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Warhammer 3 units overview: Soul Grinder

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"I shivered at the sight of her - her beauty far beyond that of mortal man. But her soul glowed with an inner darkness that chilled my very core."









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  • unknown_oneunknown_one Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 152
    Keep that thing out of the game.

    It was never meant to be a fantasy unit, just an attempt at making some extra cash from GW.

    There are lots of other, more deserving, units than this 40k abomination.
  • LudboneLudbone Registered Users Posts: 2,167

    Keep that thing out of the game.

    It was never meant to be a fantasy unit, just an attempt at making some extra cash from GW.

    There are lots of other, more deserving, units than this 40k abomination.

    Keep your sheets out of this discussion instead.

    OT: a pretty big killing machine! Perfect for Khorne's roster.
    Can't wait for the "Toad Dragon vs Soul Grinder" battle.
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  • RikRiorik#9890RikRiorik#9890 Registered Users Posts: 12,001
    No thank you.
    Lord of the Undermountain and your friendly neighbourhood giant (Dwarf)
  • GerardofthetitanGerardofthetitan Registered Users Posts: 445
    Oh oh, another unique and cool daemon! Khorne, you bloody bastard...you have so many amazing followers and creatures!
    I'm a Slaanesh and Nurgle fan, but i'm very intrigued to play with Mono Khorne before them.
  • HeresyHoundHeresyHound Registered Users Posts: 8,285

    Oh oh, another unique and cool daemon! Khorne, you bloody bastard...you have so many amazing followers and creatures!
    I'm a Slaanesh and Nurgle fan, but i'm very intrigued to play with Mono Khorne before them.

    I mean the Soul Grinder isn't a Khorne exclusive and there are Soul Grinders pledged to all 4 gods.
  • DraculasaurusDraculasaurus Registered Users Posts: 4,771
  • BaronRodney#9956BaronRodney#9956 Registered Users Posts: 1,269
    I don’t have a problem with the rules for this unit but I have to say the aesthetics bother me. Perhaps have it walk on crab claws and get rid of the metal.

    I’m willing to give CA the benefit of the doubt with it though; so far I’ve agreed with just about all of their design choices.
  • RikRiorik#9890RikRiorik#9890 Registered Users Posts: 12,001

    I don’t have a problem with the rules for this unit but I have to say the aesthetics bother me. Perhaps have it walk on crab claws and get rid of the metal.

    I’m willing to give CA the benefit of the doubt with it though; so far I’ve agreed with just about all of their design choices.

    Yes as long as the aesthetics are changed I've got no problem either. But as it is? Gods no.
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  • Mr_Finley7#4571Mr_Finley7#4571 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 8,375
    Stupid lore, stupid model, clearly designed for 40k and thrown into WHFB for the **** of it.
  • NeutronStarNeutronStar Registered Users Posts: 161

    I don’t have a problem with the rules for this unit but I have to say the aesthetics bother me. Perhaps have it walk on crab claws and get rid of the metal.

    I’m willing to give CA the benefit of the doubt with it though; so far I’ve agreed with just about all of their design choices.

    God please no...
  • NyxilisNyxilis Registered Users Posts: 7,552
    The aesthetics should indeed be changes. I had no qualms with them taking inspiration from 40k stuff and putting in fantasy and vice versa as daemons often don't look out of place in either or. Also, so long as they were properly adapted to fit the scene.

    Soul Grinder was not, they didn't do a substantial thing at all. So it still looks like it should be 40k. It's not got a steampunk element to mimic empire, or organic which most others show.

    So yeah, aesthetic redo then I'd be alright.
  • Sir_GodspeedSir_Godspeed Registered Users Posts: 3,599
    Never been a fan of this model. Looks too much like they smashed a generic-looking demon fellow on top of a Chaos Space Marine Defiler. Also the name... GW at its most generic. "Noun verber"-syndrome.
  • Tears_After_HateTears_After_Hate Registered Users Posts: 143
  • NinjipplesNinjipples Registered Users Posts: 843
    I remember when they added this to TT, they were like 'all the fantasy daemons can be used in 40k because we provide alternative bits for both in the box in instances where the models aren't the same! So you should try both games'

    Then I saw the soul grinder, and it was so obviously just a straight up 40k unit. It looks like a daemon prince tried to take a defiler as a suppository and then stopped when it got to the crab legs.

