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Friendly Reminder to CA - DLC Team: do NOT go full cheap recolors with the Tzaangors etc.

Ludbone#5956Ludbone#5956 Registered Users Posts: 2,217

Pictures took from a Reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/13i52sg/please_ca_do_not_go_fullcheaprecolored_with_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Friendly asking to the DLC Team to not go full cheap recolors with the Tzaangors, Pestigors, Slaangors etc. etc. but also the future generic Lords and Heroes.
Please, do not make the same thing (aka recolors and copy/pasted WoC helmets) you did with the Marauders of Khorne/Tzeentch/Nurgle. . . or like the Spawns and Forsaken.

Make them unique models. New looks. Not something ease pease like how you made the Sorcerer Lords and the Chosen, with only new helmets and weapons on common WoC undivided chosen bodies.

Not asking for new animations tho, but make the DLC worth the price-increase.

Thanks.







#JusticeForTzeentch #NoMoreRecoloredModels #NoMoreCopyPastedUnits




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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,717
    Bog agrees.
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  • nyobien#9819nyobien#9819 Registered Users Posts: 377
    edited May 16
    Tzeentch will get a single new unit and a few cheap recolours/reskins

    Remove agents/heroes from the campaign map like Three Kingdoms did. They are not fun and only serve to make the game more tedious. Nobody finishes campaigns because of how tedious the late game becomes with things like this to manage every turn.

    Grudges:

    6 years old Lord of Change with unimpressive animations. CA hid the exalted one until launch and lied that it was like Kairos's: https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/qak83o/so_turns_out_the_lord_of_change_in_the_trailer/.

    CA put the Champions of Chaos LLs in WoC instead of monogods to save money on unique campaign mechanics

  • Passthechips#4366Passthechips#4366 Registered Users Posts: 4,991
    edited May 16
    I wouldn’t doubt CA pulling a head, armor, and small leg swap to make Tzaangors happen. Which I mean would be pretty close to the actual thing, but wouldn’t be a brand new model.
  • mecanojavi99#6562mecanojavi99#6562 Registered Users Posts: 13,303
    They have official models, so we have no reason to believe they won't use them.


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  • XxXScorpionXxX#2310XxXScorpionXxX#2310 Registered Users Posts: 6,840
    for minos too

    Request scorched body textures, and fire death effects. At least 30% of all damage in this game comes from fire sources. Request Fire for the Fire God DLC.
  • NickCageStoleMyFace#5594NickCageStoleMyFace#5594 Registered Users Posts: 4,163
    Marked Chaos Marauders look so damn goofy for an official model. Like they couldn't get the intern to do it because he was busy with the RoR so they got a random hobo from the street to do it for a slice of pizza.
  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,717

    Tzeentch will get a single new unit and a few cheap recolours/reskins

    Source?
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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,717

    for minos too

    Wrong IP
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  • Neodeinos#5871Neodeinos#5871 Registered Users Posts: 17,261
    Don't go cheap with any other Chaos units actually. The marked Lords of Chaos are still stuck with 7 years old boring animations because CA went cheap with them and I hate it.
  • mecanojavi99#6562mecanojavi99#6562 Registered Users Posts: 13,303

    for minos too

    That's not a mino, that's a conversion of an Ogroid Thaumaturge.

    Which aren't even BM but a completely separate race.
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  • Earlybird#2907Earlybird#2907 Registered Users Posts: 1,318
    You will buy the recolored version and you will be happy
  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,717

    You will buy the recolored version and you will be happy

    Teeheehee.
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  • Lunaticprince#9972Lunaticprince#9972 Registered Users Posts: 7,500

    You will buy the recolored version and you will be happy

    Nah he was very vocal about it

    Also time for quality quantity is over


  • Maedrethnir#1968Maedrethnir#1968 Registered Users Posts: 19,401

    They have official models, so we have no reason to believe they won't use them.


    The Marked Lords also have official miniatures, some more than one in fact, and we know what happened. It's better to be cautious.
  • Fluffernutter#3823Fluffernutter#3823 Registered Users Posts: 46
    I'm not sure the DLC team gets any say in how large their budget is or how long they can spend working on the DLC.
  • Passthechips#4366Passthechips#4366 Registered Users Posts: 4,991

    They have official models, so we have no reason to believe they won't use them.


