like in 4X games

I like the chapter concept from 3K

I totally agree with everything you said! Great idea for the new historical total wars. Pike and Shot could work with the mechanics you mentioned. Even Medieval 3, Rome 3, Empire 2, and Napoleon 2 could be done well with the mechanics you brought up.

Flavius96#8596

For anyone who has played Attila. Is it worth the buy? I know it's on sale.

dge1

Flavius96#8596 said:

For anyone who has played Attila. Is it worth the buy? I know it's on sale.

Yes. I have over forty completed campaigns with a little over twenty different factions.

Flavius96#8596

dge1 said:

Flavius96#8596 said:

For anyone who has played Attila. Is it worth the buy? I know it's on sale.

Yes. I have over forty completed campaigns with a little over twenty different factions.

Okay thanks I will have to buy it! Do you have any ideas about what the next historical total war should be or have?

Flavius96#8596

Anyone have tips on how to play the eastern Romans in Attila?

Flavius96#8596

What should we see in unit cards in a new historical totalwar?

loganthefox#8682

I would love to see a total war rome that spanned the whole world. With Chinese and india civilization included

VikingHuscal1066#5774

loganthefox#8682 said:

I would love to see a total war rome that spanned the whole world. With Chinese and india civilization included

While I do love the ancient world as well, I'd rather see CA make an Empire 2 the nearly world spanning TW game.

It's just that with all the limitations of the ancient world, it does seem like it would be REALLY hard to eventually try to do stuff like moving far enough east to conquer China and such. But I'm sure you know what I mean.

And I just think that there's a whole lot that they could do with an Empire 2 that actually spans the 1700s as its main time period.

Flavius96#8596

loganthefox#8682 said:

I would love to see a total war rome that spanned the whole world. With Chinese and india civilization included

Yes! They can do it too. It would be a challenge for CA but we'll see.

Flavius96#8596

VikingHuscal1066#5774 said:

loganthefox#8682 said:

I would love to see a total war rome that spanned the whole world. With Chinese and india civilization included

While I do love the ancient world as well, I'd rather see CA make an Empire 2 the nearly world spanning TW game.

It's just that with all the limitations of the ancient world, it does seem like it would be REALLY hard to eventually try to do stuff like moving far enough east to conquer China and such. But I'm sure you know what I mean.

And I just think that there's a whole lot that they could do with an Empire 2 that actually spans the 1700s as its main time period.

Yeah you have a point but it would be cool too see a expanded ancient map. A Empire 2 would be great.

VikingHuscal1066#5774

Flavius96#8596 said:

Yeah you have a point but it would be cool too see a expanded ancient map. A Empire 2 would be great.

Yeah.

I just feel like an Empire 2 might be one of the only ways they could make a even bigger campaign map than Warhammer 3's Immortal Empires without making it super cramped.

I would think that one thing that would help them do that would be to change the way they make DLC (at least for this particular TW game) by making the DLC packs more similar to "old timey" expansion packs that add in a whole bunch of land to the campaign map along with a good number of playable factions from the added territories.

Though I do think that one little interesting thing they could possibly do would be to have some areas of the world be kind of "province-less" areas cause attrition to the vast majority of armies, like the Sahara and some parts of the middle east.

Flavius96#8596

VikingHuscal1066#5774 said:

Flavius96#8596 said:

Yeah you have a point but it would be cool too see a expanded ancient map. A Empire 2 would be great.

Yeah.

I just feel like an Empire 2 might be one of the only ways they could make a even bigger campaign map than Warhammer 3's Immortal Empires without making it super cramped.

I would think that one thing that would help them do that would be to change the way they make DLC (at least for this particular TW game) by making the DLC packs more similar to "old timey" expansion packs that add in a whole bunch of land to the campaign map along with a good number of playable factions from the added territories.

Though I do think that one little interesting thing they could possibly do would be to have some areas of the world be kind of "province-less" areas cause attrition to the vast majority of armies, like the Sahara and some parts of the middle east.

Empire 2 is probably better for a world 🌍 map. They should do DLCs like the older totalwars. The Province-less idea 💡 is something to see if they would do that?

VikingHuscal1066#5774

Flavius96#8596 said:

Empire 2 is probably better for a world 🌍 map. They should do DLCs like the older totalwars. The Province-less idea 💡 is something to see if they would do that?

I don't think that making it the literal full world would be a good idea.

I just think that some factions, while certainly flavorful, such as the Maori of New Zealand and the Hawaiians, would be at an EXTREME disadvantage, even compared to the likes of the Native American Tribes. They have no access to guns or cavalry, so they'd be little more than archers and melee infantry.

And there's also the problem of faction uniqueness.

Let's say that they do eventually add in ALL of North America to an Empire 2's campaign map.

Now let's try to come up with unique things for about, let's say, 20, Native American factions. I'll give you a minute.

..., it's not as easy as you might think huh?

I think it'd end up being the same sort of thing as trying to make every minor faction in Warhammer 3's IE campaign playable, or something like that.


And as far as the whole "province-less" idea is really more akin to making places like the large deserts like the Sahara and those in the Middle East and the like actually dangerous to just try to cross without a plan.

The idea is to make there be certain things like "corridors" or paths that are practically a province themselves, which are things like forts and trade settlements, so that they are a key part of securing such areas.

And only certain factions should be able to have less attrition from such areas.