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  • ReeksReeks Registered Users Posts: 7,389
    Well, you could delay it a year more for all i care, one thing is certain, i won´t buy your products until they are darn well done, i refuse to pay for half-baked content.

    You will get my money when the level of polish is at a bearable state, not one second earlier

    So if your delay means a polished release, delay away


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  • ItharusItharus Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 13,559

    I am ok with a delay, but by Sigmar if this game is not in a VERY highly polished state with minimal bugs then CA will feel this community's wrath.

    No they won't.

    They've done that to us many times now and faced no repercussions for it.

    What incentive is there to try harder now?
  • KronusXKronusX Registered Users Posts: 2,041
    edited September 14
    Itharus said:

    I am ok with a delay, but by Sigmar if this game is not in a VERY highly polished state with minimal bugs then CA will feel this community's wrath.

    No they won't.

    They've done that to us many times now and faced no repercussions for it.

    What incentive is there to try harder now?
    I never understood the blind faith some people have in companies. They don't seem to understand that companies are not your friends, they are trying to squeeze money out of you.
    Post edited by Grom_the_Paunch on
  • Fingolfin_the-GoldenFingolfin_the-Golden Registered Users Posts: 2,058
    edited September 14
    KronusX said:

    Itharus said:

    I am ok with a delay, but by Sigmar if this game is not in a VERY highly polished state with minimal bugs then CA will feel this community's wrath.

    No they won't.

    They've done that to us many times now and faced no repercussions for it.

    What incentive is there to try harder now?
    I never understood the blind faith some people have in companies. They don't seem to understand that companies are not your friends, they are trying to squeeze money out of you.
    I’ve never understood the support or anger people have towards any companies.
    I just buy products I like, I don’t care who made them.

    I would by this product (WH3) if it ran worse than my first bomb of a car from way back when.
    Post edited by Fingolfin_the-Golden on
  • capybarasiesta89capybarasiesta89 Senior Member Bath, UKRegistered Users Posts: 5,100
    Oh ****!! For real now?! Delaying stuff is trend now, change my mind.


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  • Red_DoxRed_Dox Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 5,013
    edited September 14
    Awwww. Not again :( The delay form 2020 to 2021 was already ****. The Dev-Hell rumors also did not build confidence. When Techland started showing new material this year I was slightly optimistic they actually can deliver and now that again :(

    Well, Bloodlines 2 and The Settlers are probably also not coming anymore. So similar to 2020 "Dealyed until further notice" *sigh*.

    ------Red Dox
  • AbmongAbmong Registered Users Posts: 3,162
    Any idea what time the Cathay reveal starts?
    Something tells me this comment will get a Disagree
  • MarderMarder Registered Users Posts: 26
    What kind of update is that? There is no date nothing. This is no update this is a spit in the face of any one who pre ordered and gave money to you.

    https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/58A1-CCAF-6D1D-2066#:~:text=You may refund your pre,credit to your Steam Wallet.

    THIS IS INACEPTBLE! Not only have you stole my money you also took it hostage.
    Your revel is a joke nothing more, imperium of man in different skin, you dont give any dates, you just take the money and run.

    This should be a lesson to every one ever pre ordering any of your products.
  • LordCommanderLordCommander Registered Users Posts: 2,607
    edited September 14
    Marder said:

    What kind of update is that? There is no date nothing. This is no update this is a spit in the face of any one who pre ordered and gave money to you.

    https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/58A1-CCAF-6D1D-2066#:~:text=You may refund your pre,credit to your Steam Wallet.

    THIS IS INACEPTBLE! Not only have you stole my money you also took it hostage.
    Your revel is a joke nothing more, imperium of man in different skin, you dont give any dates, you just take the money and run.

    This should be a lesson to every one ever pre ordering any of your products.

    Hahaha they stole your money, held it hostage and you post a link to the refund page?
    Just as a warning against making predictions- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/290416/time-to-admit-there-will-be-no-new-dlc-for-twwh-2#latest

    Stung by people disagreeing with you? Try calling them shills and whiteknights, it's way easier than debating.
  • MarderMarder Registered Users Posts: 26

    Marder said:

    What kind of update is that? There is no date nothing. This is no update this is a spit in the face of any one who pre ordered and gave money to you.

    https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/58A1-CCAF-6D1D-2066#:~:text=You may refund your pre,credit to your Steam Wallet.

