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As the most major character Slaanesh has besides Dechala and FLC-material Masque. So prominent he ended up being a lieutenant of Archaon. But WoC don't need more Slaanesh characters. If Archaon do gets his lieutenants, go with original Vandred.
The thing is that the LP will land on the RoC map, which is ill-suited for strictly naval campaigns. It offers no freedom of expansion that the water-based LLs are known for in the game.
Finubar the Seafarer was born in Lothern, rules from Lothern and is very much connected to maritime culture of the place. In addition, he has strong ties with Cothique. There is no sea unit that wouldn't fit him. Finubar has an interest in adventures, and the Amulet of Sunfire hangs on the horizon. Game2 established a connection between the Blessings of Lileath and the Phoenix Kings. The very name of the jewelry piece fits the profile.
His LP would be first and foremost about exploring Asuryan and the Phoenix King themes.
1. You're ignoring the possibility of map expansions and IE-only DLCs. 2. Funny how you think a character called the Seafarer doesn't connect with a naval theme 3. Lothern is already ruled by Tyrion, reflecting exactly the state of things in the lore, with Finubar just hanging around the courtroom and his chambers. Would be weird to have a race-leader that doesn't start in the race capital.
As the most major character Slaanesh has besides Dechala and FLC-material Masque. So prominent he ended up being a lieutenant of Archaon. But WoC don't need more Slaanesh characters. If Archaon do gets his lieutenants, go with original Vandred.
He is not prominent at all. He's just a generic Chaos Lord with Mark of Slaanesh that can be called a prototype of Sigvald at best.
No, thank you, but I'm not interested. I would much prefer if the final HE LP end the race on a high note, The Asur should get Asuryan-themed DLC.
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The Phoenix King Finubar the Seafarer offers a flexibility of naval and land forces focus, and ties all the remaining potential characters.
Isn’t every other character land focused tho, would rather get a full focus than a half. Anointed can always be an FLC.
Besides Sea Helm and Merwyrm fit Aislinn more. Tyrion rules land military, while Aislinn rules sea military. Finubar has no interest in it.
The thing is that the LP will land on the RoC map, which is ill-suited for strictly naval campaigns. It offers no freedom of expansion that the water-based LLs are known for in the game.
Finubar the Seafarer was born in Lothern, rules from Lothern and is very much connected to maritime culture of the place. In addition, he has strong ties with Cothique. There is no sea unit that wouldn't fit him. Finubar has an interest in adventures, and the Amulet of Sunfire hangs on the horizon. Game2 established a connection between the Blessings of Lileath and the Phoenix Kings. The very name of the jewelry piece fits the profile.
His LP would be first and foremost about exploring Asuryan and the Phoenix King themes.
Or he'd be the perfect quest giver for Aislinn (and the center point of a greatly reworked Phoenix court mechanic applying to all HE LL. BUT we had that discussion often enough. I kinda doubt any new arguments will turn up.
As the most major character Slaanesh has besides Dechala and FLC-material Masque. So prominent he ended up being a lieutenant of Archaon. But WoC don't need more Slaanesh characters. If Archaon do gets his lieutenants, go with original Vandred.
The thing is that the LP will land on the RoC map, which is ill-suited for strictly naval campaigns. It offers no freedom of expansion that the water-based LLs are known for in the game.
Finubar the Seafarer was born in Lothern, rules from Lothern and is very much connected to maritime culture of the place. In addition, he has strong ties with Cothique. There is no sea unit that wouldn't fit him. Finubar has an interest in adventures, and the Amulet of Sunfire hangs on the horizon. Game2 established a connection between the Blessings of Lileath and the Phoenix Kings. The very name of the jewelry piece fits the profile.
His LP would be first and foremost about exploring Asuryan and the Phoenix King themes.
1. You're ignoring the possibility of map expansions and IE-only DLCs. 2. Funny how you think a character called the Seafarer doesn't connect with a naval theme 3. Lothern is already ruled by Tyrion, reflecting exactly the state of things in the lore, with Finubar just hanging around the courtroom and his chambers. Would be weird to have a race-leader that doesn't start in the race capital.
