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Provinces & Factions (Starting Positions)

DribbsDribbs Senior MemberPosts: 1,271Registered Users
edited May 2011 in Total War: Shogun 2
EDIT:
I've now put together a .html table as it's easier to capture the information in this way. The columns are sortable and you can click on the main playable clan names for a profile and traits.

Here ... [link]



Sample of clan/province page ...
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Sample of clan profile/traits page ...
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ORIGINAL POST

I've compiled two lists. The first shows Provices/Factions. The second list (see next post) shows Factions/Provinces.

I've completed the ten playable factions but would appreciate your assistance with the others. If you post up the unique P (for province) number with the corresponding F (for faction), I'll update the two lists.

Use the encyclopedia pic (below) for reference. Larger version, here ... [link]

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List 1: Provinces/Factions

(P01) Aki ... (F32) Mori
(P02) Awa
(P03) Awaji
(P04) Bingo
(P05) Bit.chu
(P06) Bizen
(P07) Bungo
(P08) Buzen
(P09) Echigo ... (F53) Uesugi
(P10) Echizen
(P11) Etchu
(P12) Fukushima
(P13) Harima
(P14) Hida
(P15) Higo
(P16) Hitachi
(P17) Hizen
(P18) Hoki
(P19) Hyuga
(P20) Iga ... (F17) Iga Ninja (aka Hattori)
(P21) Inaba
(P22) Ise
(P23) Iwami
(P24) Iwate ... (F11) Date
(P25) Iyo
(P26) Izu ... (F14) Hojo
(P27) Izumo
(P28) Kaga
(P29) Kai ... (F49) Takeda
(P30) Kawachi
(P31) Kazusa
(P32) Kii
(P33) Kozuke
(P34) Mikawa ... (F50) Tokugawa
(P35) Mimasaka
(P36) Mino
(P37) Miyagi
(P38) Musashi
(P39) Nagato
(P40) North Shinano
(P41) Noto
(P42) Omi
(P43) Osumi
(P44) Owari ... (F34) Oda
(P45) Sado
(P46) Sagami ... (F14) Hojo
(P47) Sanuki
(P48) Satsuma ... (F45) Shimazu
(P49) Settsu
(P50) Shimosa
(P51) Shimotsuke
(P52) South Shinano
(P53) Suo
(P54) Suruga
(P55) Tajima
(P56) Tamba
(P57) Tango
(P58) Tosa ... (F09) Chosokabe
(P59) Totomi
(P60) Tsukushi
(P61) Ugo
(P62) Uzen
(P63) Wakasa
(P64) Yamashiro
(P65) Yamato
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  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    List 2: Factions/Provinces

    (F01) Amako
    (F02) Anegakoji
    (F03) Asai
    (F04) Asano
    (F05) Ashikaga
    (F06) Ashina
    (F07) Bessho
    (F08) Buddhist Rebels
    (F09) Chosokabe ... (P58) Tosa
    (F10) Christian Rebels
    (F11) Date ... (P24) Iwate
    (F12) Hatakeyama
    (F13) Hatano
    (F14) Hojo ... (P26) Izu & (P46) Sagami
    (F15) Honma
    (F16) Hosokawa
    (F17) Iga Ninja (aka Hattori) ... (P20) Iga
    (F18) Ikko Ikki
    (F19) Imagawa
    (F20) Ishida
    (F21) Ito
    (F22) Jinbo
    (F23) Kikkawa
    (F24) Kiso
    (F25) Kitabatake
    (F26) Kobayakawa
    (F27) Kono
    (F28) Kuroda
    (F29) Matsuda
    (F30) Miyoshi
    (F31) Mogami
    (F32) Mori ... (P01) Aki
    (F33) Murakami
    (F34) Oda (P44) ... Owari
    (F35) Ogi.g.a.y.atsu-Uesugi
    (F36) Otomo
    (F37) Ouchi
    (F38) Portugal N/A
    (F39) Rebels
    (F40) Sagara
    (F41) Saito
    (F42) Sakai
    (F43) Satake
    (F44) Satomi
    (F45) Shimazu ... (P48) Satsuma
    (F46) Shoni
    (F47) Sogo
    (F48) Takaoka
    (F49) Takeda ... (P29) Kai
    (F50) Tokugawa ... (P34) Mikawa
    (F51) Toyotomi
    (F52) Tsutsui
    (F53) Uesugi ... (P09) Echigo
    (F54) Ukita
    (F55) Urakami
    (F56) Utsunomiya
    (F57) Wako
    (F58) Yamana
    (F59) Yamanouchi-Uesugi

