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I wonder how/why they landed on Harry as the LH?

Bloodydagger#9716Bloodydagger#9716 Registered Users Posts: 4,965
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Surely they have a plan. But what?
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  • PappyTron#8042PappyTron#8042 Registered Users Posts: 1,230
    He's basically the first breakout character in Warhammer, and the game is celebrating its 40th Anniversary, that's why.
    "Back in the sweatshop in Ulthuan, we found an Elf, we tossed it right in the soup. Those hungry bastards ate Elf soup every day. What's the worst thing that could happen? Some little snotling chokes on a hairball and dies? So then you toss him in the soup. I was making money hand over foot, literally. Some gobbo lost a hand or a foot, I'd toss it in the soup" - Grom
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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 42,795
    They decided IT'S HAMMER TIME!
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  • #568367#568367 Registered Users Posts: 7,577
    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    With this being the 40th anniversary, my guess is they wanted an older character. Considering Hammerstorm was one of the first characters of the setting, and was the original warhammer wielding character the setting was named after, probably seemed a good fit.

    A character of such history and reverence........let's **** on him and disrespect him by demoting him into a LH so he can be your level one chaos lord's **** running around the campaign map to do agent actions!
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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 42,795
    #568367 said:

    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    With this being the 40th anniversary, my guess is they wanted an older character. Considering Hammerstorm was one of the first characters of the setting, and was the original warhammer wielding character the setting was named after, probably seemed a good fit.

    A character of such history and reverence........let's **** on him and disrespect him by demoting him into a LH so he can be your level one chaos lord's **** running around the campaign map to do agent actions!
    Sounds awesome!
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  • Asamu#6386Asamu#6386 Registered Users Posts: 1,666
    #568367 said:

    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    With this being the 40th anniversary, my guess is they wanted an older character. Considering Hammerstorm was one of the first characters of the setting, and was the original warhammer wielding character the setting was named after, probably seemed a good fit.

    A character of such history and reverence........let's **** on him and disrespect him by demoting him into a LH so he can be your level one chaos lord's **** running around the campaign map to do agent actions!
    He was an exalted hero and legendary champion, not a chaos lord. He didn't lead armies or unite chaos tribes; he was a wandering champion with a particular vendetta against the undead, and a hammer with the power to send their spirits to the realm of Morr. He often had followers, but not because he sought them out or fought his way to the top of a tribe/army.

    He actually fits better as a hero than he would have as a lord.
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  • MODIDDLY1#9212MODIDDLY1#9212 Registered Users Posts: 2,041
    Asamu#6386 said:

    #568367 said:

    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    With this being the 40th anniversary, my guess is they wanted an older character. Considering Hammerstorm was one of the first characters of the setting, and was the original warhammer wielding character the setting was named after, probably seemed a good fit.

    A character of such history and reverence........let's **** on him and disrespect him by demoting him into a LH so he can be your level one chaos lord's **** running around the campaign map to do agent actions!
    He was an exalted hero and legendary champion, not a chaos lord. He didn't lead armies or unite chaos tribes; he was a wandering champion with a particular vendetta against the undead, and a hammer with the power to send their spirits to the realm of Morr. He often had followers, but not because he sought them out or fought his way to the top of a tribe/army.

    He actually fits better as a hero than he would have as a lord.
    Problem is, Snikitch and Ghorst both also "would be better as a hero" and yet both campaigns are a lot of fun.
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  • Nyxilis#3646Nyxilis#3646 Registered Users Posts: 8,016
    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    Asamu#6386 said:

    #568367 said:

    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    With this being the 40th anniversary, my guess is they wanted an older character. Considering Hammerstorm was one of the first characters of the setting, and was the original warhammer wielding character the setting was named after, probably seemed a good fit.

    A character of such history and reverence........let's **** on him and disrespect him by demoting him into a LH so he can be your level one chaos lord's **** running around the campaign map to do agent actions!
    He was an exalted hero and legendary champion, not a chaos lord. He didn't lead armies or unite chaos tribes; he was a wandering champion with a particular vendetta against the undead, and a hammer with the power to send their spirits to the realm of Morr. He often had followers, but not because he sought them out or fought his way to the top of a tribe/army.

    He actually fits better as a hero than he would have as a lord.
    Problem is, Snikitch and Ghorst both also "would be better as a hero" and yet both campaigns are a lot of fun.
    Doesn't mean that's going to work with every character and at this point it's worth also pointing out that CA has demoted a character from lord to hero.
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  • kufaree#1220kufaree#1220 Registered Users Posts: 887
    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo
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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 42,795
    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Disagree.
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  • DarthEnderX-#6513DarthEnderX-#6513 Registered Users Posts: 7,466
    I'm guessing they just wanted a WoC LH, so their choices were pretty much Mordrek or Harry.
    "Assassination's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it."
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  • imnrk#3524imnrk#3524 Registered Users Posts: 305
    Would have preferred a LH for any other race, WoC is already packed full of content and doesn't need it as much as any other race in the game.

