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2nd Daemon Lord for Tzeentch - Changeling, Galrauch or Sarthorael?

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  • _Mad_D0c__Mad_D0c_ Registered Users Posts: 1,400
    ArneSo said:

    ArneSo said:



    The problem here is that we need a pure WoC and a pure DoC race next to the Monogod races.

    Like @Goatforce perfectly said, the best way to handle that is:

    - WoC
    - DoC
    - BM
    - Khorne
    - Tzeentch
    - Nurgle
    - Slaanesh

    So those first two would be Undivided headed by Archaon and Be'lakor with access to both monogod and undivided and then specific monogod factions with both Daemons and Warriors units of the specific god right? Or am I missing something?
    Classic Chaos races:

    Pure WoC: Archaon, Kholek, Sigvald, Horstman, Festus, Arbaal

    Pure DoC: Be'Lakor, Skarbrand, Kairos, Ku'Gath, N'Kari

    Pure BM: Khazrak, Malagor, Morghur, Taurox, Ghorros

    Norsca: Wulfrik, Throgg, Sayl, Crom


    Monogod Races:

    Khorne: Valkia, Skulltaker, Egil Strybjorn

    Nurgle: Tamurkhan, Epidemius, Glottkin

    Tzeentch: Villitch, Galrauch, Blue Scribes

    Slaanesh: Dechala, Azazel, The Masque, Styrkaar
    Why not a fluid version, where you can decide for lorewise dedicated LLs to choose between undivided and monogod.

    Sigvald should have the option to go full slaaanesh mono, once they have implemented enough units and the option for Hordes of Chaos.
  • _Mad_D0c__Mad_D0c_ Registered Users Posts: 1,400

    ArneSo said:



    The problem here is that we need a pure WoC and a pure DoC race next to the Monogod races.

    Like @Goatforce perfectly said, the best way to handle that is:

    - WoC
    - DoC
    - BM
    - Khorne
    - Tzeentch
    - Nurgle
    - Slaanesh

    So those first two would be Undivided headed by Archaon and Be'lakor with access to both monogod and undivided and then specific monogod factions with both Daemons and Warriors units of the specific god right? Or am I missing something?
    The Tamurkhan expansion from 8th Ed. allows to play as Hordes of Chaos (HoC) which are dedicated to one god with stuff from BM, DoC and WoC. Even undivided was possible but for the videogame its better to cut undivided HoC, even BM god aligned units are not necessary for HoC here.

    So you should have the option imo to decide with every not undivided character to go full monogod once there are DLC which introduce this option and units. Hopefully backwards too for Sigvald and all god aligned LLs of game 3 core.

    Core game should introduce only DoC undivided, with hopefully 4 to 5 LLs .
  • brago90brago90 Registered Users Posts: 551
    Am I the only one who thinks Kurgan have a lot of potential as an independent faction? A faction of mortals much more focused on mutants and rare chaotic monsters.
  • CrossilCrossil Registered Users Posts: 8,674

    Red_Dox said:



    But, for Daemons of Chaos specifically, it would be more wise to have at least 1 Greater Daemon (so probably Kairos) and then one minor daemon (herald). That is the way it is in the Armbyook anyway.

    Khorne: Skarbrand + Skulltaker
    Nurgle: Ku'gath + Epidemius
    Slaanesh: Nobody + Masque [but we can all agree that N'kari will take the rightful role here as Keeper of Secrets]
    Tzeentch: Kairos + Blue Scribes.

    So while a bit weird as a LL choice
    they can work here. And their search for magic might be a better gameplay mechanic then whatever could be cooked up for the Changeling.

    Of course we can also just get a generic Herald

    who then does an "Alberic/Direfin" by CA. But I have to say, instead of a Pink Horror Herald on disc, I would rather go with the Blue Scribes who fulfill the same role.

    While mentioning Alberic/Direfin creation of CA chosing, they could also do something else. The AoS Silver Tower for example offers this guy

    https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gaunt_Summoner
    who could be used as a template for a self created Daemon Herald. At least that way we would have something different looking for still basically the same job the Pink Horror Herald or the Blue Scribes on their discs would do.

