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CTD if wood elves get their turn or selected on campaign map

ArteriusArterius Registered Users Posts: 3
Build: v1.6.1

Detailed description: Game crashes to desktop once wood elves get their turn or if you select their army in the campaign map. As for the crash itself, the game freezes up for a few seconds before it crashes to desktop. No windows notifications about the program freezing/stopped working.

Reproduction Steps:
Version 1: Press end turn and wait for wood elves to get their turn.
Version 2: Click orion

Details of any solutions that have already been attempted:
Tried removing outdated mods
Tried checking for conflicting mods
Tried playing without any mods at all
Tried playing with a mod to make wood elves not expand or take settlements
Tried capturing their last main settlement on the last turn so that it wasn't related to them possibly trying to spawn something on my armies.


It's a real shame that this happend since I finally got to a point of trying to take over after the AI mod apparently made them really strong and playing a long defensive game.


  • Alixdrive@hotmail.com[email protected] Registered Users Posts: 1
    Having the exact same problem with my skaven campaign. If i touch a wood-elf settlement, Click Orion or end turn it immediately crashes to desktop on their turn. I've even done the trick of skipping their camera movements on their go which worked once before but nothing seems to be getting past this one. i have had this bug happen in a few campaigns. And it seems to be rare, it it truly Game breaking when it does occur. (Especially when this particular campaign play-through has been so Exciting)

    There is an old thread where CA addressed that they would address the issue but it still seems to be occurring.


    I just hope it gets fixed as i'm almost afraid of wasting my time on long campaigns if this is a potential occurrence.
  • ArteriusArterius Registered Users Posts: 3
    Yeah The same thing happened to me again I think. I gave up on that skaven campaign (shame) and was doing a Wulfrik one instead (with a trimmed down mod-list). Things were going great and I was raiding the old world when I run into a wood elf CTD on turn 115.

    At this point I hope they've fixed it when the hunter & the beast launches.
  • MagnusN87MagnusN87 Registered Users Posts: 1
    I can sadly confirm that the issue persists post hunter and the beast. Had to abort my empire campaign at turn 98 due to wood elf CTD. Real shame as the chaos invasion had just started and i was looking forward to the showdown with Archaon.

    If CA can't fix the problem, maybe the wood elf faction could be modded out?
  • NeodeinosNeodeinos Registered Users Posts: 9,065
    Same problem with the wood elves here. I can't attack their settlements without having a crash and sometimes even by clicking their armies or settlements. I haven't found the cause yet, I'll see if I can.
  • bnbchdbnbchd Registered Users Posts: 1
    same problem here too. I did empire campaign 144 turn and stuck in it
    whenever clicking wood elves army or wood elves get theirs turn, game crashed
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    edited October 2019
    scratch that ---
    Post edited by alij8000 on
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    so i figured that my modification wasn't enough and the removed factions would not lose their leaders and as a result would occupy their abondened lands,so i need to find out which lands those exactly are and award them to other factions instead,but it will take some time,don't start your campaigns just yet.
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    oh my other post apperantly didn't get approved yet,so im in the process of making a mod that removes all wood elves except the player if your playing as the wood elves to fix this crash for the time being,doubt CA is gonna do anything about it,too busy counting their $.
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    Allright all done,worked it all out,ur gonna need 2 things,download these two,put ''.pack'' into your warhammer 2 data folder alongside the other mods and enable it via kaedrin's mod manager,it makes sure laurelon forest and all the other minor wood elves factions don't spawn,
    HOWEVER,u will need to manualy delete the two major wood elf factions from the campaign by fighting them and razing their settlments to the ground ON TURN ONE,
    if you don't mind doing the same for the minor factions then you don't need the ''.pack'' mod,just use the cheatengine trainer to get unlimited action points and God-mode autoresolve ( only for turn 1 unless u wanna cheat :D ) in order to find and raze the wood elves before they have a chance to cause any bugs ( as the CTD they cause does not occur on turn 1,period ).
    for this u only need to know where they are and the cheatengine trianer provided,
    their location is around the oak of the ages ( u can search the wiki for its location ) and just a single town north of the empire landmarks called ''laurelorn forest'' shouldn't be hard to find given that you have unlimited action points.if u raise a settlment an ur action points become 0,don't wory,just hire a new lord ( u might need to occupy instead of raze to be able to recruit a lord in the new province ) and continue purging these mofoz.
    good luck and happy hunting :D !


