A complete list of all Legendary Lords who are worse than Skrag the Slaughterer

Sagez#6761

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Sagez#6761

Btw guys Grimgor has been added to RoC and he starts in Mountains of Mourn near Greasus (see Astragoth preview). Ogres will get killed even faster than usual.

Captain_Rex#1635

Captain_Rex#1635

Sagez#6761 said:

Btw guys Grimgor has been added to RoC and he starts in Mountains of Mourn near Greasus (see Astragoth preview). Ogres will get killed even faster than usual.

We really need Ghark in the Northern Mountains of Mourn.

DarthEnderX-#6513

Sagez#6761 said:

Btw guys Grimgor has been added to RoC and he starts in Mountains of Mourn near Greasus (see Astragoth preview). Ogres will get killed even faster than usual.

Nah. Grimgor's got more important business now.

Personal business...

Dasraliah#7896

Tretch can probably compete tbh

Arthas_Menethil#3421

DarthEnderX-#6513 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

Btw guys Grimgor has been added to RoC and he starts in Mountains of Mourn near Greasus (see Astragoth preview). Ogres will get killed even faster than usual.

Nah. Grimgor's got more important business now.

Personal business...

He's gotta grease up first before he can deal with his Chaos Dwarf Business.

DarthEnderX-#6513

Arthas_Menethil#3421 said:

He's gotta grease up first before he can deal with his Chaos Dwarf Business.

No. Destroy them before they can begin. Smother them in the crib...

NickCageStoleMyFace#5594

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 said:

Nice to see people disagreeing with my sadness which means they want me to be happy and get multiple Ogre DLCs to fix this issue.

Thanks!

Captain_Rex#1635

DarthEnderX-#6513 said:

Arthas_Menethil#3421 said:

He's gotta grease up first before he can deal with his Chaos Dwarf Business.

No. Destroy them before they can begin. Smother them in the crib...

But where’s the fun in that? 😋

Slayer_Yannir#8069

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Nah, not quite. There's a bunch of others.

Tretch.
Queek.
Aranessa.
Tiktaq'to.
Orion.

Captain_Rex#1635

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Nah, not quite. There's a bunch of others.

Tretch.
Queek.
Aranessa.
Tiktaq'to.
Orion.

They are all better than Skrag and Greasus tho.

Tretch and Tik might be mediocre themselves but they give fine Army buffs.

Queek is actually a Great Duelist and really good at taking out other characters.

Aranessa is okay. She has AL and without a mount she is quite competent. Small target and all that.

Greasus and Skrag are just worse than their generic counterparts. It’s so sad.

Sagez#6761

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Nah, not quite. There's a bunch of others.

Tretch.
Queek.
Aranessa.
Tiktaq'to.
Orion.

Tretch has been buffed and he's fun to use.
Queek is an amazing duellist, he can fight Skarbrand even (he will probably lose, but he is tough!) If we're talking about Skarbrand vs Queek and one unit of slingers I would put my money on Queek.
Aranessa isn't fine, but is better now.
Orion needs a buff, but seriously? (I'm not speaking about his free armies)

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Nah, not quite. There's a bunch of others.

Tretch.
Queek.
Aranessa.
Tiktaq'to.
Orion.

None of those are even bad.

Maedrethnir#1968

Alberic the Generic is the worst of them all. The only LL in the game without his own unique model, voice lines and animations.

Sagez#6761

Maedrethnir#1968 said:

Alberic the Generic is the worst of them all. The only LL in the game without his own unique model, voice lines and animations.

Yes, he is bad, but he has at least decent unique items. Well, AI can play him too, he can sometimes make an empire in Lustria.

Zynister#9025

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Or could it be you do not know how to play orgres

I find skrag good enough i recently completed a campaign long victory with him.

It was fine

Farstead___________#2392

I don't like playing Ogre Kingdoms at all, to me they were kind of disappointing.

I do like that they are there though as an faction. Like to fight them and like to ally with them and get some ogres in my armies when possible.

I am hoping we will get some kind of rework or extra content that makes them more fun to play.

SettraDoesNotSimp#5603

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Are you playing a game version without Khazrak?

afverrall#1754

The ogre LLs have issues.

Bobsyourankle#7897

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Nah, not quite. There's a bunch of others.

Tretch.
Queek.
Aranessa.
Tiktaq'to.
Orion.

Ummm. No

Guillermidas#6283

Would be nice to more campaigns in RoC map, even if CA make them a bit vanilla t objectives.

Snitch, Oxyolt, Kroq-Gar, Karl Franz, Ungrim, Grimgor, Wulfrik, Throgg, Vlad, and Throt, to name the ones that make sense the most.