    The Marked Lords also have official miniatures, some more than one in fact, and we know what happened. It's better to be cautious.
    Here I am, now awaiting cautiously.
  • #568367#568367 Registered Users Posts: 8,136
    TBF I don't HATE the Marked Nurgle and Tzeentch Marauders tbh, yet they could also definitely be better. But fact is they're units that never existed in the TT officially but always has in lore and fan creations and various other adaptations putting them in a strange middle ground


    Khorne's marauders on the other hand...are infuriating. That they took an elite infantry from Norsca and recoloured them into a unit that's a thousand times weaker is just so jarring
  • piet11111#6714piet11111#6714 Registered Users Posts: 129

    I'm not sure the DLC team gets any say in how large their budget is or how long they can spend working on the DLC.

    I was looking for this comment.
  • PoorManatee6197#6481PoorManatee6197#6481 Registered Users Posts: 2,998
    If they actually went with the mutated look they are supposed to have it would be amazing.


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    All those missing things are grudges in the great book, is in your hand to settle them, CA. Khazukan kazakit-ha!

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  • DarthEnderX-#6513DarthEnderX-#6513 Registered Users Posts: 9,341
    Make it happen CA!

    "Assassination's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it."
  • Maedrethnir#1968Maedrethnir#1968 Registered Users Posts: 19,401

    They have official models, so we have no reason to believe they won't use them.


    The Marked Lords also have official miniatures, some more than one in fact, and we know what happened. It's better to be cautious.
    Here I am, now awaiting cautiously.


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  • Cosmic_Lich#1188Cosmic_Lich#1188 Registered Users Posts: 784

    They have official models, so we have no reason to believe they won't use them.


    The Marked Lords also have official miniatures, some more than one in fact, and we know what happened. It's better to be cautious.
    Here I am, now awaiting cautiously.

    They have official models, so we have no reason to believe they won't use them.


    The Marked Lords also have official miniatures, some more than one in fact, and we know what happened. It's better to be cautious.
    Here I am, now awaiting cautiously.


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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,717

    You will buy the recolored version and you will be happy

    Nah he was very vocal about it

    Also time for quality quantity is over
    I agree!
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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,717

    Make it happen CA!

    It's wild how good some of the Bloodbowl models are.

    I would prefer Bow Tzaaangors though. And a slight redesign of the Slaaangor to emphasise Slaaanesh's design cues more.
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  • imnrk#3524imnrk#3524 Registered Users Posts: 346
    Asking CA not to go cheap with something like that is like asking a brick wall not to stand still.

    Not going to happen. When something completely new comes along and they have to make it from scratch they will, but any and all existing assets can and will be used.
  • Pocman#6295Pocman#6295 Registered Users Posts: 6,177
    edited May 17


    Imho, this is the way to follow: very noticeable mutations, like the extra eyes, the crown of horns, the tongue, but at the same time, keeping that bestial beastmen feel while also not flanderisingTzeentch into "bird parts only".


  • Itssomething#2248Itssomething#2248 Registered Users Posts: 442



    Imho, this is the way to follow: very noticeable mutations, like the extra eyes, the crown of horns, the tongue, but at the same time, keeping that bestial beastmen feel while also not flanderisingTzeentch into "bird parts only".


    I agree but fear CA will only paint them blue and give them the bird head of the demon prince of tzeentch. :s
    If we are "lucky" they get new weapon modell but I guess that would again just be reused assets.
  • Lunaticprince#9972Lunaticprince#9972 Registered Users Posts: 7,500



    Imho, this is the way to follow: very noticeable mutations, like the extra eyes, the crown of horns, the tongue, but at the same time, keeping that bestial beastmen feel while also not flanderisingTzeentch into "bird parts only".


    I agree but fear CA will only paint them blue and give them the bird head of the demon prince of tzeentch. :s
    If we are "lucky" they get new weapon modell but I guess that would again just be reused assets.
    I think they gonna remake some effort but not expect extensive from scratch things



  • Farstead___________#2392Farstead___________#2392 Registered Users Posts: 267
    I don;t really get the problem with reusing assets. As long as it's done well, slight changes can be enough to create units that look new. And reusing assets makes it possible to create more content using less resources. And I like more content.

    It should be done better than the marauders though.
  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,717

    I don;t really get the problem with reusing assets. As long as it's done well, slight changes can be enough to create units that look new. And reusing assets makes it possible to create more content using less resources. And I like more content.

    It should be done better than the marauders though.

    There's no problem with it. People just use it as an excuse to criticise CA for the sake of it.
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