1. I doubt that the potential map expansion would affect seas in a significant manner. And I very much doubt IE-only LPs will be a thing. 2. Excuse me? I explicitly said that he combines naval and land themes. They are part of the current Phoenix King's theme. 3. In the lore, Tyrion spends most of his time in Avelorn. It wouldn't be weird because Finubar is a known voyager and Tyrion is known as the Defender of Ulthuan. In the Phoenix King's absence, it's up to him to defend the Ten Kingdoms.
Plus, Finubar's importance is incomparably greater to all the remaining possible characters.
No, thank you, but I'm not interested. I would much prefer if the final HE LP end the race on a high note, The Asur should get Asuryan-themed DLC.
The Chosen and the Denied
The Phoenix King Finubar the Seafarer offers a flexibility of naval and land forces focus, and ties all the remaining potential characters.
Isn’t every other character land focused tho, would rather get a full focus than a half. Anointed can always be an FLC.
Besides Sea Helm and Merwyrm fit Aislinn more. Tyrion rules land military, while Aislinn rules sea military. Finubar has no interest in it.
The thing is that the LP will land on the RoC map, which is ill-suited for strictly naval campaigns. It offers no freedom of expansion that the water-based LLs are known for in the game.
Finubar the Seafarer was born in Lothern, rules from Lothern and is very much connected to maritime culture of the place. In addition, he has strong ties with Cothique. There is no sea unit that wouldn't fit him. Finubar has an interest in adventures, and the Amulet of Sunfire hangs on the horizon. Game2 established a connection between the Blessings of Lileath and the Phoenix Kings. The very name of the jewelry piece fits the profile.
His LP would be first and foremost about exploring Asuryan and the Phoenix King themes.
Or he'd be the perfect quest giver for Aislinn (and the center point of a greatly reworked Phoenix court mechanic applying to all HE LL. BUT we had that discussion often enough. I kinda doubt any new arguments will turn up.
That is most certainly not the definition of perfection I subscribe to. Speaking about courts, the Everqueen and her court too should apply to all HE LLs.
As the most major character Slaanesh has besides Dechala and FLC-material Masque. So prominent he ended up being a lieutenant of Archaon. But WoC don't need more Slaanesh characters. If Archaon do gets his lieutenants, go with original Vandred.
He is not prominent at all. He's just a generic Chaos Lord with Mark of Slaanesh that can be called a prototype of Sigvald at best.
This, none of the 4 are LL material, if anything they should be Minor Faction lords
1. I doubt that the potential map expansion would affect seas in a significant manner. And I very much doubt IE-only LPs will be a thing. 2. Excuse me? I explicitly said that he combines naval and land themes. They are part of the current Phoenix King's theme. 3. In the lore, Tyrion spends most of his time in Avelorn. It wouldn't be weird because Finubar is a known voyager and Tyrion is known as the Defender of Ulthuan. In the Phoenix King's absence, it's up to him to defend the Ten Kingdoms.
Plus, Finubar's importance is incomparably greater to all the remaining possible characters.
It could exand west to easily fit a significant part of ocean, more of Bretonnia and possibly a bit of Naggaroth. And I agree with Finubar's dejure importance, but he certainly hasn't made a big impact on the lore as a whole or for Ulthuan itself. Hence a better place for him is at the centre of a revamped phoenix court mechanic.
1. I doubt that the potential map expansion would affect seas in a significant manner. And I very much doubt IE-only LPs will be a thing. 2. Excuse me? I explicitly said that he combines naval and land themes. They are part of the current Phoenix King's theme. 3. In the lore, Tyrion spends most of his time in Avelorn. It wouldn't be weird because Finubar is a known voyager and Tyrion is known as the Defender of Ulthuan. In the Phoenix King's absence, it's up to him to defend the Ten Kingdoms.
Plus, Finubar's importance is incomparably greater to all the remaining possible characters.
It could exand west to easily fit a significant part of ocean, more of Bretonnia and possibly a bit of Naggaroth. And I agree with Finubar's dejure importance, but he certainly hasn't made a big impact on the lore as a whole or for Ulthuan itself. Hence a better place for him is at the centre of a revamped phoenix court mechanic.
New CA/GW created lord would be better than Styrkaar, otherwise if Syll'Esske appear in the Old World, maybe them.
Like if Styrkaar happen, should Tzeentch get Mellek, Khorne getting Hagroth, and Nurgle getting Feytor ?
Like they are not character that have major influence and fan following
New CA/GW created lord would be better than Styrkaar, otherwise if Syll'Esske appear in the Old World, maybe them.
