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  • FightingFirstFightingFirst Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 45
    I really hope for the second game they change the magic system. They need to introduce dispel mechanics and tiers of casters like in tt. This would then mean Kemmler would generate a greater magic pool then say an ordinary caster. The tt method was already pretty solid, they should have just changed it so it could be used in real time. High elves will definately suffer as well if this is not fixes since they specialise at shutting the opponents magic phase down entirely.
  • Eldrick#6807Eldrick#6807 Registered Users Posts: 786
    I'm a lore noob, never played WH, so Supreme Patriarch is just a title to me, sorry.

    I get it if some people really love Gelt in WH, and the TWW translation doesn't cut the mustard.

    Same with the other LL.

    It just doesn't mean anything to me. I'm taking them all on their face value.
  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member GermanyRegistered Users Posts: 14,701
    Eldrick said:

    I'm a lore noob, never played WH, so Supreme Patriarch is just a title to me, sorry.

    http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Supreme_Patriarch

    "The contest to determine the dominant College of Magic takes the form of a violent contest of spellcraft between the existing Supreme Patriarch and the challengers, one at a time"
    you cant be a weakling to become Surpreme Patriarch

    and Gelt defeated this guy



    http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Thyrus_Gormann
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • Combat_WombatCombat_Wombat Registered Users Posts: 4,092
    Lore of Fire just got CFC nerfed. No wonder Gelt won.
  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member GermanyRegistered Users Posts: 14,701

    Lore of Fire just got CFC nerfed. No wonder Gelt won.

    with how the game currently is Gorman would've beaten up Gelt bare handed
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • Eldrick#6807Eldrick#6807 Registered Users Posts: 786
    That is just the sort of thing i would do if I was a mage - accidentally set my own hair on fire :)
  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member GermanyRegistered Users Posts: 14,701
    edited December 2016
    Eldrick said:

    That is just the sort of thing i would do if I was a mage - accidentally set my own hair on fire :)

    it's not accidently... these bright wizards are all quite fiery personalities... you should hear Sienna Fuegonasus in Vermintide... many of them are also a bit pyromanic
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • TayvarTayvar Registered Users Posts: 12,455
    edited December 2016
    Eldrick said:

    Tayvar said:

    Tayvar said:

    Kemmler was never overshadowed by Gelt, he is overshadowed by other Necromancers.

    and most of the old LLs are getting a bit overshadowed by the newer LLs tbf
    Well yes, that's why balancing should be done not only in custom battles, but also in campaigns.
    I am ok with variable strength legendary lord choices - I would rather each faction had some strong and some weak LL so that I could choose a weaker LL for a harder play through.

    Asymmetry is one of the best things about TWW. Gelt is fine as he is, even tho' he is weak by comparison to all other LL.
    I am okey with different power level for Legendary Lord as well, but only as long as it's makes sense in the lore, Kemmler and Gelt supposed to be among the strongest mortal mages there is, while Ghorst is an nobody in comparison, he is not having even an Non-Total War Wiki Page. Okey I was not correct, Helman Ghorst now got an Wiki Page, but only thanks to Total War. :)

    http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Heinrich_Kemmler

    http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Helman_Ghorst
  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member GermanyRegistered Users Posts: 14,701
    dang... just wanted to correct you :P

    in the game you can consider Ghorst to have been a bit upgraded anyway from a Lore PoV (he iirc has the Liber Noctum, doesnt he?) But i wouldnt mind Ghorst being more or less the "Skarsnik" of the VC... Kemmler having the special Lich connection while Ghorst maybe should buff Zombies and maybe normal skeletons far more
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • TayvarTayvar Registered Users Posts: 12,455
    Well Helman Ghorst getting an Non-Total War Wiki Page it's really something new. :D
  • SephirexSephirex Right outside your windowRegistered Users Posts: 1,028
    Gelt would hide his face in shame, but....you know....he already has.
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