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Lets talk about Total War Engine

jamreal18jamreal18 Senior MemberPosts: 8,217Registered Users
edited September 2018 in Total War General Chat
Why does CA got stuck with current engine?

Before, they made only 2 games with previous engine. Now they are using the current engine for every new titles.

Why did they dump TW2 engine immediately? Why cant they make new one again?

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  • TheGreatPamphletTheGreatPamphlet Posts: 133Registered Users
    Because it costs a lot of money, jamreal. A company wants to have as low expenses as possible. If you disagree with this policy and want to press CA to create a new engine, I can only see three ways.
    1. Launch an online awareness campaign, with the goal of organising a powerful movement that will persuade CA to adopt your suggestions.
    2. Stop pre-ordering new games and DLCs. Embargoes are the greatest tools in a consumer's pocket.
    3. Do both.

    Most cordially,
    The Great Pamphlet
    Nestor.

    Allah, Suriya, Bashar w Bas!
  • jamreal18jamreal18 Senior Member Posts: 8,217Registered Users
    But shouldn't they invest on a more decent engine?

    If they do, they only need to patch it lightly and customers will be happy.
  • TheGreatPamphletTheGreatPamphlet Posts: 133Registered Users
    Why should they? If the customers pre-order their games anyway, despite complaining for the engine, then there is no reason to waste their money. If you want to persuade a company to follow your wishes, then you need to show some strength of character, by resisting the temptation of buying everything they sell.
    It's consumer politics 101.
    Nestor.

    Allah, Suriya, Bashar w Bas!
  • daelin4daelin4 Senior Member Posts: 16,176Registered Users
    jamreal18 said:

    Why does CA got stuck with current engine?

    Before, they made only 2 games with previous engine. Now they are using the current engine for every new titles.

    Why did they dump TW2 engine immediately? Why cant they make new one again?

    There are only two reasons to dump an engine:

    It sucks very bad and doesn't do what you need

    You want to do things, and the current engine sucks and doesn't do it.

    So far, there's no reason for CA to see Warscape as anything but.

    For perspective, Skyrim's engine is a derivative of Gamebryo, the engine used for Olivion in 2005. Improvements on the engine would lead to that used in Fallout 4. Like Bethesda games, the engine for Total War used since Empire has seen many extensive modifications.

    The reason CA is "stuck" with the current engine is that as far as they are concerned it works just fine. It is whether they have the commitment to do what needs to be done for modification.

    If they have to make another one they have to, well, spend the time and money to make another one. When Empire was released in 2009, it was three years after MTW2. And mind you, that was STILL not a lot of time for them. The people that worked on it probably don't even work at CA anymore.
    If they just ditched Total War and use an existing engine on the market, there's licensing problems. And they probably can't just choose whatever engine they like.
    jamreal18 said:

    But shouldn't they invest on a more decent engine?

    If they do, they only need to patch it lightly and customers will be happy.

    That's not how game engines work.

    What makes consumers think the game engine bad may be the reasons why CA thinks makes the game engine good.

    Bugs aren't an engine problem, it's a game design problem, and a problem of not spending enough time to iron things out before release. This has nothing to do with the game engine's suitability. With Norsca it was divergent game code; the engine had developed so much from that used by WH1 that you couldn't copy and paste things in.

    If you want a situation where game is only needed to be "patched lightly" whatever that's supposed to mean, you make sure the game's never in a situation that it needs a lot of patching to begin with. This is not an engine problem, and indeed changing engines is going to guarantee that getting worse for the first several years.

    Corrected action is the most sincere form of apology.
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