Like if Styrkaar happen, should Tzeentch get Mellek, Khorne getting Hagroth, and Nurgle getting Feytor ?
Like they are not character that have major influence and fan following
No, if they do appear they go to Archaon as unique leaders. The other gods have an apt amount of bigger characters, Slaanesh is in short supply. Besides, Slaanesh has the advantage of offering Vandred the Majestic to Archaon while keeping Styrkaar for themselves.
Slaanesh should be happy, Because c.a. screwed them brutally.
Where’s this coming from? Slaanesh was one of the more well received Monogods.
I think it’s highly possible Slaanesh gets new units that did not exist in WHFB. They’ll get equivalent mortal units to what Khorne/Nurgle received, and Daemons that transcend the setting.
Slaanesh should be happy, Because c.a. screwed them brutally.
Where’s this coming from? Slaanesh was one of the more well received Monogods.
I think it’s highly possible Slaanesh gets new units that did not exist in WHFB. They’ll get equivalent mortal units to what Khorne/Nurgle received, and Daemons that transcend the setting.
This is almost a given really.
Half his important characters are in another roster.
It's less that CA shafted Slaanesh and more like CA shafted the Monogod, but it's more problematic on Slaanesh which was the race which had the least already
It's less that CA shafted Slaanesh and more like CA shafted the Monogod, but it's more problematic on Slaanesh which was the race which had the least already
Khorne still has 3 big named characters Abraal Skulltaker Scyla Anfingrimm (Rage on)
Nurgle has Tamurkhan Epidemius Valnir
And tzeentch has The Changeling Blue Scribes Egrimm
I don't think just re-colouring dark elf troops achives anything. It devalues dark elves and denies slannesh a unique roster.
Dark elves aren't as a race slannesh worshipers and people grossly overstate the realtionship and its getting annoying. Just giving huge portions of a rsce to another faction with an upgrade is just horrible.
I don't think just re-colouring dark elf troops achives anything. It devalues dark elves and denies slannesh a unique roster.
Dark elves aren't as a race slannesh worshipers and people grossly overstate the realtionship and its getting annoying. Just giving huge portions of a rsce to another faction with an upgrade is just horrible.
Well since AoS stuff seems to be off the table for the moment, the Cult of Slaanesh is the most obvious source for Slaanesh additions besides the missing mortal variants and the Beastmen, in themselves not that many either. You don't have to implement the entire army list, but some units from there will have to come if Slaanesh has any hope of going beyond just one LP.
It's less that CA shafted Slaanesh and more like CA shafted the Monogod, but it's more problematic on Slaanesh which was the race which had the least already
Khorne still has 5 big named characters Arbaal Skulltaker Skarr Bloodwrath LH: Scyla Anfingrimm LH: Karanak
Nurgle has Tamurkhan Epidemius Glottkin Gutrot Spume
And tzeentch has The Changeling Blue Scribes Egrimm Aekold Hellbrass Galrauch
I don't think just re-colouring dark elf troops achives anything. It devalues dark elves and denies slannesh a unique roster.
Dark elves aren't as a race slannesh worshipers and people grossly overstate the realtionship and its getting annoying. Just giving huge portions of a rsce to another faction with an upgrade is just horrible.
Well since AoS stuff seems to be off the table for the moment, the Cult of Slaanesh is the most obvious source for Slaanesh additions besides the missing mortal variants and the Beastmen, in themselves not that many either. You don't have to implement the entire army list, but some units from there will have to come if Slaanesh has any hope of going beyond just one LP.
A few units maybe but not a half another races roster as paid content. CA has homebrewed content before which is far preferable to poaching huge chunks of another factions roster.
A much better way of handling it would be to allow morathi access to some marked slannesh units and allow her to mark certain dark elf units and dechela would like arhkan be allowed some dark elf units 2-3 at most. In addition to the dlc units.
If we do get another High Elf DLC, why would we get Aislinn before any of the missing special characters that had actual rules (Belannaer, Caradyran or Korhill)? Or the actual Phoenix King who was a prominent part of the lore from 3rd edition onwards rather then some generic named lord with about a paragraph of lore?
If we do get another High Elf DLC, why would we get Aislinn before any of the missing special characters that had actual rules (Belannaer, Caradyran or Korhill)? Or the actual Phoenix King who was a prominent part of the lore from 3rd edition onwards rather then some generic named lord with about a paragraph of lore?