    The moment I saw that model it was obvious that GW was like 'should we do something about this model? It doesn't really fit fantasy... maybe we could add another monster.... NO that'd cost money and wouldn’t be in the 40k army book so we wouldn't sell as many... just make some **** up about it being bound to the machine for some reason. Who cares if that still doesn't explain why such an advanced machine exists in WFB to begin with'... and then I audibly said "oh **** off games workshop" and every one of my friends and I decided to pretend it didn't exist from that moment on.

    So basically my answer is no... that thing does not fit the aesthetic of the game world and should not be in the game.
  • Michael4537Michael4537 Registered Users Posts: 2,377
    If it makes it in, that's neat, but I don't think I'll miss it too much if it's left out.
  • GodWillTellGodWillTell Registered Users Posts: 1,148
    People are trying to remove units from the DoC roster...really? And that's another good reason why we need Monogods (4 mixed Daemons + Warriors + Beastmen rosters, from all the GW material) and why they must be in the game. Since, in the end, DoC will only have half of its roster at very best, if CA takes these comments into consideration, LOL.

    Since i'm not a "half-done and incomplete roster is good" fan.........i would like to see Soul Grinder in the game, in one of the Monogods rosters at least. Peace.


  • Vanilla_Gorilla#8529Vanilla_Gorilla#8529 Registered Users Posts: 38,468
    What a hideous unit. It's literally just a 40k unit shoved into fantasy. It makes as much sense as Chaos Space Marines.

    Remove the cannon, make it more organic (like the Juggernaut) and it'll be good. CA have fixed other ugly TT units. This will be their biggest challenge, hopefully they can succeed.
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  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 20,892
    Don't get me wrong, I like Doom and the new generation of games.. not in TWWH though.
  • endurstonehelmendurstonehelm Registered Users Posts: 4,189
    If they give us all the other units, including all the greater daemons and the daemon princes and heralds, I have no problem with also throwing in a soul grinder. But this should be the last unit created, as all the other units are more important. As others have said, this is really more of a 40k unit.

  • PTreePTree Registered Users Posts: 966

    Keep that thing out of the game.

    It was never meant to be a fantasy unit, just an attempt at making some extra cash from GW.

    There are lots of other, more deserving, units than this 40k abomination.

    I agree. It doesn't fit.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 18,941
    PTree said:

    Keep that thing out of the game.

    It was never meant to be a fantasy unit, just an attempt at making some extra cash from GW.

    There are lots of other, more deserving, units than this 40k abomination.

    I agree. It doesn't fit.
    keep it for total war warhammer 40k i'll buy it

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  • Vanilla_Gorilla#8529Vanilla_Gorilla#8529 Registered Users Posts: 38,468
    PTree said:

    Keep that thing out of the game.

    It was never meant to be a fantasy unit, just an attempt at making some extra cash from GW.

    There are lots of other, more deserving, units than this 40k abomination.

    I agree. It doesn't fit.
    It doesn't fit Currently because it's got a defiler body and a cannon. Just doesn't work for Fantasy.

    It can be fixed though.
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  • HeresyHoundHeresyHound Registered Users Posts: 8,285

    PTree said:

    Keep that thing out of the game.

    It was never meant to be a fantasy unit, just an attempt at making some extra cash from GW.

    There are lots of other, more deserving, units than this 40k abomination.

    I agree. It doesn't fit.
    It doesn't fit Currently because it's got a defiler body and a cannon. Just doesn't work for Fantasy.

    It can be fixed though.
    We can rebuild him, we have the technology.
  • WyvaxWyvax Registered Users Posts: 6,080
    Just make his robotic bits into pieces of armor held in place by fleshy tendons. Viola.
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  • Vanilla_Gorilla#8529Vanilla_Gorilla#8529 Registered Users Posts: 38,468

    PTree said:

    Keep that thing out of the game.

    It was never meant to be a fantasy unit, just an attempt at making some extra cash from GW.

    There are lots of other, more deserving, units than this 40k abomination.

    I agree. It doesn't fit.
    It doesn't fit Currently because it's got a defiler body and a cannon. Just doesn't work for Fantasy.

    It can be fixed though.
    We can rebuild him, we have the technology.
    We have the creativity.

    The 6 million Charlemagne unit.
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  • Mr_Finley7#4571Mr_Finley7#4571 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 8,375
    I wish they’d stop spending all our Charlemagnes on other projects.
  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Registered Users Posts: 11,365

    I remember when they added this to TT, they were like 'all the fantasy daemons can be used in 40k because we provide alternative bits for both in the box in instances where the models aren't the same! So you should try both games'

    Then I saw the soul grinder, and it was so obviously just a straight up 40k unit. It looks like a daemon prince tried to take a defiler as a suppository and then stopped when it got to the crab legs.