    oh,if u don't know what cheatengine is,its what you need to run the cheat script,just google it.
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    Okay so here's an update,IF YOU EVER USE SEBDIE'S OFFICERS MOD,regardless of wether or not you disabled the mod after using it,IT IS 100% the cause of your crash with wood elves,
    there is a wood elf entry for the glade rider's unit that is causing your crash,you can confirm this by playing as the wood elves (just start a new campaign) and checking the building tree and hovering your mouse over the Final tier glade rider units,(final tier cav units)
    it will instantly crash your game.
    i have made a fix for this,using this fix u can continue playing your campaigns from before with no problems whatsoever.clicking wood elf armies etc should not cause you a crash as it doesn't for me anymore.this was never CA's problem to begin with,so my apologize to CA for being rude.
    as for people saying this CTD occurs without mods,it does not if your game is not tagged as ''modded'',even with mods disabled in mod manager,if you've modded your game before,it stays modded unless you reinstall it.as far as im aware.

    here is the link to the file you need,put this in your warhammer 2 data folder,overwrite if prompted,if not,just put it there and enable it regardless,check to see if the error is gone,i hope it helps.

  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    alternatively,if the solution above doesn't work for you,you can just use the cheatengine trainer i provided to obliterate wood elves before they have a any armies whatsoever to prevent the crash.
  • ehrde000ehrde000 Registered Users Posts: 1
    Wow, that fixed it for me. Thank you!
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    glad i could be of service :D !
  • ArteriusArterius Registered Users Posts: 3
    Nice find! I did actually use that mod during the wulfrik campaign so that' was probably the cause. Haven't had any issues post patch since I started it with no mods and only added about 3 back after a while. Going to delete that mod to play it safer then.

    Thanks for the detective work :)
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    happy to help :D,im more or less certain that most mods don't cause any issues like this,so you should be safe to play with most other mods,i personally use 120 mods or so not sure but i've had 0 issues with everything except this one,i even use outdated mods and its generally not an issue.
  • Madhatter0500Madhatter0500 Registered Users Posts: 1
    sorry, but what does the "fix" change?
  • BluegillsBluegills Registered Users Posts: 1
    I never used or downloaded that mod but have the same issue.
  • TriggermattiTriggermatti Registered Users Posts: 1
    Hey Alij8000. A huge thank you for the fix. Had three consecutive campaigns crash due to wood elf bug. Had my greatest Skarsnik campaign start and this bug reappeared.
    It was indeed Seebide officer mod that made the problem. Your fix worked great. BIIIG thank you. Great work!
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    the fix just keeps the wood elves from being affected by sebidees officers mod,doesn't change anything else.

    @Triggermatti glad i could be of help my friend :blush:
  • soylentsoylent Registered Users Posts: 1
    edited January 2020
    @alij8000 You saved my campaign. Thanks a lot!
  • Schnitzal02Schnitzal02 Registered Users Posts: 1
    i have never used or downloaded SEBDIE'S OFFICERS MOD an got the same problem in my campaign. Any ideas how to fix it? Does anyone know if there are any other mods which lead to the same crash?
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12

    you can diagnose the situation , on which faction's turn does your game always crash? which faction is the Next in the turn order? for example,if your game crashes on averland's turn,it might not be a problem caused by the averland faction,it may be caused by the turn of the faction that comes directly after.
    once you know which faction is causing the problem,play that faction,go into the building tree and scroll over each of the units in the building tree,make sure you got them all,if one of the units is causing a CTD,it will happen as soon as you make contact with that unit,wether it be facing it in battle,or scrolling over its unit card in the units tree,but keep in mind you can't diagnose this by going into custom battles as the units in custom battles sometimes don't cause crashes while their campaign counterparts will.
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    ...most people who are on this thread have had crashes relating to a unit from the wood elves faction,try checking their unit tree in the campaign,or try clicking on their armies to see if they cause you a CTD,i'll check this thread again in a few days,i'll try to help if i can if you do some digging on this and get back to me.good luck!
  • eL_MoJoeL_MoJo Registered Users Posts: 4

    Thanks so much for this you saved my campaign.
  • alij8000alij8000 Registered Users Posts: 12
    glad to be of service good sir!
  • J3arboboyJ3arboboy Registered Users Posts: 1
    Hey sorry for my English, I will try my best. I played as Empire my first Mortal Empires Campaign and now I reached turn 186 and always when the wood elves are making their turn the game crashes and I unfortunately installed this mod that cause the issue.
    I landed here and it seems to me that you are the only one that can help.
    But it is possible that your file is damaged or something like that, because I wanted to open and extract it with WinRaR and it doesn't work, so I tried to repair it and there was writen that there is a losing End and the Header would be damaged.
    I would be so glad, when you can help me or explain how to extract it correctly.

  • JorgeGOWJorgeGOW Registered Users Posts: 1
    Had the issue with both the wood Elves characters after 20 turns today. Other races does not seem to have any issues.
  • ArtfactialArtfactial Registered Users Posts: 265
    @alij8000 Thank you so much for this.:)
    Am using Sebdie's Officer mod and was getting these crashes.

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