Well, 1+ of those special characters is gonna be a hero, judging by what they said about LH. Finnubar is good at delegating and sticking to the big picture, making him perfect for a race transcending mechanic. Also he did have even less rules than Aislinn. Ultimately it's about theme though. The Asur's foreign presence always had close ties to the Navy and this is most likely gonna be a kind of expedition away from home thing. Furthermore there are the Sky cutter and Merwyrm reinforcing that naval thing.
This makes me sad. Dechala should've really been the Slaaneshi CoC with Azazel being reserved for Slaanesh proper. She has her own (very chariot focused) warband after all.
Just wanted to follow up on this, her warband is called The Tormentors and her warriors are noted to primarily do battle on chariots.
Additionally, her speciality is the "Elixir of Damnation", made from "...an unholy blend of sacrificial blood, warpstone, and vile fluids of her fornication" in one source, "...fluids from corpses, mixed with blood tainted with warpstone" in another. This she forces on her captives, which turns them into delirious slaves which mutate more and more until they're nothing more than "...quivering mass(es) of flesh." (aka, Chaos Spawn.)
Going off of that, she should really be a Chariot/Spawn focussed lord.
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Also, in an End Times novel it (very briefly) mentions that she was in Ind (alongside Arbaal) "...bringing the wrath of the gods down on that far land..." until they were both magically transported to Middenheim to help out Archaon. (Which is dumb storytelling, but does give her a bit of a canonical reason to be somewhere in that area.)
As the most major character Slaanesh has besides Dechala and FLC-material Masque. So prominent he ended up being a lieutenant of Archaon. But WoC don't need more Slaanesh characters. If Archaon do gets his lieutenants, go with original Vandred.
He is not prominent at all. He's just a generic Chaos Lord with Mark of Slaanesh that can be called a prototype of Sigvald at best.
Plus I'm fairly certain that Strykaar's model was used for the CoC Slaanesh generic lord anyway.
1. I doubt that the potential map expansion would affect seas in a significant manner. And I very much doubt IE-only LPs will be a thing. 2. Excuse me? I explicitly said that he combines naval and land themes. They are part of the current Phoenix King's theme. 3. In the lore, Tyrion spends most of his time in Avelorn. It wouldn't be weird because Finubar is a known voyager and Tyrion is known as the Defender of Ulthuan. In the Phoenix King's absence, it's up to him to defend the Ten Kingdoms.
Plus, Finubar's importance is incomparably greater to all the remaining possible characters.
It could exand west to easily fit a significant part of ocean, more of Bretonnia and possibly a bit of Naggaroth. And I agree with Finubar's dejure importance, but he certainly hasn't made a big impact on the lore as a whole or for Ulthuan itself. Hence a better place for him is at the centre of a revamped phoenix court mechanic.
I do not share the optimism in regards to the RoC map expansion. Not that it would change my position anyway.
The Phoenix King Finubar made a gigantic impact on the lore. This is how 8ED Dark Elf AB of all things describes his achievements:
All the alliances he forged, and the relations he improved are very much important to the setting.
In my mind he is nigh confirmed to be playable in the Old World, where he might be present during his travels, and definitely during the Druchii invasion, where he led one of the armies against the main enemy host. It would make sense for GW to use TW:WH for free advertisement.
GW has a lot of work to do in order to hype the Phoenix King after the End Times.
1. I doubt that the potential map expansion would affect seas in a significant manner. And I very much doubt IE-only LPs will be a thing. 2. Excuse me? I explicitly said that he combines naval and land themes. They are part of the current Phoenix King's theme. 3. In the lore, Tyrion spends most of his time in Avelorn. It wouldn't be weird because Finubar is a known voyager and Tyrion is known as the Defender of Ulthuan. In the Phoenix King's absence, it's up to him to defend the Ten Kingdoms.
Plus, Finubar's importance is incomparably greater to all the remaining possible characters.
It could exand west to easily fit a significant part of ocean, more of Bretonnia and possibly a bit of Naggaroth. And I agree with Finubar's dejure importance, but he certainly hasn't made a big impact on the lore as a whole or for Ulthuan itself. Hence a better place for him is at the centre of a revamped phoenix court mechanic.
New CA/GW created lord would be better than Styrkaar, otherwise if Syll'Esske appear in the Old World, maybe them.