    THIS IS INACEPTBLE! Not only have you stole my money you also took it hostage.
    Your revel is a joke nothing more, imperium of man in different skin, you dont give any dates, you just take the money and run.

    This should be a lesson to every one ever pre ordering any of your products.

    Hahaha they stole your money, held it hostage and you post a link to the refund page?
    Read the refund policy, you wont get back to your Bank account, made a fool out of my self pre ordering in good faith the second the pre order was up. So yes my money any ones money is held hostage.
  • LordCommanderLordCommander Registered Users Posts: 2,607
    Marder said:



    Read the refund policy, you wont get back to your Bank account, made a fool out of my self pre ordering in good faith the second the pre order was up. So yes my money any ones money is held hostage.

    Then rant about steam, it's their policy.
    Just as a warning against making predictions- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/290416/time-to-admit-there-will-be-no-new-dlc-for-twwh-2#latest

    Stung by people disagreeing with you? Try calling them shills and whiteknights, it's way easier than debating.
  • MarderMarder Registered Users Posts: 26
    edited September 14

    Marder said:



    Read the refund policy, you wont get back to your Bank account, made a fool out of my self pre ordering in good faith the second the pre order was up. So yes my money any ones money is held hostage.

    Then rant about steam, it's their policy.
    No as the publisher knew 100% that the game wont be ready on time and they´d and stay silent to steal money. A decision like that is not made from one second to next willy nilly.

    This one is not Steams fault this one is 100% Creative Assembly, Feral Interactive, Activision, Sega, Creative Assembly Sofia fault. Covid or no covid they dont work in mines, can work from home and most importantly the day the lockdowns happend and they could show up in office it was cleared they would never hold up to the summer date. This is done with malicious intend. Why not then post a information that hey cant get it done on time and people can get there refunds?
  • LordCommanderLordCommander Registered Users Posts: 2,607
    Marder said:



    No as the publisher knew 100% that the game wont be ready on time and they´d and stay silent to steal money. A decision like that is not made from one second to next willy nilly.

    No no no. CA did not steal your money. That would imply steam has just made a loss refunding you in credit. That's not how it works. I'm sorry you didn't read the terms and conditions, perhaps if you had it wouldn't have been such an unpleasant surprise? Again, it's steam that makes the rules, not CA. Also, they are delaying the game, not canceling it, so how would you have your money 'stolen'?

    Also, why did you pre-order the second it went up?
    Just as a warning against making predictions- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/290416/time-to-admit-there-will-be-no-new-dlc-for-twwh-2#latest

    Stung by people disagreeing with you? Try calling them shills and whiteknights, it's way easier than debating.
  • MarderMarder Registered Users Posts: 26
    edited September 14

    Marder said:



    No as the publisher knew 100% that the game wont be ready on time and they´d and stay silent to steal money. A decision like that is not made from one second to next willy nilly.

    No no no. CA did not steal your money. That would imply steam has just made a loss refunding you in credit. That's not how it works. I'm sorry you didn't read the terms and conditions, perhaps if you had it wouldn't have been such an unpleasant surprise? Again, it's steam that makes the rules, not CA. Also, they are delaying the game, not canceling it, so how would you have your money 'stolen'?

    Also, why did you pre-order the second it went up?
    Cause every one deserves a chance, Only because other company's cant keep to here word this has not to. I am wrong.
    Leadership is as inkompetent as any big company and as greedy with the worst customer treatment.

    Yes its is 100% CA fault and CA´s management fault. It was clear to them they wont keep the date and bank on staying silent. Its not Steam telling me that CA cant keep there date, its not Steam who set a date for reales, its not steam deciding when to inform every one that the dates cant be kept up. Its not the customer's fault laying trust in to a producer. Thats how trade works. I give you money in good trust so you deliver in good trust on what we have agreed upon. Other wise trade in general would not work at.
    The lesson learned is that CA is not a trustworthy trade partner that is using shady practices to lure in people.
  • LordCommanderLordCommander Registered Users Posts: 2,607
    Marder said:


    Yes its is 100% CA fault and CA´s management fault. It was clear to them they wont keep the date and bank on staying silent. Its not Steam telling me that CA cant keep there date, its not Steam who set a date for reales, its not steam deciding when to inform every one that the dates cant be kept up. Its not the customer's fault laying trust in to a producer. Thats how trade works. I give you money in good trust so you deliver in good trust on what we have agreed upon. Other wise trade in general would not work at.
    The lesson learned is that CA is not a trustworthy trade partner that is using shady practices to lure in people.

