So...Hobgoblins?

#786862

I was checking last trailer again and I'm started to feel bit worried that they finally have reused animations and models from Goblins for the new hobgoblins
According to the lore these new greenskins are bigger than regular goblins... but I'm not sure that they have represented that ingame.
Finally I had to check ingame if there were differences between gnoblars and goblins (sizewise).I was pretty sure that there were different....and my surprise again was that the share the exacts same size, anims and so on...
If finally that's the case with hobgoblins would be a shame, all those small details give flavor and variety to the game. Despite this is something that I don't like, I understand somehow that they reuse some models or anims, but come on even in blood bowl represented it, would have been great (and super easy) just resize them a bit more...

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PhoenixKingMalekith#5710

Blood Bowl hobgoblins were perfect, in my opinion.

Maedrethnir#1968

Side by side comparison between the Goblin Big Boss and Gorduz Backstabber should leave little doubt. Hobgoblins won't have unique skeletons. They won't look loreful, that is they won't be taller and their limbs won't be longer.

The Blood Bowl model is true to the source material.

CountTalabecland#2471

The bloodbowl hobgoblins is weirdly human looking and uncanny.

CA handled them correctly.

**** ppl will make a “controversy” out of anything.

CA reuses assets and animations, they always have. I don’t love it but don’t pretend to be shocked.

Maedrethnir#1968

CountTalabecland#2471 said:

The bloodbowl hobgoblins is weirdly human looking and uncanny.

CA handled them correctly.

**** ppl will make a “controversy” out of anything.

CA reuses assets and animations, they always have. I don’t love it but don’t pretend to be shocked.

That's not true.

Hobgoblins:





Goblins:




Hobgoblins are supposed to be their subspecies.

ROUNDABOUT0#2768

I had hoped for more unique hobgoblins, with longer limbs etc.

From the lore theyre definitely a unique subspecies, and thier lore, models and art make them seem to be roughly human sized and proportioned.

Right now theyre just goblins

Dasraliah#7896

They are clearly taller than goblins. Which is all that makes them different, in lore and in game. So yeah, they are taller goblins. They have the same proportions

Maedrethnir#1968

Dasraliah#7896 said:

They are clearly taller than goblins. Which is all that makes them different, in lore and in game. So yeah, they are taller goblins. They have the same proportions

They also are built differently, as it is shown by the miniatures I posted above.

hillbillymachinegun2#1031

After seeing what they did with the snotlings on the pump wagons, just making them full size, purple, wart covered goblins when they should have been the size of Nurglings, did anyone honestly expect they'd do anything different with the Hobgoblins?

#786862

I mean, I understand that that there are people who don't really bother this issue, and take it as a super small detail, but lorewise, making them bigger or a bit different, I feel that should have been the correct way to deal with them, because how do you justify that there was a racial war between these three species goblins, orks and hobgoblins that caused that the first two now are slaves...if you simply use exact sames guys to represent the traitors?

Other than that, looking foward to future DLCs I think that if they finally don't use new stuff for the hobgoblins it could be an indicative of the CA's plans for this minor race, because being realistic, I dont see CA selling a new race that it's a simply reskin of the current goblins

General_Hijalti#1213

Maedrethnir#1968 said:

Dasraliah#7896 said:

They are clearly taller than goblins. Which is all that makes them different, in lore and in game. So yeah, they are taller goblins. They have the same proportions

They also are built differently, as it is shown by the miniatures I posted above.

Comparing 8th and 4th edition minis isn't valid

Maedrethnir#1968

General_Hijalti#1213 said:

Maedrethnir#1968 said:

Dasraliah#7896 said:

They are clearly taller than goblins. Which is all that makes them different, in lore and in game. So yeah, they are taller goblins. They have the same proportions

They also are built differently, as it is shown by the miniatures I posted above.

Comparing 8th and 4th edition minis isn't valid

Fair.

4ED Night Goblins:



4ED Hobgoblins:

General_Hijalti#1213

They look thr same but slightly bigger just like in the game

eomat#7953

I noticed the slash attack effect that the Steed of Slaanesh have when they attacked. It looks a little arcade. No too fond of that.

But where is my Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower!!!

Maedrethnir#1968

General_Hijalti#1213 said:

They look thr same but slightly bigger just like in the game

I strongly disagree. The body of a Hobgoblin in relation to a Goblin is characterised by having a longer torso and limbs.

DarthEnderX-#6513

Not just Big Gobs. Lanky Gobs.

cruxv#8645

From the lore Hobgoblins are human sized with long limbs and most of them are slim but wiry muscular build. They definitely are bigger than goblins but not as big as Orcs. I will be disappointed if the in game Hobgoblins are the same size as goblins.

#786862

Ok so, some interesting that I just found is that despite of all of them have exact same size in the asset editor they can display different sizes ingame,
I thought that only lords and heroes had different sizes ingame ,then, different models, but it seems that is not like that
all share skeletons anims and sizes (asset editor) but present sigtly different sizes ingame

This give me some hope that they can be represented more acurately after all

Maedrethnir#1968

#786862 said:

Ok so, some interesting that I just found is that despite of all of them have exact same size in the asset editor they can display different sizes ingame,
I thought that only lords and heroes had different sizes ingame ,then, different models, but it seems that is not like that
all share skeletons anims and sizes (asset editor) but present sigtly different sizes ingame

This give me some hope that they can be represented more acurately after all

It's better than nothing, but it won't address the main problem with the race.

TheWattman#7460

I was a bit sceptical of their size as well in the trailer, thought they looked more like regular night goblins or something. I mean Hobgoblins are supposed to be almost man-size, they should tower over the Chaos Dwarfs.