Like if Styrkaar happen, should Tzeentch get Mellek, Khorne getting Hagroth, and Nurgle getting Feytor ?
Like they are not character that have major influence and fan following
There's that older edition Kislevite silver chick turned Slaaneshi mohawk caster/cultist. Can't recall her name and I'm on 10 minute break rn so can't look it up, but @Red_Dox#2328 did an entry on her a while back. She's admittedly a Ghost tier character but wildly different from any other chaos character. I think she'd be fantastic as a LL option.
Ultimately it's about theme though. The Asur's foreign presence always had close ties to the Navy and this is most likely gonna be a kind of expedition away from home thing. Furthermore there are the Sky cutter and Merwyrm reinforcing that naval thing.
Assuming we are going to get a naval theme DLC for High Elves, Finubar the Seafarer wouldn't be a better choice? You could use the generic High Elf Prince rules to represent him if you wanted to play him on the TT just as Aislinn was. I'm not saying Finubar should even get to be a LL, just that the three special characters that were represented with rules in various versions of the army books should get in before either Finubar or Aislinn.
Given the current High Elf Intrigue at Court mechanic is awful as it influences diplomacy which is at best an afterthought in TWW at worst basically pointless. I'm not 100% sure giving them a naval DLC when naval stuff is again at best an afterthought at worst pointless doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Maybe CA will do a full naval overhaul of the game alongside it but I wouldn't hold my breath and I'm sure my wallet would not be very happy with the massive price increase that would entail.
Assuming we are going to get a naval theme DLC for High Elves, Finubar the Seafarer wouldn't be a better choice? You could use the generic High Elf Prince rules to represent him if you wanted to play him on the TT just as Aislinn was. I'm not saying Finubar should even get to be a LL, just that the three special characters that were represented with rules in various versions of the army books should get in before either Finubar or Aislinn.
Given the current High Elf Intrigue at Court mechanic is awful as it influences diplomacy which is at best an afterthought in TWW at worst basically pointless. I'm not 100% sure giving them a naval DLC when naval stuff is again at best an afterthought at worst pointless doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Maybe CA will do a full naval overhaul of the game alongside it but I wouldn't hold my breath and I'm sure my wallet would not be very happy with the massive price increase that would entail.
1. Finubar is not a perticularly active king, Tyrion and Teclis do all the heavy lifting 2. Those characters you mention are better served as heroes 3. A naval themed DLC would naturally come alongside a High Elf rework that updates the Court mechanic.
Ultimately it's about theme though. The Asur's foreign presence always had close ties to the Navy and this is most likely gonna be a kind of expedition away from home thing. Furthermore there are the Sky cutter and Merwyrm reinforcing that naval thing.
Assuming we are going to get a naval theme DLC for High Elves, Finubar the Seafarer wouldn't be a better choice? You could use the generic High Elf Prince rules to represent him if you wanted to play him on the TT just as Aislinn was. I'm not saying Finubar should even get to be a LL, just that the three special characters that were represented with rules in various versions of the army books should get in before either Finubar or Aislinn.
Given the current High Elf Intrigue at Court mechanic is awful as it influences diplomacy which is at best an afterthought in TWW at worst basically pointless. I'm not 100% sure giving them a naval DLC when naval stuff is again at best an afterthought at worst pointless doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Maybe CA will do a full naval overhaul of the game alongside it but I wouldn't hold my breath and I'm sure my wallet would not be very happy with the massive price increase that would entail.
He most certainly would be a better choice. As you have rightly noted before, even from the marketimg perspective, the Phoenix King carries a lot more weight than Aislinn. If not Finubar, then I wouldn't mind Caradryan LP. The Asur should have Asuryan-themed LP.
Ultimately it's about theme though. The Asur's foreign presence always had close ties to the Navy and this is most likely gonna be a kind of expedition away from home thing. Furthermore there are the Sky cutter and Merwyrm reinforcing that naval thing.
Assuming we are going to get a naval theme DLC for High Elves, Finubar the Seafarer wouldn't be a better choice? You could use the generic High Elf Prince rules to represent him if you wanted to play him on the TT just as Aislinn was. I'm not saying Finubar should even get to be a LL, just that the three special characters that were represented with rules in various versions of the army books should get in before either Finubar or Aislinn.