    He has cool abilities though.
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  • Nyxilis#3646Nyxilis#3646 Registered Users Posts: 8,016
    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    I for one entirely still expect doggo. People's scope is so limited currently!
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  • DrJammat#8325DrJammat#8325 Registered Users Posts: 644
    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Karanak will come, I'm sure of it, and before the announcement I was looking forward to the big dog, but I have to admit I like the tribute to oldhammer and look forward to using him.
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  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 40,878
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    DrJammat#8325 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Karanak will come, I'm sure of it, and before the announcement I was looking forward to the big dog, but I have to admit I like the tribute to oldhammer and look forward to using him.
    Tbf Karanak makes sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Post edited by Captain_Rex#1635 on
    Summon the Elector Counts!
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  • kufaree#1220kufaree#1220 Registered Users Posts: 887
    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    DrJammat#8325 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Karanak will come, I'm sure of it, and before the announcement I was looking forward to the big dog, but I have to admit I like the tribute to oldhammer and look forward to using him.
    Tbf Karanak make sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Yeah, that would be cool.
    Abraal is a badass character too
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  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 40,878
    kufaree#1220 said:

    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    DrJammat#8325 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Karanak will come, I'm sure of it, and before the announcement I was looking forward to the big dog, but I have to admit I like the tribute to oldhammer and look forward to using him.
    Tbf Karanak make sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Yeah, that would be cool.
    Abraal is a badass character too
    Yeah Arbaal is the obvious choice for one of Khornes 2 DLCs.

    DLC 1:
    - Arbaal
    - Karanak LH
    - New Khorne Lord/Hero
    - Slaughterbrute (also available for WoC)
    - Khorngors (also available for BM)
    - Blood Chariots

    DLC 2:
    - Skarr Bloodwrath
    - Scyla Anfingrimm LH
    - New Khorne Lord/Hero
    - Wrathmongers
    - Skullreapers
    - Blood Beast (exalted Chaos Spawn SEM)
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  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 42,795
    kufaree#1220 said:

    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    DrJammat#8325 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Karanak will come, I'm sure of it, and before the announcement I was looking forward to the big dog, but I have to admit I like the tribute to oldhammer and look forward to using him.
    Tbf Karanak make sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Yeah, that would be cool.
    Abraal is a badass character too
    If we're honest he's a craven who never was only undefeated because when his army was losing he ran like a scolded dog.

    Skarr, now that's a badass.
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  • General_Hijalti#1213General_Hijalti#1213 Registered Users Posts: 5,970
    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    Asamu#6386 said:

    #568367 said:

    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    With this being the 40th anniversary, my guess is they wanted an older character. Considering Hammerstorm was one of the first characters of the setting, and was the original warhammer wielding character the setting was named after, probably seemed a good fit.

    A character of such history and reverence........let's **** on him and disrespect him by demoting him into a LH so he can be your level one chaos lord's **** running around the campaign map to do agent actions!
    He was an exalted hero and legendary champion, not a chaos lord. He didn't lead armies or unite chaos tribes; he was a wandering champion with a particular vendetta against the undead, and a hammer with the power to send their spirits to the realm of Morr. He often had followers, but not because he sought them out or fought his way to the top of a tribe/army.

    He actually fits better as a hero than he would have as a lord.
    Problem is, Snikitch and Ghorst both also "would be better as a hero" and yet both campaigns are a lot of fun.
    Ghorst lead the armies in the sigmsrs blood supplement, and that dlc was just that supplement.


    Snikitch is the only representation of eshin, and they wanted to represent all the clans
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  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 40,878
    Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    DrJammat#8325 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Karanak will come, I'm sure of it, and before the announcement I was looking forward to the big dog, but I have to admit I like the tribute to oldhammer and look forward to using him.
    Tbf Karanak make sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Yeah, that would be cool.
    Abraal is a badass character too
    If we're honest he's a craven who never was only undefeated because when his army was losing he ran like a scolded dog.

    Skarr, now that's a badass.
    Both will come.
    Summon the Elector Counts!
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  • PhoenixKingMalekith#5710PhoenixKingMalekith#5710 Registered Users Posts: 2,533
    Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    DrJammat#8325 said:

    kufaree#1220 said:

    I know this comment will get many disagrees but i like him much more than the three headed doggo

    Karanak will come, I'm sure of it, and before the announcement I was looking forward to the big dog, but I have to admit I like the tribute to oldhammer and look forward to using him.
    Tbf Karanak make sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Yeah, that would be cool.
    Abraal is a badass character too
    If we're honest he's a craven who never was only undefeated because when his army was losing he ran like a scolded dog.

