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  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    edited June 1
    We broke 600! Thanks to everyone whose read, signed, and shared so far. Keep it up! If you're on the fence then give it another read and maybe head on over Red Rover. Thanks
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    Also special thanks to Melkor for signing and sharing this petition in a video: If we were in game then this would be the equivalence of a Zhao Yun savior of the nation event.
  • ScyvhScyvh Registered Users Posts: 85
    In case you missed it, EightCitizens's petition has reached the hallmark of 500 signatures:

    http://chng.it/wvn9QBsN
    Please sign & share the petition to save Three Kingdoms
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    Scyvh said:

    In case you missed it, EightCitizens's petition has reached the hallmark of 500 signatures:

    http://chng.it/wvn9QBsN

    We've now broken 700. Who knows maybe 1000 is next?
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    750! Keep it up everyone! Thank you.
  • ArminageShikobaArminageShikoba Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 228
    The fact you joined to just post a petition is jokes. I fully support this, and really hope CA issue an apology or something to those fans who gave a lot to this game, and still love and play it hoping for future content. Me included, though I have stopped playing for a while now, cause my old saves don't work every patch, which I find annoying to say the least. But yea hope this wins and I commend you for creating this.
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83

    The fact you joined to just post a petition is jokes. I fully support this, and really hope CA issue an apology or something to those fans who gave a lot to this game, and still love and play it hoping for future content. Me included, though I have stopped playing for a while now, cause my old saves don't work every patch, which I find annoying to say the least. But yea hope this wins and I commend you for creating this.

    Thank you. Yeah I'm usually a pretty quite and reserved person. Trying to do all this outreach has been a challenge for me.
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    https://www.change.org/p/sega-creative-assembly-should-continue-some-limited-patch-support-for-total-war-three-kingdoms/u/29151355 Here's an important update for anyone following this or on the fence about signing. We are not alone!
  • ScyvhScyvh Registered Users Posts: 85
    Congrats on having established contact with our compatriots! I'm sure that if there's any chance of success with this it's because of a strong international coalition.
    Please sign & share the petition to save Three Kingdoms
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    edited June 3
    Scyvh said:

    Congrats on having established contact with our compatriots! I'm sure that if there's any chance of success with this it's because of a strong international coalition.

    I guess It turns out doing model united nations actually did end up helping me in life. (I was Malaysia at conference 1 and Togo at conference 2)
  • ComradCommodoreComradCommodore Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 918
    901 signatures

    Congrats , keep it up
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    I just wanted to leave a small update here. When spreading this petition around it's been met with the obvious critique of "petitions don't matter!" To those people I would say that we have more of an impact than you think. I actually have some analytics for the change .org petition and so far it has been viewed by around 40,000 people. Even if those 40,000 don't particularly care about 3k, how might they feel about purchasing future CA/SEGA products when support for them could be cut at anytime?
    So I would again ask anyone on the fence about signing to please reconsider. We are making an impact and every signature helps us make a bigger one.
    Thank you all.
  • ScyvhScyvh Registered Users Posts: 85
    It's a great accomplishment. I already thought getting 200 strangers to sign a doomed petition was unlikely, let alone 500. Combine that with the Chinese petition's almost 2000, and it's looking very impressive. I'd imagine actual invested player numbers are much higher.

    At the very least, this illustrates the weirdness of the business decision. Let's say only 900 of the people that signed the petition would continue to buy the next DLCs, that would still create enough revenue to keep 1 or 2 staff members on the project (and I imagine DLC numbers are higher).

    Thanks so much for this EighthCitizen, it's really appreciated. Even if the higher ups choose to do nothing with this, you've succeeded in vindicating our own feelings about this decision.
    Please sign & share the petition to save Three Kingdoms
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    Scyvh said:

    It's a great accomplishment. I already thought getting 200 strangers to sign a doomed petition was unlikely, let alone 500. Combine that with the Chinese petition's almost 2000, and it's looking very impressive. I'd imagine actual invested player numbers are much higher.

    At the very least, this illustrates the weirdness of the business decision. Let's say only 900 of the people that signed the petition would continue to buy the next DLCs, that would still create enough revenue to keep 1 or 2 staff members on the project (and I imagine DLC numbers are higher).

    Thanks so much for this EighthCitizen, it's really appreciated. Even if the higher ups choose to do nothing with this, you've succeeded in vindicating our own feelings about this decision.

    Thank you. While there have been haters the support received by total strangers was worth it. Looking forward to joining it with the Chinese petition and seeing how much that one has grown.
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    The petitions were sent to the heads of CA and SEGA at 8:30 AM (GMT). Together they had 3000 signatures. Now if we get a response is in the hands of SEGA/CA. Let's hope it's enough to at least be acknowledged. Regardless, thank you to everyone here who read, signed, and shared the petition. Part of my hope with this petition was to show that these are more than just entertainment products and mean more to us than that. You all helped show that. From the bottom of my heart thank you all.

    best,
  • ScyvhScyvh Registered Users Posts: 85
    Congrats :)
    Please sign & share the petition to save Three Kingdoms
  • DjauDjau Registered Users Posts: 8,525
    Scyvh said:

    It's a great accomplishment. I already thought getting 200 strangers to sign a doomed petition was unlikely, let alone 500. Combine that with the Chinese petition's almost 2000, and it's looking very impressive. I'd imagine actual invested player numbers are much higher.