    For .png files of all the clan mons, check out this thread ... [link]
  • CarnagejcCarnagejc Senior Member Posts: 569Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Thanks for this, nice map to plan my naval invasions. (Mori clan for Shogun 2011)
    Look, east the river flows
    Waves rolling over a thousand heroes
    Smile, at this mountainous land
    Victory and defeat lost in dust and sand
  • XooXoo Senior Member Posts: 2,997Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    I found a link - http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Category:Clans

    It can also meaning to look MINOR clans to set on the Shogun 2 map.... Also we found of Mons-thread here...
    Carthage > Burn Rome :p
    Macedon > Burn Rome :D
  • PhilippinePridePhilippinePride Junior Member Posts: 11Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    i only knew Tsutsui,Hatakeyama,Matsuda,Kamakura,Miyoshi,Chosokabe,Kono,Kikkawa,Bessho,Sogo thanks to these.
  • XooXoo Senior Member Posts: 2,997Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    I update here.. (MC) = Minor clan.

    ?? = Unsure info...

    List 1: Provinces/Factions

    (P01) Aki ... (F32) MORI CLAN
    (P02) Awa - (MC) Miyoshi clan
    (P03) Awaji - (MC) Miyoshi clan
    (P04) Bingo - (MC) Kikkawa clan
    (P05) Bit.chu - (MC) Matsuda clan
    (P06) Bizen - (MC) Urakami clan
    (P07) Bungo - (MC) Otomo clan
    (P08) Buzen - (MC) ??
    (P09) Echigo ... (F53) UESUGI CLAN
    (P10) Echizen - (MC) Saito clan
    (P11) Etchu - (MC) Jinbo clan
    (P12) Fukushima - (MC) Ashina clan
    (P13) Harima - (MC) Bessho clan / Kuroda clan?
    (P14) Hida - (MC) Anegakoji clan
    (P15) Higo - (MC) Sagara clan
    (P16) Hitachi - (MC) Satake clan
    (P17) Hizen - (MC) Shoni clan
    (P18) Hoki - (MC) Amako clan
    (P19) Hyuga - (MC) Ito clan
    (P20) Iga ... (F17) HATTORI CLAN
    (P21) Inaba - (MC) Yamana clan
    (P22) Ise - (MC) Kitabatake clan
    (P23) Iwami - (MC) Amako clan
    (P24) Iwate ... (F11) DATE CLAN
    (P25) Iyo - (MC) Kono clan
    (P26) Izu ... (F14) HOJO CLAN
    (P27) Izumo - (MC) Amako clan
    (P28) Kaga - (MC) Ikko Ikki (Non-clan, Jōdo Shinshū..)
    (P29) Kai ... (F49) TAKEDA CLAN
    (P30) Kawachi - (MC) Hosokawa clan
    (P31) Kazusa - (MC) Satomi clan
    (P32) Kii - (MC) ??
    (P33) Kozuke - (MC) ??
    (P34) Mikawa ... (F50) TOKUGAWA CLAN
    (P35) Mimasaka - (MC) Ukita Clan
    (P36) Mino - (MC) Saito clan
    (P37) Miyagi - (MC) Ashina clan
    (P38) Musashi - (MC) ??
    (P39) Nagato - (MC) Ouchi clan
    (P40) North Shinano - (MC) Murakami Clan
    (P41) Noto - (MC) ??
    (P42) Omi - (MC) Asai clan
    (P43) Osumi - (MC) Ito clan
    (P44) Owari ... (F34) ODA CLAN
    (P45) Sado - (MC) Honma clan
    (P46) Sagami ... (F14) HOJO CLAN
    (P47) Sanuki - (MC) Sono clan
    (P48) Satsuma ... (F45) SHIMAZU CLAN
    (P49) Settsu - (MC) Takaoka clan
    (P50) Shimosa - (MC) ??
    (P51) Shimotsuke - (MC) Utsunomiya clan
    (P52) South Shinano - (MC) Kiso clan
    (P53) Suo - (MC) Ouchi clan
    (P54) Suruga - (MC) Imagawa clan
    (P55) Tajima - (MC) ??
    (P56) Tamba - (MC) Hatano clan
    (P57) Tango - (MC) ??
    (P58) Tosa ... (F09) CHOSOKABE CLAN
    (P59) Totomi - (MC) Imagawa clan
    (P60) Tsukushi - (MC) ??
    (P61) Ugo - (MC) Mogami clan
    (P62) Uzen - (MC) Hatakeyama clan
    (P63) Wakasa - (MC) ??
    (P64) Yamashiro (Kyoto) - (MC) Ashikaga clan (Current Shogun, beginning of 1545)
    (P65) Yamato - (MC) Tsutsui clan

