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Do you like special abilities for next Historical Games?
Jam#4399
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Who doesn't want to rapid advance and trample enemy upon charge?
Do you really need to hear your commander say "HeadHunt" or "Frenzy" first before you kill units properly?
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeI mean, giving stuff like various Native American units in an Empire 2 things like the Rapid Advance from Attila would help them be able even the odds against European units.
And that's just one example.
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeAtleast you can see units forming testudo, shieldwall, phalanx, etc... before you can see buff in their stats.
Power-Up abilities like trample, headhunt, etc...? Sigh!
Abilities should make sense.
How come a unit gets an instant bonus with a click of a button without doing anything?
Shouldn't they trample enemies whenever they are charging in the first place?
Shouldn't they kill as many units as possible upon charging in the first place as well?
So if you didn't click these button, are they charging softly by default?
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1 · 1Disagree 1AgreeRousing speeches, a combined battle cry can be used to give troops a second wind.
This is a game, based on warfare, it’s never been a simulator and never will be. If that’s what you’re after then I imagine future releases will be disappointing.
M2 - Crusades
The Turks - Nur ad-Din- Light of Faith - Increases attack speed and morale of troops for a limited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but also requires a period of time before it can be used again.
The Byzantine Empire - Manuel Comnenus - Byzantine Politics - Several enemy units succumb to infighting and refuse to move for a limited time. No range limit, but can only be used once per battle.
Egypt- Saladin - Righteousness of Faith - sets all units that have not broken to maximum morale for a limited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but needs a period of time before it can be used again.
Kingdom of Jerusalem - Richard the Lionheart - Heart of the Lion - Immediately rallies all troops who are fleeing and returns their morale to normal. Can be used more than once per battle but needs a period of time before it can be used again.
Principality of Antioch - Phillip II - Flower of Chivalry - Increases attack power and stamina of his troops for a limited time. Can be used more than once per battle, but requires a period of time before it can be used again.
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0 · 2Disagree AgreeOnce you rally the troops again, they will get second wind though. Is it wrong?
It is like saying phalanx formation is different from steady ability. Shieldwall is different from steady ability.
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Instead of focusing on tactic and maneuver, do you really want to have clickfest of buttons?
How about "Rapid Advance" button instead of just making them run?
How about "Hide Button" instead of just automatically hide?
More buttons to click, the more fun. 😄😄😄
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1 · 1Disagree 1AgreeAnd the formations are certainly different than activatable abilities.
Formations are more about units, well, forming a special formation that usually has strengths and weaknesses, while active abilities are more like temporary bonuses that only last a certain amount of time.
Rapid Advance is supposed to give a unit a boost in speed so that they can close with the enemies faster or more quickly flank an enemy unit or something like that.
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeHow will your stamina boost without being rallied or inspired? Your stamina will refresh but your morale is down? Hmmmmm .... Shouldn't units automatically rapid advance when you make them charge on the flank of enemy unit?
What is the difference when just simply making them charge on the flank?
Are they charging softly if you didn't press "Rapid Advance" button?
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1 · 1Disagree 1AgreeThe idea behind the second wind is to actually give that sort of adrenaline rush separately rather than at the same time.
And the Rapid Advance is basically just a speed boost for the unit that has it as compared to their normal running.
Such abilities are meant to add depth to the battles.
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeWhy would you want to make units to get second wind instantly without being rallied? What is their motivation? Stamina getting boost-up instantly without a reason? What is this, power-up?
Are you telling units are charging slowly if you didn't press Rapid Advance button? You are charging therefore you should automaticall rapid advance though...
By the way, what is your opinion with Trample Ability as well? Do you like it?
How come that would add depth? Clickfest. Pressing many buttons at the right time instead of tactics and maneuver?
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeThe abilities are sort of like power ups in a way, but ones you need to be smart about using, because most of them do have a fairly long cooldown.
And it's not a "clickfest" just because you have to sometimes click a button.
And some of those abilities do add to the tactical toolbox of a TW game if they're done right.
The thing with a Rapid Advance is to give a boost to a unit, by something like 30% or something, so that they can run even faster than they normally can.
Again, most abilities have to be used smartly, or that's certainly how it's supposed to be.
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeFir the 3rd time, are units not rapid advancing when charging? Are they charging slowly if you forgot to press the button?
Maybe you will be happy to see a "Hide Ability" that will make units suddenly hide with a press of a button instead of automatically hiding when in forest though...
Anyways, hope you enjoy clicking unnecesary buttons. You prefer clicks over maneuver, right?
The more buttons to click the more fun!
Enjoy!
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeOh no, clicking a button to activate a special ability takes so much time! The horror!
Seriously dude, it's just some special abilities and formations that DO add depth to the battles. It's not that complicated.
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0 · 1Disagree Agree1. What makes stamina boost-up instantly without being rallied or inspiration to fight?
2. Are units charging slowly if you didn't press rapid advance button? Yes or No?
3. What is your opinion on Trample Ability when charging?
If you don't answer for the 4th time, it's fine...
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeThe fact is special abilities are popular and I honestly don’t think they’re going anywhere.
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1 · 1Disagree 1Agree1. It's just a special ability that gives such a boost.
2. No, they're running, but the special ability makes them run even faster.
3. I don't really have a major opinion on the Trample ability that some heavy cavalry and elephants have, though I think it's just alright, as it gives a major bonus to the charge bonus of units but at the cost of some melee defense, which I think is an alright trade off.
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0 · Disagree Agree2. There’s a difference between your 3rd charge and a rousing.. ‘chaaaarrrge!’
3. This could say something about the mindset of the attacker, stay in the charge longer, take time to injure people on the floor, push the horse further into formations. As apposed to hit and run, which you’d normally do.
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0 · 1Disagree Agree1. Second Wind is a special ability. That's it, no explanation if it could happen with someone therefore why shouldn't everyone. If every units therefore very nice.
2. Rapid Advance will just make soldiers run even faster so he means that charging units don't care about their charge because they need the command first before charging fully with all their might
3. Units don't trample enemies during charge unless commanders ordered them. Very nice!
What is next,
"Brace Abity" - boost the defense when clicked at the right time even though the unit is already braced
"Hide Ability" - units will just disappear if you click at the right time as units will not automatically hida
"Climb up fast Ability" - units will climb ladders and towers even faster if you click this button
Another suggestion since people love Special Abilities.
"Rest Ability" - units stamina will go to fresh from exhausted if you click this button
"Heal Wound Ability" - several units standing up again even though they were stabbed already
"Flaming Blade Ability" - swords and weapins will ignite buffing up charge bonus melee damage
Lots of Abilities, oh yeah!!!
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeBoth dave and I have explained these things to you and you simply REFUSE to accept our answers.
There is nothing wrong with some units having special abilities that do in fact add to the tactical toolbox of TW battles.
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1 · Disagree 1AgreeBow warrior monks
SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Flaming Arrows
Screens
Whistling Arrows
Yes to fitting special abilities.
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1 · Disagree 1AgreeYour answers don't make any sense though....
For the 5th time...
1. Don't units charge with all their might unless you tell them to Rapid Advance? YES or NO?
Like I said, do you want unnecessary buttons which should be default in the first place? YES is your answer, right? You love pressing buttons....
How about if CA implement "Rapid Climb Up", "Brace Ability", "Hide Ability", etc.... Would you like that?
What can you say about "Cavalry Testudo"? Do you like it as well?
It seems you love everything though.....
P.S.
I love tactical abilities like phalanx, testudo, shieldwall, etc... but not those magical and common sense abilities though.... Traits like Rapid Advance, Trample, etc... which became Abilities... sigh!
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