War3 multiplayer

Lotus_Moon#2452

Total garbage

Just want to say thx CA you totally stuffed up MP of total war warhammer;

Want to save face perhaps;

-Re add chat
-fix your major bugs
-fix unit responsiveness
-add some non idiotic maps
-stop focusing only on dom (its been a while its shown its a fail why keep beating a dead horse?)
-do major balance changes for ultra or revert to large (whos silly idea was to change to ultra for MP? And for what? To stuff up all balance!?)
-re set ladder
-fix ladder
-separate ladders
-match making anyone?


Honestly the state of war 3 MP is worst its ever been and the scene is almost dead. Save face and and fix your mistakes than give it over for people who care about MP longevity.

I know almost all pro balance testers quit due to the direction that CA team took in balancing war3, stop listening to single player balance testers for balance ideas on MP since this is the outcome

The_real_FAUST#6885

QoL fixes are needed rapidly at this point.

In theory this is a brand new game CA and your actions are killing it.

It is in a worse state than WH2 MP. This is just appaling - please address this quickly

glosskilos#4009

Totally agree I haven’t touched the game since like June last year. MP has been a complete disappointment. Domination is terrible, the maps are all stupid, and I don’t even know what is going on with the balance. MP was in a better state at the beginning of WH1 when people were hiding their lords in the forest for fear of broken spirit leech. I bet they still haven’t even fixed the issue where the reinforcement bar blocks your army bar, let alone the lack of chat.

At least I have darktide now tho. What’s funny is for all of darktide’s issues it’s still a better polished game than WH3 and WH3 has been out like a year while darktide has been out for less than 2 months.

drogarito#2548

Another big thing that needs fixing in multiplayer is SEM dueling. I literally had mutant rat ogre missing 5 times in a row while fighting the hellpit abomination. Also, another bug that needs fixing is last hitting. The units just run along with the almost dead LL or SEM and can't even reach it and kill it.

#11370

I have clicked the agree button @Lotus_Moon#2452 even though I think, according to my current realistic expectation, the best approach would be to..

... find back to a friendly tone and focus / ask for one or two major issues fixed per quater and then thank them for it.

If we ask too much and become too much of a pain, the employees will resent even touching the presumably "hopeless MP mess" one day, lose hope they can ever please us and game over.

They'll then probably only keep talking with Turin, because he is simply a lot nicer than us bunch of unhappy customers .. and that'd be goodbye land battles.

glosskilos#4009

#11370 said:

I have clicked the agree button @Lotus_Moon#2452 even though I think, according to my current realistic expectation, the best approach would be to..

... find back to a friendly tone and focus / ask for one or two major issues fixed per quater and then thank them for it.

If we ask too much and become too much of a pain, the employees will resent even touching the presumably "hopeless MP mess" one day, lose hope they can ever please us and game over.

They'll then probably only keep talking with Turin, because he is simply a lot nicer than us bunch of unhappy customers .. and that'd be goodbye land battles.

MP in this game had so much potential to become big, WH2 laid all the groundwork for it they just had to build on it a bit more with WH3 while removing some of the kinks, but they took everything good from WH2 and threw it away and replaced it with something worse.

I see your point, but at this point if CA wants to commit suicide with their own game that’s on them.

Energyzed#6772

TWW 3 has been my biggest dissapointment of 2022. They could had make one of the best RTS games ever, with everything they had accomplished alredy...They just had to increase the rate of balance/ bug fixing patches and give some love to the alredy existing land battle and MP comunnity and instead of that we got a bag of hot garbage.
The game had so much potential and we got this...

Not sure why i even enter back on the forum from time to time when i havent played the game in months. Guess im naive to have hope for CA to fix the all their mess...

The_real_FAUST#6885

Energyzed#6772 said:

TWW 3 has been my biggest dissapointment of 2022. They could had make one of the best RTS games ever, with everything they had accomplished alredy...They just had to increase the rate of balance/ bug fixing patches and give some love to the alredy existing land battle and MP comunnity and instead of that we got a bag of hot garbage.
The game had so much potential and we got this...

Not sure why i even enter back on the forum from time to time when i havent played the game in months. Guess im naive to have hope for CA to fix the all their mess...

I'm with you on this.

It's revealing of a passionate fan base and how easy it could be for CA to bring us all back.

It's maddeningly simple what they need to do with so little needed for big impacts yet they still aren't doing it

drogarito#2548

#11370 said:

I have clicked the agree button @Lotus_Moon#2452 even though I think, according to my current realistic expectation, the best approach would be to..

... find back to a friendly tone and focus / ask for one or two major issues fixed per quater and then thank them for it.

If we ask too much and become too much of a pain, the employees will resent even touching the presumably "hopeless MP mess" one day, lose hope they can ever please us and game over.

They'll then probably only keep talking with Turin, because he is simply a lot nicer than us bunch of unhappy customers .. and that'd be goodbye land battles.

We had to beg them for a damn toggle button for 6 months. And besides, how are we asking too much? The current multiplayer system is beyond bare bones and it even doesn't have a chat option. Totally unacceptable by AAA standards.

#11370

I agree 100% but it feels like beating a dead horse atm.