    I will edit here later, need pause a little ;)

    EDIT: v1,1 -> Added a lot...
    Carthage > Burn Rome :p
    Macedon > Burn Rome :D
  • XooXoo Senior Member Posts: 2,997Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    I need help to know:

    (P13) Harima - (MC) Bessho clan / Kuroda clan?
    (P32) Kii - (MC) ??
    (P33) Kozuke - (MC) ??
    (P38) Musashi - (MC) ??
    (P41) Noto - (MC) ??
    (P50) Shimosa - (MC) ??
    (P55) Tajima - (MC) ??
    (P57) Tango - (MC) ??
    (P60) Tsukushi - (MC) ??
    (P63) Wakasa - (MC) ??

    And minor clans to set unknown provinces:
    Kobayakawa clan (maybe near to Asai clan)
    Yamanouchi-Uesugi (??)

    Later of time of Grand Campagin:
    ISHIDO CLAN
    TOYOTOMI CLAN
    Carthage > Burn Rome :p
    Macedon > Burn Rome :D
  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Thanks for the updates. Can you specify the F (for faction) prefix though, rather than MC. Thanks again :)
  • XooXoo Senior Member Posts: 2,997Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Dribbs wrote: »
    Thanks for the updates. Can you specify the F (for faction) prefix though, rather than MC. Thanks again :)

    For much work, heh. But you can also update if u like. I must work in RL ^^
    Carthage > Burn Rome :p
    Macedon > Burn Rome :D
  • Hanzo HattoriHanzo Hattori Member Posts: 46Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    This is what I came up with after researching for the time period in 1545.

    (P13) Harima - Kuroda clan
    (P32) Kii - Probably Horiuchi clan
    (P33) Kozuke - Uesugi clan as of 1545 and Hojo clan who controlled by 1551
    (P38) Musashi - Ōgiga-yatsu clan, branch of Uesugi clan, fell to Hojo clan sometime in 1545
    (P41) Noto - A branch of the Maeda clan
    (P50) Shimosa - Takeda clan as of 1542
    (P55) Tajima - Yamana clan
    (P57) Tango - Sasaki clan which tranferred by family ties into the Kyogoku clan possibly by 1545?
    (P60) Tsukushi -Tsukushi, retainer of Shoni clan, possibly taken by Ouchi clan by 1545?
    (P63) Wakasa - minor Daimyo, mostly Takeda clan, possibly taken over by Oda clan by 1545?

    research was done though Samurai archives, wiki and a few odd searches between.
  • XooXoo Senior Member Posts: 2,997Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Forget (P08) Buzen - (MC) ??...

    And i know Takeda Clan have ONE province in the Shogun 2 campagin...
    Carthage > Burn Rome :p
    Macedon > Burn Rome :D
  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    @ Xoo and Hattori Hanzo - thanks for the input.

    However, some of the clans you are referring to may be correct historically but they do not feature in the game. It's only the 59 clans shown in my second post which can be in any of the starting positions.
  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    I've now put together a .html table as it's easier to capture the information in this way ...
    [link]


    Thanks to Xoo and Hanzo Hattori for their input. There are still some provinces and clans to match up.

