Next TW Saga Title

mcar110 · August 2019

I know this isn’t the saga forum but since very few people seem to use it I figured I’d post in in the 3K one which is far more active:

https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-saga-is-heading-to-troy-according-to-a-trademark-application/?utm_content=bufferd8371&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-pcgamertw

EDIT: Apologies, managed to somehow post it in the wrong forum. @dge1 Can this please be shifted to 3K’s forum?

neodeinos · August 2019

Don't see much the interest in Troy, it would work better as a DLC for Rome 2 honestly. And I hope we won't get any "fantasy" elements, it's great for the fantasy fans but I really miss a purely historical title.

Tsiar · August 2019

Will Jack "JUST **** MY GAME UP" Lusted still be in charge?

Crossil · August 2019

Should go to Saga forum, intended to post in 3K, posted in Warhammer.

You're only missing Rome II and Attila.

Fossoway · August 2019

You wanted to post this on the wrong forum, but somehow posted it on another wrong forum, so now you're asking for a mod to move it to the first mentioned wrong forum?

Is this really confirmed to be the next Saga? Because Troy is not exactly TW material, first it's half fantasy (probably more than half), and it's not really multiple factions fighting against each others. If I recall, it's a coalition of city states trying to siege Troy. The Greek (and Allies) vs the Trojans (and Allies). 1 major faction vs another. Kinda hard to stuff that into the TW formula. And since the Iliad covers a lot of different characters, the diplomacy would be closer to 3K as it would focus on characters rather than armies.

I don't know how I feel about that, tbh. I'd much rather have something more grounded in reality, like the Imjin War or the Fall of Constantinople.

darkgaia01 · August 2019

the only thing that would make this interesting if it been done a brand new game engine to show of what future total wars would be built on

BillyRuffian · August 2019

Actually it's speculation about the possible next Saga so belongs in TW General Chat. So moved.

Fossoway · August 2019

BillyRuffian said:
Actually it's speculation about the possible next Saga so belongs in TW General Chat. So moved.

Sadly it's also a good way to nuke the conversation into the ground, since there is no specific Saga forum and barely anyone reads the General Chat

mcar110 · August 2019

Crossil said:
Should go to Saga forum, intended to post in 3K, posted in Warhammer.

You're only missing Rome II and Attila.

I know, over excited posting. I intended to put it in the 3K forum because almost no one looks at the Saga forum so I figured it’d get more exposure there

3982173917524862 · August 2019

I hope this has at least more work put into it than ToB. I love Ancient Greece and the Iliad. Pretty high potential if they actually make it a good title. Unfortunately I only see this as a 3K game with the hero system and a Ancient Greek paint. I hope they at least take the more fantasy elements into this game and go away with records mode, because if they aren't going to commit to making it fun, there's no need for it like in 3K.

jamreal18 · August 2019

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-trademark-reveals-next-total-war-game-is-the-trojan-war-20190809.amp.html

Is this true?

Axlswhk · August 2019

Hope it’s true, would rather buy a Trojan series than 8 prince.

Ephraim_Dalton · August 2019

jamreal18 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-trademark-reveals-next-total-war-game-is-the-trojan-war-20190809.amp.html

Is this true?

Who knows?

But I wonder whether they'd go the Warhammer route and add mythical Greek beasties and divine intervention to it or the 3K route and ground it more in reality but with superpowered heroes and generals.

jamreal18 · August 2019

What will be the factions?

Will there be rich unit variety and diversity for each faction?

jamreal18 · August 2019

Ephraim_Dalton said:

jamreal18 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-trademark-reveals-next-total-war-game-is-the-trojan-war-20190809.amp.html

Is this true?
Who knows?

But I wonder whether they'd go the Warhammer route and add mythical Greek beasties and divine intervention to it or the 3K route and ground it more in reality but with superpowered heroes and generals.

Making beasts is costly just like Ghorgon.

Even Saga is now turning into fantasy.

Warlord_Lu_Bu · August 2019

ehhhh.... that'd be boring... already got Rome 2 for Greek stuff and their oh so heroic, Helot Slave murdering Spartans. I would rather see TW Medieval 3 or TW The Rise of the Mongols.

jamreal18 · August 2019

Warlord_Lu_Bu said:
ehhhh.... that'd be boring... already got Rome 2 for Greek stuff and their oh so heroic, Helot Slave murdering Spartans. I would rather see TW Medieval 3 or TW The Rise of the Mongols.