Given the current High Elf Intrigue at Court mechanic is awful as it influences diplomacy which is at best an afterthought in TWW at worst basically pointless. I'm not 100% sure giving them a naval DLC when naval stuff is again at best an afterthought at worst pointless doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Maybe CA will do a full naval overhaul of the game alongside it but I wouldn't hold my breath and I'm sure my wallet would not be very happy with the massive price increase that would entail.
Yeah, I was talking about Naval themed not necessarily Naval mechanics. Heck Memenon's mechanics could be counted as naval, as they simulate being supplied from a far away home base rather well. It doesn't actually have to be connected to the water to have a naval coat of paint.
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2. Funny how you think a character called the Seafarer doesn't connect with a naval theme
3. Lothern is already ruled by Tyrion, reflecting exactly the state of things in the lore, with Finubar just hanging around the courtroom and his chambers. Would be weird to have a race-leader that doesn't start in the race capital.
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4 · 1Disagree 4Agree2. Excuse me? I explicitly said that he combines naval and land themes. They are part of the current Phoenix King's theme.
3. In the lore, Tyrion spends most of his time in Avelorn. It wouldn't be weird because Finubar is a known voyager and Tyrion is known as the Defender of Ulthuan. In the Phoenix King's absence, it's up to him to defend the Ten Kingdoms.
Plus, Finubar's importance is incomparably greater to all the remaining possible characters. That is most certainly not the definition of perfection I subscribe to. Speaking about courts, the Everqueen and her court too should apply to all HE LLs.
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0 · 2Disagree AgreeI think it’s highly possible Slaanesh gets new units that did not exist in WHFB. They’ll get equivalent mortal units to what Khorne/Nurgle received, and Daemons that transcend the setting.
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Scyla Anfingrimm (Rage on)
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0 · 1Disagree AgreeDark elves aren't as a race slannesh worshipers and people grossly overstate the realtionship and its getting annoying. Just giving huge portions of a rsce to another faction with an upgrade is just horrible.
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0 · 2Disagree AgreeA much better way of handling it would be to allow morathi access to some marked slannesh units and allow her to mark certain dark elf units and dechela would like arhkan be allowed some dark elf units 2-3 at most. In addition to the dlc units.
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1 · Disagree 1AgreeUltimately it's about theme though. The Asur's foreign presence always had close ties to the Navy and this is most likely gonna be a kind of expedition away from home thing. Furthermore there are the Sky cutter and Merwyrm reinforcing that naval thing.
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0 · Disagree AgreeAdditionally, her speciality is the "Elixir of Damnation", made from "...an unholy blend of sacrificial blood, warpstone, and vile fluids of her fornication" in one source, "...fluids from corpses, mixed with blood tainted with warpstone" in another. This she forces on her captives, which turns them into delirious slaves which mutate more and more until they're nothing more than "...quivering mass(es) of flesh." (aka, Chaos Spawn.)
Going off of that, she should really be a Chariot/Spawn focussed lord.
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Also, in an End Times novel it (very briefly) mentions that she was in Ind (alongside Arbaal) "...bringing the wrath of the gods down on that far land..." until they were both magically transported to Middenheim to help out Archaon. (Which is dumb storytelling, but does give her a bit of a canonical reason to be somewhere in that area.)
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0 · Disagree AgreeThe Phoenix King Finubar made a gigantic impact on the lore. This is how 8ED Dark Elf AB of all things describes his achievements:
All the alliances he forged, and the relations he improved are very much important to the setting.
In my mind he is nigh confirmed to be playable in the Old World, where he might be present during his travels, and definitely during the Druchii invasion, where he led one of the armies against the main enemy host. It would make sense for GW to use TW:WH for free advertisement.
GW has a lot of work to do in order to hype the Phoenix King after the End Times.
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2 · Disagree 2AgreeGiven the current High Elf Intrigue at Court mechanic is awful as it influences diplomacy which is at best an afterthought in TWW at worst basically pointless. I'm not 100% sure giving them a naval DLC when naval stuff is again at best an afterthought at worst pointless doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Maybe CA will do a full naval overhaul of the game alongside it but I wouldn't hold my breath and I'm sure my wallet would not be very happy with the massive price increase that would entail.
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1 · Disagree 1Agree2. Those characters you mention are better served as heroes
3. A naval themed DLC would naturally come alongside a High Elf rework that updates the Court mechanic.
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