    Skarr, now that's a badass.
    The guy who needs to be saved constantly ? He makes no sense at all, and breaks all the previous lore about Khorne. What happens with “no matter from where the blood flows”? Where is the famous honour of Khorne? As a Khorne fan since I was 10, I can’t understand this character. He should be a Tzeentch lord.
    "You stumble about in darkness. There is no light here, no mercy. Naggarond has claimed the souls of better heroes than you."
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  • DarthEnderX-#6513DarthEnderX-#6513 Registered Users Posts: 7,466
    PhoenixKingMalekith#5710 said:

    What happens with “no matter from where the blood flows”?

    That includes Skarr's. He brings him back so he can bleed even more.

    Really though, it probably has to do with, like, overall blood rate. If Skarr has a KDR of, like, 1000:1, then it's just a good idea to keep bringing him back.
    "Assassination's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it."
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  • doclumbago#6250doclumbago#6250 Registered Users Posts: 2,608
    -My favourite would have been the three-headed good boi, but I guess he will come with the Khorne DLC.

    -Bragg The Gutsman would have made sense but would not have been enough incentive to play Ogres right now.

    So Harry really is a good choice. I wonder how much MP meta thought ws going into his Skills.
    In campaign, it's hard to rout enemies due to AI buffs.
    But in Domination it must be hilarious to rout massive stacks of Zombies off the Objectives instead
    of grinding them down
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  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 40,878
    DarthEnderX-#6513 said:

    PhoenixKingMalekith#5710 said:

    What happens with “no matter from where the blood flows”?

    That includes Skarr's. He brings him back so he can bleed even more.

    Really though, it probably has to do with, like, overall blood rate. If Skarr has a KDR of, like, 1000:1, then it's just a good idea to keep bringing him back.
    Pretty much this. It’s no effort for Khorne to bring back Skarr. And considering that his blood ratio is incredibly high, it’s probably a good deal for Khorne. Khornes a Businessman after all and as long as the numbers are fine he’s happy. Skarr simply is a good investment.

    Skarr is the opposite of Arbaal kinda… Arbaal is all about finding worthy opponents to fight in single combat. When he loses then it’s because he failed.

    Skarr is all about killing masses of enemies. He’s basically a living Lawn mower.
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  • DarthEnderX-#6513DarthEnderX-#6513 Registered Users Posts: 7,466
    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    Tbf Karanak makes sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Same reason I can see Vandred being the LH in Dechala's pack. Snake-bod solidarity.
    "Assassination's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it."
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  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 40,878
    DarthEnderX-#6513 said:

    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    Tbf Karanak makes sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Same reason I can see Vandred being the LH in Dechala's pack. Snake-bod solidarity.
    Yap pretty much.

    But Vandred entirely depends on the DLC for me. If it’s indeed Slaanesh, HE, DE as most people expect, then the 2 LHs should be for DE and HE.
    Summon the Elector Counts!
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  • Ben1990#8909Ben1990#8909 Registered Users Posts: 3,310
    MODIDDLY1#9212 said:

    With this being the 40th anniversary, my guess is they wanted an older character. Considering Hammerstorm was one of the first characters of the setting, and was the original warhammer wielding character the setting was named after, probably seemed a good fit.

    They could've added Slambo instead...
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  • DarthEnderX-#6513DarthEnderX-#6513 Registered Users Posts: 7,466
    edited May 26
    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    But Vandred entirely depends on the DLC for me. If it’s indeed Slaanesh, HE, DE as most people expect, then the 2 LHs should be for DE and HE.

    I don't see it. The monogods are the headliners of these upcoming packs. And I imagine CA will want to keep parity between the 4 monogods. Since we know Tzeentch is getting a LH in it's pack, I'm expecting all 4 of them will.
    Ben1990#8909 said:

    They could've added Slambo instead...

    Slambo is much worse than Harald.
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  • Lord_Zarkov#7252Lord_Zarkov#7252 Registered Users Posts: 2,298
    Harry’s most recent model was released for the 30th anniversary of WFB. Makes sense to release a digital Harry for the 40th.
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  • Passthechips#4366Passthechips#4366 Registered Users Posts: 3,326
    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    DarthEnderX-#6513 said:

    Captain_Rex#1635 said:

    Tbf Karanak makes sense to come alongside the Arbaal DLC. They aren’t connected Lorewise but Arbaal rides a Flesh Hound, so it fits thematically.

    Same reason I can see Vandred being the LH in Dechala's pack. Snake-bod solidarity.
    Yap pretty much.

    But Vandred entirely depends on the DLC for me. If it’s indeed Slaanesh, HE, DE as most people expect, then the 2 LHs should be for DE and HE.
    I think it’s a safe assumption that in the short-term all of the FLC LHs will be available to races that people who only own WH3 have access to.

    All WH3 players have access to Harry through Be’lakor, Ulrika through Kislev, and soon a Tzeentch LH.

    It would also be annoying pattern break for only some of the Monogods to get an LH and not others.
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