SolvedStuttering UI and FPS Drops since 3.0

Arturle616#7615

Since Patch 3.0 ive noticed a lot more "microstuttering" when navigating on the campaign map and moving to a lord/settlement. The same applies when zooming in and out of the map.

Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it? (Only on Campaign maps, battles are fine)

Ive tried to lower my settings which increases the fps, but the UI stays laggy.

RobertDeNiro#6856

me too

MGH1#5018

Same experience, micro stuttering is a mess now. There was an old UI bug/issue that they had that was fixed, I wonder if it is rearing its head again due to builds..

weezx527#5098

I am also having this problem after updating 3.0 patch. No problem before update. Lag is in campaign map while selecting armies and settlements, or generally moving around camera. Have no mods, verified game files, and updated drivers.

kmansp43#5536

Same... glad to see it wasn't just me. It's really noticable... so irritating.

Nonessential#1920

Yep, a definite drop in what seems to be both AMD and Intel processors.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H
GPU: Radeon RX 5500M
Windows 10

#312732

yeah me too made a similar tread about it. its especially rough when opening settlement UI shown in this video. 1 second freezes every time i click settlements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCkSxTDlyxo

berelion#3263

I have the exact same issue. No matter if I change the graphics settings, the stutter is still there.

Tokugawa_Killer#9343

I have the same issue

playboi1444#5986

Arturle616#7615 said:

Since Patch 3.0 ive noticed a lot more "microstuttering" when navigating on the campaign map and moving to a lord/settlement. The same applies when zooming in and out of the map.

Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it? (Only on Campaign maps, battles are fine)

Ive tried to lower my settings which increases the fps, but the UI stays laggy.

This one looks to be the same overall performance issue mentioned here (https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/330529/massive-stuttering-with-13900-and-4090-with-the-new-patch-3-0#latest) I put screenshots on there showing some examples

Basically it looks like the CPU utilization has changed between 2.6 and 3.0 (probably having something to do with the 'skaven workshop' re-implementation, the game mode powered by Intel where you can change to massive unit scales)

Beforehand I had excellent usage across the power and efficiency cores on my 13900k. However, after this update 8 of the efficiency cores are locked to 100% usage, while the power cores are seeing much less use. This locking of cores to 100% I'd wager is what's causing the stuttering.

I see massive dips in performance on the diplomacy map, jumping between factions as you talk to them. Along with huge dips all across the game map. This is definitely something introduced in 3.0 and it needs to be fixed

claytonz121#7109

Im just glad im not the only one. Less glad about the issue though, hopefully they get this resolved soon... very irritating

Skalea#2352

Same here. This precisely describes my issue.

playboi1444#5986 said:

Arturle616#7615 said:

Since Patch 3.0 ive noticed a lot more "microstuttering" when navigating on the campaign map and moving to a lord/settlement. The same applies when zooming in and out of the map.

Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it? (Only on Campaign maps, battles are fine)

Ive tried to lower my settings which increases the fps, but the UI stays laggy.

This one looks to be the same overall performance issue mentioned here (https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/330529/massive-stuttering-with-13900-and-4090-with-the-new-patch-3-0#latest) I put screenshots on there showing some examples

Basically it looks like the CPU utilization has changed between 2.6 and 3.0 (probably having something to do with the 'skaven workshop' re-implementation, the game mode powered by Intel where you can change to massive unit scales)

Beforehand I had excellent usage across the power and efficiency cores on my 13900k. However, after this update 8 of the efficiency cores are locked to 100% usage, while the power cores are seeing much less use. This locking of cores to 100% I'd wager is what's causing the stuttering.

I see massive dips in performance on the diplomacy map, jumping between factions as you talk to them. Along with huge dips all across the game map. This is definitely something introduced in 3.0 and it needs to be fixed

pathstrider#7343

Ironically, this sounds like an issue CA mentioned in their intel collab pressentation on YouTube.

That was for the battle system, but it mentioned that cores could end up stuck at 100%.

They’d solved that issue, so hopefully it’s a straightforward fix.

ohmybaha#2702

Same issue here.

DrawVids#5775

pathstrider#7343 said:

Ironically, this sounds like an issue CA mentioned in their intel collab pressentation on YouTube.

That was for the battle system, but it mentioned that cores could end up stuck at 100%.

They’d solved that issue, so hopefully it’s a straightforward fix.

Do you have a source for this?

pathstrider#7343

DrawVids#5775 said:

Do you have a source for this?

https://youtu.be/cOJXV5NS3Zg

Around the 27 min mark onwards

Mythraelis#9187

Same here.
I'm having a mediocore setup (it is in the recommended range for the game) but at lest i could play it smoothly on medium-high graphic 1080p before the 3.0 patch.

Now i'm having massive issues even on lower resolutions and on the absolute (!) minimum on graphic settings (by the way, it looks terrible). 1-20 FPS max on the campaign map, massive stuttering.

Battle fps seem to be ok more or less but the graphic is like i wrote on the absolute minimum, so this could be also the reason for the playable battle fps.

Nonounit#6319

Lags, stutter, delayed/not appearing message boxes and crashes. I enjoyed Chaos dwarves though but game is literally unplayable for me in its current state. I didn't see any official word on what's going on though so I just hope it'll be fixed asap.

Campaign map is the worst offender but battles aren't that great either. : /

I tested the CPU script trick but it didn't help much.

Poddatore#8975

Hi guys,
Waiting for CA to fix this very annoying problem. I noticed that checking "hide 3D outlines" in the campaign map improved performance.

Let me know if it works for you!
Hope this could help you.

Duhfart1#8436

Poddatore#8975 said:

I noticed that checking "hide 3D outlines" in the campaign map improved performance.

Where is this option? Are you talking about "Hide 3D UI" that only appears when you zoom the Campaign camera all the way to the top? Hiding the 3D icons when looking at that screen renders that screen useless because you can't even see any of the players on the map.

Was there some other setting you were talking about? The main complaint is that the stutters occur on the Campaign map when you're moving your Lords, heroes, and armies around, not while viewing the large overhead tactical map (although some people also get stutters there).

oUlash#1277

Same here. It is terrible.

Mythraelis#9187

Seriously, no hotfix or at least a comment about the recognition of these probems.

BillyRuffian#6250

Mythraelis#9187 said:

Seriously, no hotfix or at least a comment about the recognition of these probems.

There is a comment here about both stuttering issues. https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/comment/3589651/#Comment_3589651

Arturle616#7615

For anyone still struggling with this issue until CA can resolve it:

Capping your in-game FPS to 60 via Nvdia Control Panel (or similiar software for AMD) helps a little, altough its still noticable.

BillyRuffian#6250

Fix now available https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/331813/total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-3-0-1