Medieval 3 and Mongols shall have their own game.

Krunch · August 2019

jamreal18 said:
What will be the factions?

Will there be rich unit variety and diversity for each faction?

It's going to be Wrath of Sparta but with a more Bronze Age as opposed to classical aesthetic.

Ephraim_Dalton · August 2019

Here are some probable factions and cultures:

Dardanians : Troy, Colonos. Phrygian, maybe even Hittite influence
Danaians : Argos, Mycenae, Sparta, Ithaka, Salamis, etc. Mainland Bronze Age Greek
Crete: Idomeneus' faction, Minoan
Ethiopia: Memnon's faction, Ethiopian
Amazons : Penthesilea's faction, Scythian

Fheooo · August 2019

This is one of the ones I've wanted foe some time. It would be cool to have it like three kingdoms, in that there's a "records" and "romance" mode.

Ephraim_Dalton · August 2019

Let's also not forget that the Trojan War was essentially a 10-year siege. Wonder how they'll portray that.

Warlord_Lu_Bu · August 2019

jamreal18 said:

Warlord_Lu_Bu said:
ehhhh.... that'd be boring... already got Rome 2 for Greek stuff and their oh so heroic, Helot Slave murdering Spartans. I would rather see TW Medieval 3 or TW The Rise of the Mongols.
Medieval 3 and Mongols shall have their own game.

But when? the greatest empire in the world that has ever existed... still doesn't have it's own game? and Medieval 3 has been asked for, for like 10-15 years.

Suliot · August 2019

I'm SUPER excited for a Bronze Age setting, this is amazing news if it turns out to be true! I just hope that the title is not only centered on the Achaean/Trojan Conflict but also includes the rest of the Bronze Age civilizations. Hopefully they chose the title Troy, only because it's more recognizable.

Another thing I hope for, is that the game will be much more historical than 3K, in a similar way how ToB is quite historically accurate. There's just so many colorful civilizations from the period, giving this setting an incredible potential!

And I also hope the (Trojan)Dardanians will be a playable faction!

Whiskeyjack_5691 · August 2019

Not really sure how I feel about the idea of a Trojan War Total War game right now. I'm certainly curious, but I'll have to do some reading into it before I become interested.

BillyRuffian · August 2019

Similar threads merged.

Edit: @jamreal18 there is no one "historical" forum - only one forum per game for the recent games, one forum for the older games, and TW General Chat for anything in the future and non game-specific items.

jamreal18 · August 2019

I prefer Bronze Age though....

3982173917524862 · August 2019

Saga games are lower budget and probably won't have as much people are hoping for. No mythological creatures, but possibility of divine interventions on the battlefield by the Greek Patheon.
I'm going by the precedent that ToB brought. The game should be a 3K hero and character mechanics meets ancient Greece setting. I don't know what the campaign objectives and if we'll have more than 2 cultures, that's what I'm most excited about. We will probably see a patronage system similar to the Norsca campaign and 8P alignments chart. 8P seems like it was testing grounds for that honestly.

Jedidias1 · August 2019

I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I found this news regarding the next Saga and I wanted to share:
https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-saga-is-heading-to-troy-according-to-a-trademark-application/

If the rumors are true I think this is really great!

Jedidias1 · August 2019

If this is true I think it is great news for Rome 2 players!

https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-saga-is-heading-to-troy-according-to-a-trademark-application/

davedave1124 · August 2019

I think this could be the formula for all historical games to counter the diversity of Warhammer.

Instead of a historical version of The 300 we will see a historical and film/fantasy version.

3982173917524862 · August 2019

davedave1124 said:
I think this could be the formula for all historical games to counter the diversity of Warhammer.

Instead of a historical version of The 300 we will see a historical and film/fantasy version.

I would rather have a focused game where the primary and only mode is developed than lazily slapping a fantasy/realism mode. Records mode needs work in 3K and I don't want these easy bandaid fixes that only exist to please both fanbases.
Do it properly or don't do it at all.

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