    The moment I saw that model it was obvious that GW was like 'should we do something about this model? It doesn't really fit fantasy... maybe we could add another monster.... NO that'd cost money and wouldn’t be in the 40k army book so we wouldn't sell as many... just make some **** up about it being bound to the machine for some reason. Who cares if that still doesn't explain why such an advanced machine exists in WFB to begin with'... and then I audibly said "oh **** off games workshop" and every one of my friends and I decided to pretend it didn't exist from that moment on.

    So basically my answer is no... that thing does not fit the aesthetic of the game world and should not be in the game.

    It was something GW initially recognised: the 7E DoC book was released simultaneously with a 40K DoC book (although I forget which edition). The 40K book had the Soul Grinder, the Fantasy book did not.

    It was added to Fantasy in a later update, probably after they'd decided to go to AoS.

    A visual redesign would probably cover it, though.
  • NinjipplesNinjipples Registered Users Posts: 843
    Draxynnic said:

    I remember when they added this to TT, they were like 'all the fantasy daemons can be used in 40k because we provide alternative bits for both in the box in instances where the models aren't the same! So you should try both games'

    Then I saw the soul grinder, and it was so obviously just a straight up 40k unit. It looks like a daemon prince tried to take a defiler as a suppository and then stopped when it got to the crab legs.

    The moment I saw that model it was obvious that GW was like 'should we do something about this model? It doesn't really fit fantasy... maybe we could add another monster.... NO that'd cost money and wouldn’t be in the 40k army book so we wouldn't sell as many... just make some **** up about it being bound to the machine for some reason. Who cares if that still doesn't explain why such an advanced machine exists in WFB to begin with'... and then I audibly said "oh **** off games workshop" and every one of my friends and I decided to pretend it didn't exist from that moment on.

    So basically my answer is no... that thing does not fit the aesthetic of the game world and should not be in the game.

    It was something GW initially recognised: the 7E DoC book was released simultaneously with a 40K DoC book (although I forget which edition). The 40K book had the Soul Grinder, the Fantasy book did not.

    It was added to Fantasy in a later update, probably after they'd decided to go to AoS.

    A visual redesign would probably cover it, though.
    Yeah the Soul Grinder was added to WFB in the 8th ed. book. Up until that point GW understood that it didn't belong in WFB and so left it out... then in 8th they stopped caring and added it in anyway to boost sales and came up with some BS lore for how it existed in the WFB world
  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Registered Users Posts: 11,365

    Draxynnic said:

    I remember when they added this to TT, they were like 'all the fantasy daemons can be used in 40k because we provide alternative bits for both in the box in instances where the models aren't the same! So you should try both games'

    Then I saw the soul grinder, and it was so obviously just a straight up 40k unit. It looks like a daemon prince tried to take a defiler as a suppository and then stopped when it got to the crab legs.

    The moment I saw that model it was obvious that GW was like 'should we do something about this model? It doesn't really fit fantasy... maybe we could add another monster.... NO that'd cost money and wouldn’t be in the 40k army book so we wouldn't sell as many... just make some **** up about it being bound to the machine for some reason. Who cares if that still doesn't explain why such an advanced machine exists in WFB to begin with'... and then I audibly said "oh **** off games workshop" and every one of my friends and I decided to pretend it didn't exist from that moment on.

    So basically my answer is no... that thing does not fit the aesthetic of the game world and should not be in the game.

    It was something GW initially recognised: the 7E DoC book was released simultaneously with a 40K DoC book (although I forget which edition). The 40K book had the Soul Grinder, the Fantasy book did not.

    It was added to Fantasy in a later update, probably after they'd decided to go to AoS.

    A visual redesign would probably cover it, though.
    Yeah the Soul Grinder was added to WFB in the 8th ed. book. Up until that point GW understood that it didn't belong in WFB and so left it out... then in 8th they stopped caring and added it in anyway to boost sales and came up with some BS lore for how it existed in the WFB world
    If I recall correctly, they made one of their rare between-book updates between the major books where they added the Soulgrinder to Fantasy. Can't remember whether that was technically in 8E or 7E, but it would definitely be after GW retconned the Storm of Chaos timeline and started the End Times timeline instead.

    Regardless, when the Soul Grinder was first made, it was a 40K-only unit. It was added to Fantasy when GW stopped caring.
  • Some_ScribeSome_Scribe Registered Users Posts: 1,382
    I agree with those saying it should get a visual update. Right now, the mechanical parts of the Soul Grinder look way more sci-fi than anything we've seen in Fantasy, and that includes Chaos Dwarf daemon engines.
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