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Lizardmen AI Crippling themselves with Primeval Glory very early on.

ItharusItharus Senior MemberRegistered Users Posts: 8,100
Just a heads up...

Itza, and most other lizards, love to cast Rite of Primeval Glory (I think is the name?) -- the one that summons all the dinos -- as early as turn 15-20.

First off.... gd.... that's.... borderline unfair to fight against that early.

Second... it's crippling them.

They can't actually afford to maintain that army for very long at all, and as soon as they run out of money they wind up suffering a blow-back collapse as everyone just stomps their now undefended over-spread-out land claim from the dinos. TBH I'm not even sure how they afford to do the rite in the first place that early. Is it reduced cost for them or something?

Regardless... it's both ridiculous to fight against that early and it's hurting them.

Maybe consider changing it a bit for the AI? The AI is also prone to spamming that rite as much as possible... and even later on when they're in a heavy war it's more often a hindrance than help after about 5 turns since the AI isn't very good at managing its finances.

Just giving them more money is NOT the answer, mind you. Please don't do that.

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  • GamgeeGamgee Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 1,821
  • Bogdanov89Bogdanov89 Registered Users Posts: 732
    Yea honestly it should be free from upkeep for the AI.
    Lizardmen are still getting wrecked by greenskins and norska in vortex.
    Check out the Community Bug Fix Mod on the Steam Workshop.
  • VictuzVictuz Registered Users Posts: 162

    Yea honestly it should be free from upkeep for the AI.
    Lizardmen are still getting wrecked by greenskins and norska in vortex.

    If the AI get free of unkeep then we will have a hard time with everyone. The Lizardmen AI must be changed to cast less army rites.
  • ItharusItharus Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 8,100

    Yea honestly it should be free from upkeep for the AI.
    Lizardmen are still getting wrecked by greenskins and norska in vortex.

    No... you'd wind up getting stacks and stacks and stacks like that as the rite expired and they made more of them.

    They need better scripts to intelligently use the bloody things is all.
  • Michael4537Michael4537 Registered Users Posts: 2,183
    Itharus said:

    Yea honestly it should be free from upkeep for the AI.
    Lizardmen are still getting wrecked by greenskins and norska in vortex.

    No... you'd wind up getting stacks and stacks and stacks like that as the rite expired and they made more of them.

    They need better scripts to intelligently use the bloody things is all.
    The AI needs work in general, methinks.
  • ShivaXShivaX Registered Users Posts: 256
    edited January 7
    Yeah, playing near lizards is really annoying right now.

    They pop the rite, stomp all over you, then suffer horrifically since they can't afford it.

    If you have a buffer to absorb the initial beatdown, then you just roll over them.
  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Registered Users Posts: 7,009
    It's something they should probably treat as a reserve force to pull out when they need it, rather than throwing it out willy-nilly. It's how I use it, anyway...
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