The ogres of Dogs of War

PraiseSigmaw · January 16

If the DoW are in game III, how would CA implement the Ogre units in the faction?

I think they would implement a building for recruiting Mercenary Ogres with different tiers:

Tier 1: Mercenary Ogres (reskinned Orc Big'Uns like in Lost Faction or reskinned Ogre Bulls from the OK faction?)

Tier 2: Mercenary Ogres with great weapons.

Tier 3: Ogre Maneaters (pirate ogre with hand weapon and pistol + ninja ogre with poisoned attacks).

Mattock · January 16

If DoW is a game 3 race then I'll see them getting ogre manatees and that's it as a base unit. If they're a preorder then I dont think theyll get any from the start but might get meaneaters when game 3 releases

Vanilla_Gorilla · January 16

Easy. Give them a single unit of Maneaters.

They don't need any of the variants or any other Ogres.

Maelas · January 16

Vanilla_Gorilla said:
Easy. Give them a single unit of Maneaters.

They don't need any of the variants or any other Ogres.

I think they need to have both basic mercenary ogres and a maneater RoR, as they had on TT. Ogres are THE mercenary race, they shouldn't be too rare in your army.

PraiseSigmaw · January 16

Mattock said:
If DoW is a game 3 race then I'll see them getting ogre manatees and that's it as a base unit. If they're a preorder then I dont think theyll get any from the start but might get meaneaters when game 3 releases

It will be all ogre when TWW III comes out.

MythrilSoul · January 16

depends on how many the OK end up getting, if they get 4 types of maneaters i, personally, want the DoW to get all of them too. ~~maneaters are mercenary ogres after all anyone could hire them.~~

the 3 kingdoms bandits factions have this nifty mechanic that their tech-tree can unlock units from other rosters, i want the DoW to get something like that so you can get units like maneaters, brettonian free lances, hobgoblin wolf raiders, dwarf shieldbreakers and etc.

vg45 · January 16

DoW get Paymaster Hero, Ogre Maneater Pirates and Ogre Maneater Ninjas RoR with stalk.

OK get Bruiser Hero, Ogre Maneater Pirates and Ogre Maneater Crossdresser RoR with stalk.

PraiseSigmaw · January 17

vg45 said:
DoW get Paymaster Hero, Ogre Maneater Pirates and Ogre Maneater Ninjas RoR with stalk.

OK get Bruiser Hero, Ogre Maneater Pirates and Ogre Maneater Crossdresser RoR with stalk.

DoW get Hireling Wizard hero. OK get Butcher and Firebelly heroes.

Vanilla_Gorilla · January 17

@VG45 Don't lower the discussion with that term.

Maelas said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:
Easy. Give them a single unit of Maneaters.

They don't need any of the variants or any other Ogres.
I think they need to have both basic mercenary ogres and a maneater RoR, as they had on TT. Ogres are THE mercenary race, they shouldn't be too rare in your army.

I'm fine with the 1 maneater unit getting an RoR.

Vanilla_Gorilla · January 17

What you've got to remember is that Maneaters will play 3-4 roles at least within the Ogre army. Keeping them special and relatively unique to Ogres is more important than giving DoW multiple variants of them. DoW has essentially endless scope for expansion, OK not so much. So they really should be just the single unit for DoW.

AxiosXiphos · January 17

Vanilla_Gorilla said:
What you've got to remember is that Maneaters will play 3-4 roles at least within the Ogre army. Keeping them special and relatively unique to Ogres is more important than giving DoW multiple variants of them. DoW has essentially endless scope for expansion, OK not so much. So they really should be just the single unit for DoW.

I agree. Maneaters are multiple elite options which the ogres sorely lack. It will be interesting to see what they do with them.

Yakinton · January 17

Yes on only one units of maneaters + one RoR version. WoC should also get one unit of chaos ogres + a RoR

All other ogre needs to stay on the kingdom

eomat · January 17

I hope the Empire get to be able to recruit perhaps 3 max Imperial Ogres similar in look to Mordheim.

PraiseSigmaw · January 17

eomat said:
I hope the Empire get to be able to recruit perhaps 3 max Imperial Ogres similar in look to Mordheim.

GW removed ogres from the empire roster after 4th-5th edition for a good reason.

PraiseSigmaw · January 17

Yakinton said:
Yes on only one units of maneaters + one RoR version. WoC should also get one unit of chaos ogres + a RoR

All other ogre needs to stay on the kingdom

The RoR should be called Urblad Rotgut's Maneaters.

PraiseSigmaw · January 17

AxiosXiphos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:
What you've got to remember is that Maneaters will play 3-4 roles at least within the Ogre army. Keeping them special and relatively unique to Ogres is more important than giving DoW multiple variants of them. DoW has essentially endless scope for expansion, OK not so much. So they really should be just the single unit for DoW.
I agree. Maneaters are multiple elite options which the ogres sorely lack. It will be interesting to see what they do with them.

I think the Maneaters should be split in the following units:

Maneater Pirates: hand weapon + pistol

Maneater Ninjas: Stalk + poisoned attacks

Maneater Snipers: Double pistols or a rifle

Maneater Gladiator: Great weapon + armor

Maneater Captain: Hero unit

endur · January 17

PraiseSigmaw said:

eomat said:
I hope the Empire get to be able to recruit perhaps 3 max Imperial Ogres similar in look to Mordheim.
GW removed ogres from the empire roster after 4th-5th edition for a good reason.

Yes, but some of us have 4th edition Empire Ogre units for the table top. It would be fine if there is an option for Empire to hire Ogre mercenaries, either through DoW or OK, they don't need to have a specific unit if there is a mercenary option.

Nihtantuel · January 17

If DOW are implemented, I'd imagine it would be of those not being really DOW, but Southern realms with a bunch of mechanics of unlocking DOW lords who have horde mechanic attached and are only able to recruit their own units.

So you do a bunch of quests and unlock a new lord in the process.

So if you do a quest chain for Golgfag, you get him as a horde army. He can build his 'horde'/company by building stuff for his horde and winning battles. ANd he will be locked to only ogre units.

Same for Mengil Manhide, only with Dark Elves. He can actually start as a Black Ark captain (he was one after all, eventhough he wrecked it) and only have access to a bunch of Dark Elf units.

Same with Asarnil the Dragonlord, with High Elf Units.

And etc.

So basically the point of the Southern Realms/DOW is not to have every single thing recruitable. It is about creating a basic roster with Borgio/Lucrezia/Lorenzo/Marco Colombo with a basic Southern Realms themed roster. ANd then a bunch quests depending on geographical locations and your relations with other fractions to unlock the horde armies/companies of DOW. Like the ones mentioned above. To me that would be a proper way to implement them in game, instead of basically having access to every race's building from the start and being able to recruit any unit with any lord. That would be dumb as a stump.

CaesarSahlertz · January 18

Maneaters are literally the Ogres taht go about travelling the world and selling their services as mercenaries, so this is a pretty easy question to answer.

The question is whether or not Maneaters will be a single type unit or if they are going to have variants of Maneaters.

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