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ThePhoenixKingThePhoenixKing Registered Users Posts: 47
edited September 2020 in Balancing Discussions
Really short: It's impossible to make an army with Tyrion/Eltharion that can deal with everything against Lizardmen for example.

If you have a build with one of those Lords then show it but i bet you won't find one.

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  • ShiroAmakusa75ShiroAmakusa75 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 33,853
    What are you talking about? SP? MP? What LM builds? What are your problems specifically?
  • ThePhoenixKingThePhoenixKing Registered Users Posts: 47
    There is no army with Tyrion that can kill every LM army. I'm talking about Multiplayer of course.
  • Lotus_MoonLotus_Moon Registered Users Posts: 11,525
    Tyrion is actually one of better lord picks vs LZM and TK, ofcourse not top pick there but its definetly not a handicap.

    Though i dont understand what your point is? Im sure i can make a Tyrion army and it be competative, Eutherium much less so, though ofcourse you can compete with him aswell he does however feel a bit UP.

    Your post though seems more like a rant than a balance post.
  • Lotus_MoonLotus_Moon Registered Users Posts: 11,525

    There is no army with Tyrion that can kill every LM army. I'm talking about Multiplayer of course.

    Good if there was it be super OP and broken match up, seems working as intended.
  • Theo91Theo91 Registered Users Posts: 2,336
    This for me is the double edged sword of asymmetric balancing. You can pick an army that just can't compete with the enemy and will almost certainly lose unless you're significantly more skilled than the opponent but to be honest, this is what makes Warhammer fun and interesting for me. I love how different army builds are and how different factions have different strengths and weaknesses.
  • Lotus_MoonLotus_Moon Registered Users Posts: 11,525
    Green0 said:

    Really short: It's impossible to make an army with Tyrion/Eltharion that can deal with everything against Lizardmen for example.

    If you have a build with one of those Lords then show it but i bet you won't find one.

    just like it's impossible to build a good army with Karl Franz on his Griphon vs Vampire Coast... almost like different lords serve different purposes and not every lord is good in every matchup...

    Vs Lizardmen I advise to try Imrik on his Dragon, Teclis on horse or Alarielle.
    Have to say i was expecting “coz they suck...something something” when i seen you replied but actually your response is spot on 100% though im sure we all can agree Eutherium is bit UP lord at least on his strom wing pet.
  • ThePhoenixKingThePhoenixKing Registered Users Posts: 47



    Though i dont understand what your point is? Im sure i can make a Tyrion army and it be competative,

    Well, post a sreenshot with that army then.

    Green0 said:

    Really short: It's impossible to make an army with Tyrion/Eltharion that can deal with everything against Lizardmen for example.

    If you have a build with one of those Lords then show it but i bet you won't find one.

    just like it's impossible to build a good army with Karl Franz on his Griphon vs Vampire Coast... almost like different lords serve different purposes and not every lord is good in every matchup...

    Vs Lizardmen I advise to try Imrik on his Dragon, Teclis on horse or Alarielle.
    Why would you take Tyrion if you have Teclis or Allarielle. He's never a good pick.

  • Noob_for_LifeNoob_for_Life Registered Users Posts: 511

    Really short: It's impossible to make an army with Tyrion/Eltharion that can deal with everything against Lizardmen for example.

    If you have a build with one of those Lords then show it but i bet you won't find one.

    Git gud
  • Lotus_MoonLotus_Moon Registered Users Posts: 11,525



    Though i dont understand what your point is? Im sure i can make a Tyrion army and it be competative,

    Well, post a sreenshot with that army then.

    Green0 said:

    Really short: It's impossible to make an army with Tyrion/Eltharion that can deal with everything against Lizardmen for example.

    If you have a build with one of those Lords then show it but i bet you won't find one.

    just like it's impossible to build a good army with Karl Franz on his Griphon vs Vampire Coast... almost like different lords serve different purposes and not every lord is good in every matchup...

    Vs Lizardmen I advise to try Imrik on his Dragon, Teclis on horse or Alarielle.
    Why would you take Tyrion if you have Teclis or Allarielle. He's never a good pick.

    Can play you if u want, i dont really need to post screenshots to show you hows its doen since not sure if you could do it, we can play it soemtime and you can see how its done.
  • mightygloinmightygloin Karaz-a-KarakRegistered Users Posts: 4,984
    High Elves - where is the love? <3
  • TexacoV2TexacoV2 Registered Users Posts: 536
    Then don't bring those lords? I don't quite see the issue?
  • CirdanCirdan Registered Users Posts: 806
    Tyrion + metalcaster with regular archers/LSG can be quite cool as well.

    As for Eltharion, he is simply too expensive for what he bring overall.
  • PocmanPocman Registered Users Posts: 4,826

    Really short: It's impossible to make an army with Tyrion/Eltharion that can deal with everything against Lizardmen for example.

    If you have a build with one of those Lords then show it but i bet you won't find one.

    As intended.
  • SarmatiannsSarmatianns Registered Users Posts: 4,647
    You can also go with Metal archmage on eagle, White Lions, Silvering, Spearmen, LSG, Archers, Silver Helms and RoR War Lions.

    That is a build that can generally deal with most of the stuff lizards can throw at you.
  • SarmatiannsSarmatianns Registered Users Posts: 4,647
    I imagine HE fans slowly moving around in a group, like zombies, but instead of going "... brains...", they're saying "... buffs..."
  • WazabazabaWazabazaba Registered Users Posts: 140

    I imagine HE fans slowly moving around in a group, like zombies, but instead of going "... brains...", they're saying "... buffs..."

    Eh, no worse than stunties always stroking out about not having enough auto-wins.
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  • Disposable HeroDisposable Hero Registered Users Posts: 6,861
    dge1 said:


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  • mightygloinmightygloin Karaz-a-KarakRegistered Users Posts: 4,984

    dge1 said:


    1.2a Please do not practice negative behaviour: personal attacks/bashing/baiting/spamming, etc.
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    2.1 You will not use this forum to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate...//

    So without posting any name, how on earth is a certain someone still not perma-banned? This is a very accurate description of what he does every single day on these forums, including fake tests, polarising users, creating fake memes and taunting reactions.
    Because closing the thread is what accounts for permaban here. A serious punishment surely. Also there are more than one certain someones here fitting that description.
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