Totentanz777#2915

Something happened at CA over this last year or so because it used to be bad but somehow it is even worse than usual.

Turin literally put together a map pack that wasn't complete garbage and is basically begging CA to just add the maps in game so players have decent maps and CA was just like "nah, we're good".

Who in their right mind thought adding Belekor to MP was a great idea, especially with all the mass changes. Absurdly OP and has been since day 1.

Leaderboard is useless garbage.

The game is completely full of jank.

Who knows if CA can get it together to salvage some part of this at least. But right now it ain't looking too good. They already got money from the base game and I know people think TW:W3 won't get the 3K treatment but if CA management think that developing more DLC and fixing broken things won't bring in more revenue then it's not going to happen. Given all the delays, what would even be a reasonable timeframe for Chaos Dwarves? Probably June or so. What's next though? Nagash dropping in 2024? All four mono god factions literally only have a single lord available to play, which is pretty pathetic as this game nears the 1 year anniversary. I'm not sure why the DLC lords aren't available to be played by both WOC and the mono god faction. W2 released with at least two lords for each faction and within a year there was a ton of new content, lords, and even factions in the game.

I'm assuming that beta label is gonna remain on immortal empires until CA pulls the plug on War3 and end life support for the game. By trying to change and improve multiplayer but not dedicating enough resources to follow through they've effectively botched it. Don't hold your breath for MP improvements folks, chat is dead and it ain't coming back.

The_real_FAUST#6885

They (CA) definitely seem to have got worse with WH3.

It seems rushed and attention has rapidly been moved elsewhere and if there even is a permanent team left on WH3 it feels like a skeleton crew

There also seems to be this consistent issue of communication, either getting messages of problems /quick easy fixes to the team or their ability to tell the community that they are even aware and wanting to do something about it.

Something as basic as that would go such a long way

"there aren't loads of us working on this matter but we are aware of chat, the leaderboard and map scarcity and its on our list to do"

glosskilos#4009

Totentanz777#2915 said:

Something happened at CA over this last year or so because it used to be bad but somehow it is even worse than usual.

Turin literally put together a map pack that wasn't complete garbage and is basically begging CA to just add the maps in game so players have decent maps and CA was just like "nah, we're good".

Who in their right mind thought adding Belekor to MP was a great idea, especially with all the mass changes. Absurdly OP and has been since day 1.

Leaderboard is useless garbage.

The game is completely full of jank.

Who knows if CA can get it together to salvage some part of this at least. But right now it ain't looking too good. They already got money from the base game and I know people think TW:W3 won't get the 3K treatment but if CA management think that developing more DLC and fixing broken things won't bring in more revenue then it's not going to happen. Given all the delays, what would even be a reasonable timeframe for Chaos Dwarves? Probably June or so. What's next though? Nagash dropping in 2024? All four mono god factions literally only have a single lord available to play, which is pretty pathetic as this game nears the 1 year anniversary. I'm not sure why the DLC lords aren't available to be played by both WOC and the mono god faction. W2 released with at least two lords for each faction and within a year there was a ton of new content, lords, and even factions in the game.

I'm assuming that beta label is gonna remain on immortal empires until CA pulls the plug on War3 and end life support for the game. By trying to change and improve multiplayer but not dedicating enough resources to follow through they've effectively botched it. Don't hold your breath for MP improvements folks, chat is dead and it ain't coming back.

I really hope you’re wrong but at this point I dont have much hope left

Totentanz777#2915

glosskilos#4009 said:

Totentanz777#2915 said:

Something happened at CA over this last year or so because it used to be bad but somehow it is even worse than usual.

Turin literally put together a map pack that wasn't complete garbage and is basically begging CA to just add the maps in game so players have decent maps and CA was just like "nah, we're good".

Who in their right mind thought adding Belekor to MP was a great idea, especially with all the mass changes. Absurdly OP and has been since day 1.

Leaderboard is useless garbage.

The game is completely full of jank.

Who knows if CA can get it together to salvage some part of this at least. But right now it ain't looking too good. They already got money from the base game and I know people think TW:W3 won't get the 3K treatment but if CA management think that developing more DLC and fixing broken things won't bring in more revenue then it's not going to happen. Given all the delays, what would even be a reasonable timeframe for Chaos Dwarves? Probably June or so. What's next though? Nagash dropping in 2024? All four mono god factions literally only have a single lord available to play, which is pretty pathetic as this game nears the 1 year anniversary. I'm not sure why the DLC lords aren't available to be played by both WOC and the mono god faction. W2 released with at least two lords for each faction and within a year there was a ton of new content, lords, and even factions in the game.

I'm assuming that beta label is gonna remain on immortal empires until CA pulls the plug on War3 and end life support for the game. By trying to change and improve multiplayer but not dedicating enough resources to follow through they've effectively botched it. Don't hold your breath for MP improvements folks, chat is dead and it ain't coming back.

I really hope you’re wrong but at this point I dont have much hope left

I really, really, REALLY hope that I'm wrong too because I love this series and the game has so much damn potential. But MP is really in a **** state, it's gonna take CA work to actually first understand what makes MP fun and what is balanced and then actually create or add previously made maps and take more of a stab at balance.