The Campaign Goal of the Chaos Dwarfs: Kill their own god and savior.

TheWattman#7460

The campaign goal of the Chaos Dwarfs are to construct a drill, then drill into the realm of their own god and finally, steal his blood in order to conquer the world. I feel like there needs to be a conversation here, because it sure sounds like they are gonna kill their own god in order to conquer the world. Not only is this a cheap self-contained copy of the Ursun campaign of the core races, but it also seems incredibly ungrateful on the part of the Chaos Dwarfs.

I mean Hashut was their saviour during the Great Catastrophe and now, drilling down to take his blood seems like a clear breach of the pact they once made. Like, is Hashut okay with this and if he was, wouldn't he just appear and let his followers take his blood? And besides, if Hashut was destroyed, wouldn't the Sorceror-Prophets lose their power and the Chaos Dwarfs overall lose their corruption to just go back to being regular Dwarfs?

What do you guys think of this campaign story?

Ariel#4992

Well, the deal they made with Hashut is not that great. They survived but they hate everyone and everything, they are mutated and their leaders slowly turn to stone. I would be not surprised if they were in love-hate relationship with their god. We shall see what the story will be like but I think it’s not out of the realm of possibilities that if there was a way to take Hashuts blood and use it to dominate all life, the Dawi-Zharr would be the ones to take it. Let’s not forget that they abbandoned their previous gods to survive.

JungleElf#8229

They don't want to kill him.

Passthechips#4366

To my knowledge, the Blood of Hashut is a material like warpstone. I don’t necessarily think it’s his literal blood, but I could be wrong there.

Surge_2#1464

I mean, killing one's God to take over the world, sounds metal.

DarthEnderX-#6513

Passthechips#4366 said:

To my knowledge, the Blood of Hashut is a material like warpstone. I don’t necessarily think it’s his literal blood, but I could be wrong there.

Seems to be the case.

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Blood_of_Hashut

They're basically building a giant drill to drill for magic oil.

Surge_2#1464

DarthEnderX-#6513 said:

Passthechips#4366 said:

To my knowledge, the Blood of Hashut is a material like warpstone. I don’t necessarily think it’s his literal blood, but I could be wrong there.

Seems to be the case.

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Blood_of_Hashut

They're basically building a giant drill to drill for magic oil.

Lol perfect.

They are industry gone crazy.
Pollution, exploitation.

Drilling for oil, or God blood, to further their excessive drives for industry, capitalism* to their own detriment??

Checks out.

cruxv#8645

They are not trying to kill Hashut. The Blood of Hashut is basically magic oil they need to build weapons/demon engines etc. The Drill is simply the device they need to breach in order to obtain potentially unlimited or close to it amounts of this magical oil.

TheWattman#7460

Huh, seems like I interpreted the Blood of Hashut wrong then. Could've sworn it was his own blood though considering they need to drill down to his realm to get it.

JungleElf#8229

Don't they want to drown the world with it, too?

Nyxilis#3646

They are not trying to kill him, it's effectively a magical stuff.

However, this isn't exactly unprecedented even if they did. Multiple Chaos Worshipers want to destroy or usurp a Chaos god. In fact a good chunk do. Our Everchosen wants them all dead, he despises them. Chaos is Chaos, and it's often ruled literally by brawn and wiles to maintain position or just the sheer overwhelming power they control. Not because their followers are that dependable not to backstab.

hcaste47#3002

TheWattman#7460 said:

What do you guys think of this campaign story?

I think that the jumps you took to reach your conclusion are taller than any dwarf has ever been!

Which is... not a lot

TheWattman#7460

hcaste47#3002 said:

I think that the jumps you took to reach your conclusion are taller than any dwarf has ever been!

Which is... not a lot

Not that far fetched when you are drilling down to the realm of your own god to take the blood of your own god.

davedave1124#4773

I’ve seen a few YouTubers state this about killing their god. Either they have info we’ve not seen or they’re reaching a little.

LennoxPoodle#1380

A) magical oil thingy.
b) Chaos Worshippers and Dawi Zharr in particular are in it for the benefits and what they can gain from their deity. It's a transactional relationship rather than pure piety and devotion. So if they can kill their got and just grab the power they want, it's only fitting for them to jump at the chance.

Captain_Rex#1635

There is a narrative in IE?

Surge_2#1464

Captain_Rex#1635 said:

There is a narrative in IE?

Could be their Long Campaign Victory, but its probably the 'not RoC' campaign.

Sir_Godspeed#8395

Passthechips#4366 said:

To my knowledge, the Blood of Hashut is a material like warpstone. I don’t necessarily think it’s his literal blood, but I could be wrong there.

Yeah, it's a magical analogy for petroleum.

Sir_Godspeed#8395

davedave1124#4773 said:

I’ve seen a few YouTubers state this about killing their god. Either they have info we’ve not seen or they’re reaching a little.

It's like when when youtubers all seem to talk about Ulthuan literally floating on the waves. It doesn't. It's geologically unstable and will collapse if the Vortex is broken, but it is connected to the seafloor. It has volcanoes.

A lot of people take metaphors at face value.

Draxynnic#3149

Sir_Godspeed#8395 said:

davedave1124#4773 said:

I’ve seen a few YouTubers state this about killing their god. Either they have info we’ve not seen or they’re reaching a little.

It's like when when youtubers all seem to talk about Ulthuan literally floating on the waves. It doesn't. It's geologically unstable and will collapse if the Vortex is broken, but it is connected to the seafloor. It has volcanoes.

A lot of people take metaphors at face value.

In 8E, that doesn't seem to be the case. It's noted that Ulthuan floating since the Sundering is why the Skaven haven't been able to infiltrate it by their normal way, but they were able to send submarines under it (although that can be interpreted as simply going under the Gates of Lothern). There is fluff to the effect that the volcanoes have mostly been cooling, and those that haven't might be being heated through magical means (as a holy site for Vaul, some form of stress in the magic keeping Ulthuan afloat, or possibly simply because they naturally attract Aqshy) rather than being connected to the mantle.

Personally, I don't like the "Ulthuan is literally floating" idea myself - smacks a bit too much of introducing another 40K concept into fantasy Elves (Black Arks are made from small pieces of Ulthuan, so those small pieces are magical ships, that kinda means that Ulthuan itself is basically a continent-sized ship that isn't truly a fixed part of the planet any more, basically making it a Fantasy equivalent to a Craftworld). But it does appear to be what GW went with.

In the context of this thread, the 'Blood of Hashut' doesn't appear to be literal, although consideration does have to be made of the possibility that bleeding Hashut wouldn't necessarily significantly hurt him, let alone kill him. He might even want to have more of his blood in the mortal world for one reason or another.

lcmiracle#6727

Blood of Hashut is oil