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  • Loupi_Loupi_ Registered Users Posts: 3,423
    Pocman said:

    Adding Drycha or Araloth instead of Sisters and Ariel would be an insult.

    Araloth was a remake of Skaw the falconer, but making it even less unique. Not only that, GW, in its idiocy, gave him a super duper cool looking spear... which is not a magical item. It is just an asrai spear, no special rules. Most boring and stupid character ever.


    Drycha is even worse: she does not even have a unique model, plus she can't use lore of life spells. It's just a branchwraith with worse spells.


    Ariel and Sisters... or riot.


    Drycha at least could be implemented in an interesting way, and she could get a really cool unique model. If she was added I'd see her as more armoured slightly faster hellebron with lore of shadows, and unique ambush and anti wood elf campaign mechanics. She could become one of the best foot lords in the game.

    But Ariel is the most important wood elf character and is the best choice by far.
  • PocmanPocman Registered Users Posts: 5,601
    Louis_1 said:

    Pocman said:

    Adding Drycha or Araloth instead of Sisters and Ariel would be an insult.

    Araloth was a remake of Skaw the falconer, but making it even less unique. Not only that, GW, in its idiocy, gave him a super duper cool looking spear... which is not a magical item. It is just an asrai spear, no special rules. Most boring and stupid character ever.


    Drycha is even worse: she does not even have a unique model, plus she can't use lore of life spells. It's just a branchwraith with worse spells.


    Ariel and Sisters... or riot.


    Drycha at least could be implemented in an interesting way, and she could get a really cool unique model. If she was added I'd see her as more armoured slightly faster hellebron with lore of shadows, and unique ambush and anti wood elf campaign mechanics. She could become one of the best foot lords in the game.

    But Ariel is the most important wood elf character and is the best choice by far.
    The only real purpose Drycha had was freeing Coeddil to allow the inclusion in later editions of a super corrupted giant tree monster. The End of Times cancelled that possibility.

    So f. Drycha.

    Ariel and Sisters or Riot.
  • Arthas_MenethilArthas_Menethil Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 7,143
    Pocman said:


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    It does matter because Ariel is a 4/5th edition character who was purged (Which purged the likes of Repanse and Magnus the Pious) with many others and did not return in the 6-End times army books/lists which means she is out of range until the 8th edition characters are in (Also the GW was against giving the WE a named wizard lord). Which has been shown by CA that they focus the army books/lists chosen (8th edition being the base) before reaching out to other sources (Lore, previous editions and forgeworld) throughout games one and two. That's why CA went with Ghorst because the Vampire Counts ran out of available Generals (VC rules don't allow for non-magic users to be the general) since they planned Vlad as the FLC and Isabella for the Valentines event as Konrad and Krell cannot use magic and as such are not allowed to lead VC armies.

    ****. CA could have perfectly changed the rules to make Krell or Konrad lead armies and no one would have taken offense. They did not use them because Isabella and Vlad were more relevant, and because Krell and Kemmler are a "kit".

    Ariel was not purged. She was still one of the most important characters in the WE lore, with most of the 8th edition evolution of the faction being linked to her story (spellweavers using light and dark magic, for example).




    Then one must remember the Characters CA has chosen before Ghorst over Nefarata, Red Duke and Mallobaude (wouldn't fit in with Brets campaign mechanic), Alberic over Tancred, Repanse and Bohemond Beastslayer and Tretch Craventail over Ikit Claw, Throt the Unclean and Thanquol they most certainly have chosen more generic characters over the more unique ones so best to keep ones expectations low.

    Trying to compare Ariel with the likes of Tancred, Repanse, Red Duke, etc. is a joke. Those are the same as Araloth: standard archetypical characters with 0 relevance and originality and that could be replaced at any moment by a similar character (and in fact, was replaced continuously) by CA. They are only slightly better options than Alberic or Ghorst. Ariel on the other hand is as important and unique as Orion.

    Thanquol and Ikit Claw will be added in the future, so that is not an argument.

    "CA could have perfectly changed the rules to make Krell or Konrad lead armies and no one would have taken offense. They did not use them because Isabella and Vlad were more relevant, and because Krell and Kemmler are a "kit".

    Ariel was not purged. She was still one of the most important characters in the WE lore, with most of the 8th edition evolution of the faction being linked to her story (spellweavers using light and dark magic, for example)."

    Actually CA probably couldn't have GW plus what crumbling is meant to represent which would make zero sense with Krell and Konrad somehow having magic to hold the undead forces together. Then there's the bit where ALL lords ingame as far as I remember could lead armies and CA has made no exceptions for that.

    If we start messing with races theme then where does it stop? When Bretonnias theme shifts to infantry, when the Wood Elves stop the Ranged theme and start a cavalry theme or when the Empire drops their jack of all trades theme to focus something because CA can perfectly change the rules.

    Ariel was purged as she was reduced to a background character as she was no longer a playable character hence why she has no rules in the 6 edition and onwards since Games Workshop chose to not have her for the WE anymore.

    "Trying to compare Ariel with the likes of Tancred, Repanse, Red Duke, etc. is a joke. Those are the same as Araloth: standard archetypical characters with 0 relevance and originality and that could be replaced at any moment by a similar character (and in fact, was replaced continuously) by CA. They are only slightly better options than Alberic or Ghorst. Ariel on the other hand is as important and unique as Orion."

    That was pointing out a characters importance to their race like how Alberic has less importance then Tancred, Repanse and Bohemond to show that CA doesn't care about their importance to the race as when they had a when since they were no longer limited by an army book with Bretonnia they went for a less important and generic character instead of the more important ones from previous army books and the lore.


    I do not see Ariel happening because there are characters still in the 8th Edition which CA DOES NOT stray from until they run out of choices from the chosen army list/book (as has been shown throughout the game) along with CA having already shown to not care about a characters importance to their race with the lords they've chosen for certain races.
    So...the Light's vaunted justice has finally arrived. Shall I lay down Frostmourne and throw myself at your mercy, Fordring?

  • notoriousssvicccnotoriousssviccc Registered Users Posts: 13
    edited November 2019


    Definitely yes! I concur with this post.
    we need a legendary lord for the wood elves that looks more like an elf knight (ok with the current women and beasts alike but a little more variety, make not only the decision based on the lore, for the ones that are not so deep into it).
    I am sure there are more like Alaroth, if that is not the preferred one.
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