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question for CA concerning " share mandate of heaven" and coalitions

Darth_Revan2Darth_Revan2 Registered Users Posts: 10
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So what I am wondering is, you have a friendly Co-op campaign with a friend.

Lets say I play as Ma Teng and my friend as Liu Bei. We both form our own coalitions because we are so far appart.
What happens when we agree on a "share mandate of heaven" through diplomancy to bind our winning condition together.

1. Are the coalitions joined? Do you have to choose between one of them?
2. Is there any difference on the consequences if it is pre- 3k event or after it?
> for example we are both in top 3 biggest factions do we get 2 emperor seats (1 each) or only one because we have shared mandate before the event kicks in?

And depending on the answer at nr 1. what do the coalitions do if you are in the 3k period, are they at war (assuming you both get a seat) or are they 2 seperate alliances working together?


I hope that my serie of questions is clear in what I mean.

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  • HugothesterHugothester Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 566
    edited May 2019
    In older total wars you had to choose a vs campaign, where you could just fight your friend, or a coop campaign, where you would always be allied with your friend.

    Here you have freedom, you can fight or declare peace as you want. But once you agree on sharing the mandate of heaven it becomes a coop campaign (as in older total war titles).

    I would recommend you do not use the option until the end of the game, since you will loose the chance to have some fun betraying your friend at some points during the campaign, which is always a ton of fun.

    Coalitions are a different thing, even before sharing the mandate of heavens you can create a coalition with your friend, essentialy he is just another faction out there.

    I do not remember if you loose some other options such as espionage, sabotage or diplomatic options such as Cao Cao's, but I hope I helped you get the general idea.
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  • Darth_Revan2Darth_Revan2 Registered Users Posts: 10
    Hugothester said:

    In older total wars you had to choose a vs campaign, where you could just fight your friend, or a coop campaign, where you would always be allied with your friend.

    Here you have freedom, you can fight or declare peace as you want. But once you agree on sharing the mandate of heaven it becomes a coop campaign (as in older total war titles).

    I would recommend you do not use the option until the end of the game, since you will loose the chance to have some fun betraying your friend at some points during the campaign, which is always a ton of fun.

    Coalitions are a different thing, even before sharing the mandate of heavens you can create a coalition with your friend, essentialy he is just another faction out there.

    I do not remember if you loose some other options such as espionage, sabotage or diplomatic options such as Cao Cao's, but I hope I helped you get the general idea.

    Thanks for the answer, but the core of my question is not answered yet (the impact on the coalitions the 2 players have), although I think only CA can do that because it is quite a niche question.

    But I am gratefull to the fact you took the time to give such an extended answer, at least I have a partly answer :)
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  • HugothesterHugothester Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 566
    No problem, sorry for nor being able to answer the core of your question, I have only played 1 hour of coop campaign with another youtuber, so I am fully talking from memory, we will get answers in 20 hours though ;)
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  • Darth_Revan2Darth_Revan2 Registered Users Posts: 10
    Hugothester said:

    No problem, sorry for nor being able to answer the core of your question, I have only played 1 hour of coop campaign with another youtuber, so I am fully talking from memory, we will get answers in 20 hours though ;)

    indeed only would have been nice to know the consequences before you mess up your 40hr co-op campaign with this ^^
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  • Darth_Revan2Darth_Revan2 Registered Users Posts: 10
    Hugothester said:

    No problem, sorry for nor being able to answer the core of your question, I have only played 1 hour of coop campaign with another youtuber, so I am fully talking from memory, we will get answers in 20 hours though ;)

    5 months later, still no reply. Neither have any of my other questions, i am giving up on this forum, it is just pointless at this point.

    I see that posts get answered, but if i get nothing in 5 months and have several others but still no answer?

    I was glad to see that in pre release they where listening to our critique, like the unit cards and the OP trebuchets.
    But this is nearly giving me the oposite feeling.

    In streams they are really helpfull, they try, but in the end they referrence here to get more detailed answers. If i woul get any here...........
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  • vonmaeyraevonmaeyrae Registered Users Posts: 3
    Alliances only break between the three kingdoms so my assumption would be that if you have separate coalitions those remains separate coalitions. When you mandate of heaven shared with a pal you're still individual factions with your own diplomacy but share that win condition of owning all 3 emperor seats. Essentially need to capture only that third one if you and the friend start with the emperor seats as the end game begins.

    No clue what would happen if you're in the same alliance with a shared mandate and both end up owning a seat when the end game triggers. Default rules would break that alliance/coalition. You can't make alliances with other emperors/kings after the 3K event starts but once again not sure how it behaves with shared mandate from personal experience since I haven't needed an in-game alliance with my coop pals outside of the mandate.
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