Perhaps even Morgiana leading a crusade somewhere against Chaos to spice things.

Sagez#6761

SettraDoesNotSimp#5603 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Are you playing a game version without Khazrak?

He is useful, fast, good ambushes, buffs infantry - that's all good!

Sagez#6761

Zynister#9025 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Or could it be you do not know how to play orgres

I find skrag good enough i recently completed a campaign long victory with him.

It was fine

could it be you have a skill issue, especially with spelling ''Ogres''?
looks like skill issue to me

Pr4vda#6038

I agree that the OK LL are worst than their generic Lords. Tyrans are great.

Tennisgolfboll#5877

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Not much to add. A really complete list. Well done.

Slayer_Yannir#8069

Sagez#6761 said:

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Nah, not quite. There's a bunch of others.

Tretch.
Queek.
Aranessa.
Tiktaq'to.
Orion.

Tretch has been buffed and he's fun to use.
Queek is an amazing duellist, he can fight Skarbrand even (he will probably lose, but he is tough!) If we're talking about Skarbrand vs Queek and one unit of slingers I would put my money on Queek.
Aranessa isn't fine, but is better now.
Orion needs a buff, but seriously? (I'm not speaking about his free armies)

Tretch is exactly the same as he was in game 2. His starting location is better but he still brings absolutely nothing you want from a skaven lord.
Queek is one of a select few LL that actively harms your faction. And he's not that great of a duelist... He has the Grimgor-issue without actually being good in melee, unlike Grimgor himself.
Tretch is honestly IMO the better of these 2. Atleast he's not actively bad, just not very useful.

Aranessa is exactly the same as she was in game 2. Her mount is absolute crap and on foot she gets bullied by practically everyone, even generic lords and heroes. She can't even beat an Empire Captain!

TTT atleast gets free flyers so his army is good but the best use for he himself is to stow him in the furthest corner of the map, and hope he doesn't get in the way. He's supposed to be good in the air but he actually just loses to anything and everything. Even a single unit of Carrion can get him to half hp.

I did genuinely forget that they mostly fixed Orion a while back. So we can scratch that.

By comparison, Skrag and Greasus aren't too bad. They both buff good units, Gorgers were a bit overnerfed but I expect CA to fix that sometime. Greasus will beat the absolute breaks off of any Tyrant he fights. Against the AI the low speed isn't a huge deal since the AI probably won't kite you. Skrag is a good spellcaster and can summon Gorgers. He's also a vastly better fighter than any common Slaughtermaster.

#167327

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

By comparison, Skrag and Greasus aren't too bad. They both buff good units, Gorgers were a bit overnerfed but I expect CA to fix that sometime. Greasus will beat the absolute breaks off of any Tyrant he fights. Against the AI the low speed isn't a huge deal since the AI probably won't kite you. Skrag is a good spellcaster and can summon Gorgers. He's also a vastly better fighter than any common Slaughtermaster.

1. Neither Gorgers or Ironguts are very good, and Greasus doesn't meaningfully buff Ironguts at all, they're just cheaper for him. Skraggs cauldron is his only real Gorger buff and it's quite janky in how it works.
2. Greaus will sometimes paste a Tyrant, and more frequently he'll get pasted instead, because his model and animations are horrible. Overall a generic Tyrant is far more reliably useful in a scrap than Greasus, heck even their great names are better.
3. Skrag is no a better of a caster than any generic slaughtermaster, and barely better than a sidegrade in terms of combat stats. Generic Slaughtermasters also get innate regen, which is better than any of Skrags skills except the gorger summon
4. Overall Skrag is arguably slightly better than a generic Slaughtermaster, and Greasus is vastly inferior to a generic Tyrant. They both suck and deserve the title of worst legendary lords in the game.

#568367

Captain_Rex#1635 said:

Slayer_Yannir#8069 said:

Sagez#6761 said:

1. Greasus Goldtooth

Nah, not quite. There's a bunch of others.

Tretch.
Queek.
Aranessa.
Tiktaq'to.
Orion.

They are all better than Skrag and Greasus tho.

Tretch and Tik might be mediocre themselves but they give fine Army buffs.

Queek is actually a Great Duelist and really good at taking out other characters.

Aranessa is okay. She has AL and without a mount she is quite competent. Small target and all that.

Greasus and Skrag are just worse than their generic counterparts. It’s so sad.

Foot Duelists are by far the worst Lord types in the game. Take Queek for example. He offers zero utility to the army except the ability to fight 1v1. He lacks the mobility to reach priority targets to do what he's meant to do because any half decent players can just kite Queek all day with their most likely faster Lords and Heroes or run interference with low value chaff.

Skrag atleast provides his army with spellcasting support.