Remember the time when vampires had infinite healing, there was no healing cap, Fate of Bjuna was OP and only 4-5 races existed in the game?
Yeah, I don't want to go back to that either. lol
That being said the monsters of Vampire counts are REALLY lackluster.
Argument 1 - Leadership.
They have extremely low leadership meaning they'll take damage just from existing on the map (basicly negating the regeneration -some- of them got. We are talking leadership on par with Trolls here! Trolls! The ones who route at the sight of an enemy.
Crypt Horrors got 44 leadership! That is troll territory! Terrorgheist sport 40 leadership lmfaoo
Argument 2 - Survivability
No only do they crumple at the sight of the enemy (doing harm to themselves) they don't have physical resistance like Norscan monsters nor armor. On top of that their melee defence is none existing.
Crypt Horrors got 15 armor lol
A pityful 25 melee defence
they crumple with low leadership negating their "regeneration"
and they got no physical resistance or missile resistance traits.
This is even worst with Vargheist sporting the pitiful 10 armor, 24 melee defence and no regeneration.
Ever tried using them? They charge and they die lol. they're so flimsy.
Just for reference armored skin wolves got:
-55 more armor than Crypt horrors
-16 more leadership
-Regeneration (that isn't affected by constant crumpling)
-3 more melee defence
-and 20% Physical resistance on top of that!
And this faction also got freaking mamoths, missile units and Femir warriors!
Even regular trolls got more survivability than vampire count monsters and they do more damage which leads me to my next argument:
Argument 3 - Damage potential
Vampire Counts fight with wet noodles.
Their "elite infantry" sport a melee attack of 26 (lol) most elite melee infantry is at 34-40 range.
I get it, they're meant to hold so that your monsters and magic can deal with the enemy - which is the problem.
Their monsters severely lack damage potential and their magic have been consistently nerfed since game 1.
Other factions got acces to BRUTAL magic like lore of fire (burning head, flame storm etc) racking in 300+ kills in aswell
And they got access to artillery .... and missile units.
And their monsters perform better in combat...
Again, for reference:
Regular trolls got same melee attack and got the same entity as crypt horrors
They do 30 more armor piercing damage pr. entity than crypt horrors! 30!
70 for crypt horrors, 100 for trolls!
Lets look at single entity damage:
Varghulf got the most pathetic DPS
1 entity doing flat 290 damage
Lets compare single entity monsters:
Giant: 600! (Norsca, Greenskins)
Mammoth: 575 with a bonus vs infantry (Norsca)
Dragon Ogre 460 with a bonus vs large (Chaos)
Feral Carnasaur 465 with bonus vs large (Lizardmen)
Rotting Leviathan (vampire coast) 400 damage bonus vs infantry
But it regenerate..
Yeah, so does the War Hydra (Dark Elves) and it does 440 damage and can shoot fire!
Hellpit abominations also heal and they sport 520 damage with a bonus vs large
But you can heal with...
Yeah, so can a Slann mage of life or Empire mage of life on steam tanks or Damsel on Royal Hippogryphs
When it comes to Dragons the Terrorgheist just doesn't hold a candle to Star Dragons and the other top tier dragon. Their 26 melee attack with quite weak. Also he Vampire Coast version of terrorgheist is just superior...
I'm not calling for a rollback of the Warhammer 1 days with death stars, infinite healing and overpowered magic.
Please don't make that argument because it would be untrue.
The Vampire Counts have been nerfed, nerfed and nerfed again.
But since they lack missiles and artillery and other factions also got acces to BRUTAL magic..
Can we atleast make their monstrous units somewhat on par with the others?
My suggestion would be:
-Leadership for crypt horrors
-Armor for Vargheist
-Damage for Vargulf
I want to thank you for taking the time to read my suggestions, let me know if you agree.. Maybe we could give the monsters of Vampire counts a little boost...
"It's the hottest fire that forge the strongest steel"