    ------Red Dox

    What is the source for Amon'Chakai? Genuinely curious.
    5th edition.

    UNLEASH THE EVERCHARIOT

  • ArneSoArneSo Registered Users Posts: 13,065
    _Mad_D0c_ said:

    ArneSo said:



    The problem here is that we need a pure WoC and a pure DoC race next to the Monogod races.

    Like @Goatforce perfectly said, the best way to handle that is:

    - WoC
    - DoC
    - BM
    - Khorne
    - Tzeentch
    - Nurgle
    - Slaanesh

    So those first two would be Undivided headed by Archaon and Be'lakor with access to both monogod and undivided and then specific monogod factions with both Daemons and Warriors units of the specific god right? Or am I missing something?
    The Tamurkhan expansion from 8th Ed. allows to play as Hordes of Chaos (HoC) which are dedicated to one god with stuff from BM, DoC and WoC. Even undivided was possible but for the videogame its better to cut undivided HoC, even BM god aligned units are not necessary for HoC here.

    So you should have the option imo to decide with every not undivided character to go full monogod once there are DLC which introduce this option and units. Hopefully backwards too for Sigvald and all god aligned LLs of game 3 core.

    Core game should introduce only DoC undivided, with hopefully 4 to 5 LLs .
    No, the player needs to be able to play DoC like they are in their armybook. As a pure Daemon race with all themed units, that’s the priority. Monos should only be an extra.
  • brago90brago90 Registered Users Posts: 551
    ArneSo said:

    _Mad_D0c_ said:

    ArneSo said:



    The problem here is that we need a pure WoC and a pure DoC race next to the Monogod races.

    Like @Goatforce perfectly said, the best way to handle that is:

    - WoC
    - DoC
    - BM
    - Khorne
    - Tzeentch
    - Nurgle
    - Slaanesh

    So those first two would be Undivided headed by Archaon and Be'lakor with access to both monogod and undivided and then specific monogod factions with both Daemons and Warriors units of the specific god right? Or am I missing something?
    The Tamurkhan expansion from 8th Ed. allows to play as Hordes of Chaos (HoC) which are dedicated to one god with stuff from BM, DoC and WoC. Even undivided was possible but for the videogame its better to cut undivided HoC, even BM god aligned units are not necessary for HoC here.

    So you should have the option imo to decide with every not undivided character to go full monogod once there are DLC which introduce this option and units. Hopefully backwards too for Sigvald and all god aligned LLs of game 3 core.

    Core game should introduce only DoC undivided, with hopefully 4 to 5 LLs .
    No, the player needs to be able to play DoC like they are in their armybook. As a pure Daemon race with all themed units, that’s the priority. Monos should only be an extra.
    The guy is telling you that monogods will be a DLC but that it should affect the characters already present to give the option to all the characters (from WoC and DoC) associated with a particular god to choose between being undivided or divided.
  • YakintonYakinton Registered Users Posts: 343

    My own personal setup:

    5 seperate factions: Undivided and seperate God Hordes, 4 lords each

    Undivided - Archaon, Kholek, Be'lakor, (Galrauch or Vardek Crom(Galrauch for "Daemon" companion to Be'lakor, otherwise Crom LH to Archaon))

    Khorne - Skarbrand, Karanak, Valkia and Scyla Anfingrimm + Skarr Bloodwrath (LH)

    Tzeentch - Kairos, Blue Scribes, Egrimm van Horstmann and Vilitch + Aekold Helbrass (LH)

    Nurgle - Ku'gath, Epidemius, Tamurkhan and Festus + Gutrot Spume (LH)

    Slaanesh - N'kari, Masque, Sigvald and Dechala or Azazel (one of them being LH)

    Bold characters in case of only 2 lords per god

    (Norsca - Wulfrik, Throgg, Egil Styrbjorn and Sayl)

    That's a very good list, perfect LLs for each factions. I dont feel the LH are very important, if they wanna add them cool, but dont care much
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