    Here is a sample ...
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  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    I've now updated the table so it can be sorted. Just click on the column headers :)
    [link]
  • ranknfileranknfile Senior Member Posts: 6,832Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Absolutely super nice! Thanks for taking the time to put this together and sharing it.
    "Whoever desires is always poor" - Claudian
  • Hanzo HattoriHanzo Hattori Member Posts: 46Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Buzen looks like Otomo but i guess well know soon enough
  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Another update ... you can now link from the playable factions in the main table to a profile/traits summary ... [link]

    Or just link direct to the profiles/traits ... [link]

    Anyway, my copy of the LE has just landed so I'm off to install :)

    profile_sample.png
  • Oda NobunagaOda Nobunaga Senior Member Posts: 140Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Useful, thanks
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  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    I'll update the table with the remaining clan starting positions, now that I have the game.
  • BBinkyBBinky Member Posts: 35Registered Users
    edited March 2011
  • emilsinclairemilsinclair Junior Member Posts: 9Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Why is there no iron on Kazusa, like the encyclopedia says there is?
  • doinwork34doinwork34 Technical Moderator Colorado, USPosts: 2,796Registered Users, Moderators, Tech Moderators
    edited March 2011
    Why is there no iron on Kazusa, like the encyclopedia says there is?

    This is making so mad becasue my strategy as the Hojo revolves around the iron there. But since there is not the Hojo statrting position is not as good anymore. Does anyone know where the iron was moved too?
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  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
  • Hanzo HattoriHanzo Hattori Member Posts: 46Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Wakasa are the ikko ikki
  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Wakasa are the ikko ikki
    Ok, thanks. Buzen and Tsukushi are the Shoni but I need to check for sure. I will update the table.
  • JohhogJohhog Junior Member Posts: 2Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Wakasa are the ikko ikki

    No, they aren't. I've been checking literally every province on the map (huge work) to see which clans the provinces belong to. This is the list:

    Aki
    Mori (Playable)
    Awa
    Miyoshi
    Awaji
    Miyoshi
    Bingo
    Kikkawa
    Bit-chu
    Matsuda
    Bizen
    Urakami
    Bungo
    Otomo
    Buzen
    Otomo
    Echigo
    Uesugi (Playable)
    Echizen
    Ikko-Ikki
    Etchu
    Jinbo
    Fukushima
    Ashina
    Harima
    Bessho
    Hida
    Anegakoji
    Higo
    Sagara
    Hitachi
    Satake
    Hizen
    Shoni
    Hoki
    Amako
    Hyuga
    Ito
    Iga
    Hattori (Playable in Limited Edition)
    Inaba
    Yamana
    Ise
    Kitabatake
    Iwami
    Amako
    Iwate
    Date (Playable)
    Iyo
    Kono
    Izu
    Hojo (Playable)
    Izumo
    Amako
    Kaga
    Ikko-Ikki
    Kai
    Takeda (Playable)
    Kawachi
    Hatakeyama
    Kazusa
    Satomi
    Kii
    Hatakeyama
    Kozuke
    Yamanouchi
    Kyoto
    Ashikaga (Shogun)
    Mikawa
    Tokugawa (Playable)
    Mimasaka
    Urakami
    Mino
    Saito
    Miyagi
    Hatakeyama
    Musashi
    Ogiga-yatsu
    Nagato
    Ouchi
    North Shinano
    Murakami
    Noto
    Hatakeyama
    Omi
    Asai
    Osumi
    Ito
    Owari
    Oda (Playable)
    Sado
    Honma
    Sagami
    Hojo (Playable)
    Sanuki
    Sogo
    Satsuma
    Shimazu (Playable)
    Settsu
    Miyoshi
    Shimosa
    Satomi
    Shimotsuke
    Satake
    South Shinano
    Kiso
    Suo
    Ouchi
    Suruga
    Imagawa
    Tajima
    Yamana
    Tamba
    Hatano
    Tango
    Takaoka
    Tosa
    Chosokabe (Playable)
    Totomi
    Imagawa
    Tsukushi
    Shoni
    Ugo
    Mogami
    Uzen
    Mogami
    Wakasa
    Sakai
    Yamato
    Tsutsui

    This means that the Hosokawa (!), the Ishida, the Kobayakawa, the Kuroda, the Toyotomi, the Ukita and the Utsunomiya clans have no provinces at the start of the game.
  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Table updated ... [link]

    Thanks for the input so far from Xoo, Hanzo Hattori and Johhog.
    Let me know if there are any errors or omissions.
  • XooXoo Senior Member Posts: 2,997Registered Users
    edited March 2011
    Nice thread and i have done a good play for SW2... :)
    Carthage > Burn Rome :p
    Macedon > Burn Rome :D
  • DribbsDribbs Senior Member Posts: 1,271Registered Users
    edited April 2011
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