    At the very least, this illustrates the weirdness of the business decision. Let's say only 900 of the people that signed the petition would continue to buy the next DLCs, that would still create enough revenue to keep 1 or 2 staff members on the project (and I imagine DLC numbers are higher).

    Thanks so much for this EighthCitizen, it's really appreciated. Even if the higher ups choose to do nothing with this, you've succeeded in vindicating our own feelings about this decision.

    How'd you do all the art assets, programming, QA, etc with 1 or 2 staff members?
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  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    Considering it's been about a week since we sent the petition and we haven't heard anything back I can only assume that's CA/SEGA's way of telling us to pound sand. It speaks volumes to a companies customer service when 3000 collective customers can't get so much as a hello. I still hope they'll keep seeing the backlash and reconsider, but again hope is not high.
    All we can do is keep making noise I guess. Keep bug reporting. Also while the "official" petition was sent on the 6th, this petition: http://chng.it/wvn9QBsN is still technically open if you missed out the first time and want to keep adding your names to it. It probably won't help, but it can't hurt and it keeps helping to show CA we are still upset. There's nothing to lose at this point.
    Beyond that I don't know what to do except ask St. Jude for help.
  • ScyvhScyvh Registered Users Posts: 85
    I suppose they (whoever's in charge) will have read it and are aware of it, but the general decision seems to be to remain silent on it, perhaps in the hope the (small) storm will pass. How's the communication going with the other petitioners?

    The petition's still being signed and discontent remains growing. So far, you have shared it with TW fans and creators on YouTube, right? I think it might be worth sending out your petition (and the news of its success, the international coalition you have built) to the game websites. They can't report on what they're unaware of, after all.
    Please sign & share the petition to save Three Kingdoms
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    Scyvh said:

    I suppose they (whoever's in charge) will have read it and are aware of it, but the general decision seems to be to remain silent on it, perhaps in the hope the (small) storm will pass. How's the communication going with the other petitioners?

    The petition's still being signed and discontent remains growing. So far, you have shared it with TW fans and creators on YouTube, right? I think it might be worth sending out your petition (and the news of its success, the international coalition you have built) to the game websites. They can't report on what they're unaware of, after all.

    I created and sent a press release along to most major gaming publications and journalists. No one appears interested in reporting on it. It's not great timing with E3 and writing about review bombing brings far more eyes than petitions unfortunately.
  • ScyvhScyvh Registered Users Posts: 85
    It's still gaining traction: and there was an acknowledgment on discord, wasn't there?
    Please sign & share the petition to save Three Kingdoms
  • Vin362Vin362 Registered Users Posts: 1,364
    edited June 23
    They mentioned the petition and said the answer is no
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  • TheTrueLordAndyTheTrueLordAndy Registered Users Posts: 784
    edited June 23
    Vin362 said:

    They mentioned the petition and said the answer is no

    Not surprising corporate executives never take a step back to change directions.
  • RewanRewan Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 4,696
    That "no" was about posting the petition on Discord tho. (I mean kinda obviously it would be no, they were already pretty generous to let it on the forums - all things considered.)


    At this point CA is very unlikely to say anything (because again, I'm not sure what people would want them to say without doing more damage), they will either release a (much needed) patch to smooth up the issues still in the game or they won't and will have their full focus on the next 3K game (whetever it turns out to be)
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  • LESAMALESAMA Member Registered Users Posts: 2,148
    The next 3k will have a very hard time after the fiasco that 3k has become the last months.
  • BeardedragonBeardedragon Member Registered Users Posts: 1,520
    if anything changes it wont be because of a petition.
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    Vin362 said:

    They mentioned the petition and said the answer is no

    Yes, that exchange was in regards to posting it in the official discord which was not allowed. We have not actually heard anything back or "official" about the petition that we sent in on the 6th.

    We do know they know about it and have received it. So any silence going forward is willing and or strategic on CA's part.
  • ScyvhScyvh Registered Users Posts: 85
    Shrugs. It's still gaining some signatures. It's up to them if they want to engage with it or not.
    Please sign & share the petition to save Three Kingdoms
  • EighthCitizenEighthCitizen Registered Users Posts: 83
    https://www.change.org/p/sega-creative-assembly-should-continue-some-limited-patch-support-for-total-war-three-kingdoms/u/29355959

    I left an update on the petition. It appears at this point the CA/SEGA response to all of this is to keep silent. In my book the silent treatment is the equivalent of telling us all to pound sand. Not sure where to go from here, but the petition will remain up until the release of '3k:Reforged" or whatever they chose to call the future title. Till then, all the best.
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