Artillery Kislev.

Baron_Robbane · June 2021

1 artillery piece. I know its a new faction but where are the organ guns and cannons seen in their last army book? Just fyi im in love with 95 procent of the roster just expected a simple artillery piece along side little grom.
And Katharina lacking a sleigh.

SakuraHeinz · June 2021

Ice elves dont need artillery.

UberReptilian · June 2021

Alongside Boris' corpse I'd imagine.

Steph_F_David · June 2021

They have to keep a few things for futur DLC.

ArneSo · June 2021

More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!

saweendra · June 2021

Baron_Robbane said:
1 artillery piece. I know its a new faction but where are the organ guns and cannons seen in their last army book?

They didn't have army book

Baron_Robbane · June 2021

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!

But a cannon and organ reskin feels like a bad dlc.

UberReptilian · June 2021

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!

Never heard the prospect of having to pay extra for something as "awesome" but that's me.

MarcusLivius · June 2021

Baron_Robbane said:

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!
But a cannon and organ reskin feels like a bad dlc.

Well, I don't know, what if there were other things in the DLC too?

ArneSo · June 2021

Baron_Robbane said:

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!
But a cannon and organ reskin feels like a bad dlc.

Well who says it will be a reskin?

saweendra · June 2021

Baron_Robbane said:

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!
But a cannon and organ reskin feels like a bad dlc.

They might get one of them but if they get arty it will most likely be a new addition from GW

oliverpmason · June 2021

Bolt thrower was the only Dwarf dlc.

Helhound · June 2021

What army book? You mean their 2004 army supplement? That never got touched afterwards? They probably ended up in the same 20 year old graveyard.

Having said that wouldn't doubt if at somepoint in time we see a big grom to go along with little grom. Super sized much less mobile cannons to fill that gap.

Pr4vda · June 2021

Helhound said:
What army book? You mean their 2004 army supplement? That never got touched afterwards? They probably ended up in the same 20 year old graveyard.

Having said that wouldn't doubt if at somepoint in time we see a big grom to go along with little grom. Super sized much less mobile cannons to fill that gap.

I would prefer a light artillery, tracted by horses. Like in Napoleon TW. It would fit Kislev playstyle ten times better.

But we shall see in a few years lol

ArneSo · June 2021

Pr4vda said:

Helhound said:
What army book? You mean their 2004 army supplement? That never got touched afterwards? They probably ended up in the same 20 year old graveyard.

Having said that wouldn't doubt if at somepoint in time we see a big grom to go along with little grom. Super sized much less mobile cannons to fill that gap.
I would prefer a light artillery, tracted by horses. Like in Napoleon TW. It would fit Kislev playstyle ten times better.

But we shall see in a few years lol

Would be fitting for an Erengrad themed LP.

Blaced · June 2021

Pr4vda said:

Helhound said:
What army book? You mean their 2004 army supplement? That never got touched afterwards? They probably ended up in the same 20 year old graveyard.

Having said that wouldn't doubt if at somepoint in time we see a big grom to go along with little grom. Super sized much less mobile cannons to fill that gap.
I would prefer a light artillery, tracted by horses. Like in Napoleon TW. It would fit Kislev playstyle ten times better.

But we shall see in a few years lol

You mean Galloper Gun

Forumaccountkroqgar · June 2021

Hopefully nowhere. All the other kislev units allow for a great control of the battlefield through mobility, spells, skirmishing and effects like frostbite. No flying units and limited artillery seems good design to me.

arthadaw · June 2021

They did have Orugan cannons on the lore, I'd expect them to come in a dlc then

55JoNNo · June 2021

I doubt they will get more power in the artillery department - seems an intentional departure to preserve one of the strengths of the Empire

Kebab_man · June 2021

they will get more artillery via dlc I'm sure, however for the playstyle they want to set of a highly mobile force with a hybrid infantry core is well suited to later have a more desire build to come in later, I'm happy with the roster, while it's not giant, khorne has a very big roster already and there's reason to believe the other monogods will to, so a smaller roster isn't a big deal so long as cathay isn't particularly small

Nyumus · June 2021

Having some Culverin Cannons dragged by horses (high mobility, singles target/cavalete killer) or organ Guns (anto infsntry one) would bê nice, with Little Heim being something similar to the VCoast unique cannon, since the lore of It suggests that only a few were left.

damon40000 · June 2021

kislev is mobile roster so even its arty is mobile

Naygir_Killaz · June 2021

damon40000 said:
kislev is mobile roster so even its arty is mobile

Then maybe give us a horse drawn cannon that's lower tier? Why must the only artillery available in Kislev be a magic ice cannon?

If you're going to mention redundancy and unit bloat, then let me show you the skaven, high elf and lizardman roster.

makar55 · June 2021

Baron_Robbane said:

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!
But a cannon and organ reskin feels like a bad dlc.

It worked for VCoast and will work again for Kislev DLC.

Xenos7777 · June 2021

indeed, this is probably the weirdest thing. Artillery doesn't even need expensive models or animations.

Djau · June 2021

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!

The lore blurb for the Little Grom said they had 12 cannons, but lost most of them.

Xenos7777 · June 2021

UberReptilian said:

ArneSo said:
More stuff for DLC! It’s awesome!
Never heard the prospect of having to pay extra for something as "awesome" but that's me.

It's not even the money, we are not sure if we'll get those DLC. Maybe WH3 flops and support gets cut short. So we're left with half a roster...

Xenos7777 · June 2021

yukontherun said:
Hopefully nowhere. All the other kislev units allow for a great control of the battlefield through mobility, spells, skirmishing and effects like frostbite. No flying units and limited artillery seems good design to me.

Artillery is kinda of a russian meme. Even now they have the strongest self-propelled guns in the world.

Aethelstan · June 2021

A normal artillery piece would make little grom feel more special in comparison. But with the explanation CA gave for the lack of artillery I think they’ve written themselves into a corner somewhat.

ArneSo · June 2021

yukontherun said:
Hopefully nowhere. All the other kislev units allow for a great control of the battlefield through mobility, spells, skirmishing and effects like frostbite. No flying units and limited artillery seems good design to me.

Very good point. Static artillery doesn’t really fit into the Kislev roster and would feel out of a place.

I‘m surprised that we didn’t get War Sleds with Mortars tho.

brago90 · June 2021

I suppose they have chosen to remove most of the artillery to differentiate Kislev from the Empire.

They have chosen to turn Kislev into an army focused on adaptability and traditional artillery is not very adaptable, so they only have one piece of artillery which has much more mobility than artillery usually has because it is positioned on a sled pulled by Bears.

Anyway you don't need a lot of artillery options you just need one good option.

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