    So... are you dying? Can you not make early 2022? I mean, they didn't set an exact release date outside of this year. You just seem outraged for the sake of it. They pushed warhammer 1 back also, if you recall. And Empire total war. It's hardly anything new. Ah well, pity you won't be playing.
    Just as a warning against making predictions- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/290416/time-to-admit-there-will-be-no-new-dlc-for-twwh-2#latest

    Stung by people disagreeing with you? Try calling them shills and whiteknights, it's way easier than debating.
  • MarderMarder Registered Users Posts: 26

    Marder said:


    Yes its is 100% CA fault and CA´s management fault. It was clear to them they wont keep the date and bank on staying silent. Its not Steam telling me that CA cant keep there date, its not Steam who set a date for reales, its not steam deciding when to inform every one that the dates cant be kept up. Its not the customer's fault laying trust in to a producer. Thats how trade works. I give you money in good trust so you deliver in good trust on what we have agreed upon. Other wise trade in general would not work at.
    The lesson learned is that CA is not a trustworthy trade partner that is using shady practices to lure in people.

    So... are you dying? Can you not make early 2022? I mean, they didn't set an exact release date outside of this year. You just seem outraged for the sake of it. They pushed warhammer 1 back also, if you recall. And Empire total war. It's hardly anything new. Ah well, pity you won't be playing.
    I took days off to enjoy a promised product that was advertised and payed in full before even consumed.The das off I dont get back. I am outraged and angry because of the unethical scam. I am outraged at a customer that my money is held hostage that I would use not for a CA product is held hostage by said company because they know that this would happen.
    You seem to defend CA just for sake of it.Yes they set a time for realse, this Summer. Now Summer is over, its autumn. Now the yhave not set a date. It could be in two years or three or never. Its your problem if you dont value your money and time. I do.
    Only because you get mugged each day dont mean its ok and normal.

    If company's only care for money not for customer care and retention then outrage and monetary damage is only thing that will end this scamy behavior. A company build and operating on this has no right to exist.

    Trust, time and money.
    You may no value this cause your to young but this are the values, success is based and build upon.
    Non of CA has. They had the benefit of the doubt based upon past experiences, they blew it.
  • LordCommanderLordCommander Registered Users Posts: 2,607
    edited September 14
    Marder said:


    I took days off to enjoy a promised product that was advertised and payed in full before even consumed.The das off I dont get back. I am outraged and angry because of the unethical scam. I am outraged at a customer that my money is held hostage that I would use not for a CA product is held hostage by said company because they know that this would happen. You seem to defend CA just for sake of it.

    What days, exactly, did you take off? There wasn't a release set other than 2021. Did you choose days at random and now upset release it didn't fall exactly on those? Did you take a random season off? I think you're padding out this rant and it's getting wierder and wierder.
    Marder said:

    You may no value this cause your to young but this are the values, success is based und build upon.
    Non of CA has. They had the benefit of the doubt based upon past exitances, they blew it.

    I'm 41 and I've played PC games for 25 of those, and TW games since shogun 1. In that time I've accrued enough experiance to know that games are often delayed, and unless the company does not release said game, it is not stealing your money.

    Your inane rant needs to stop now, as it is falling apart at the seams. I don't know what your game is but knock it off. Don't blame others when you are the author of your own misfortune.
    Just as a warning against making predictions- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/290416/time-to-admit-there-will-be-no-new-dlc-for-twwh-2#latest

    Stung by people disagreeing with you? Try calling them shills and whiteknights, it's way easier than debating.
  • MarderMarder Registered Users Posts: 26

    Marder said:


    I took days off to enjoy a promised product that was advertised and payed in full before even consumed.The das off I dont get back. I am outraged and angry because of the unethical scam. I am outraged at a customer that my money is held hostage that I would use not for a CA product is held hostage by said company because they know that this would happen. You seem to defend CA just for sake of it.

    What days, exactly, did you take off? There wasn't a release set other than 2021. Did you choose days at random and now upset release it didn't fall exactly on those? Did you take a random season off? I think you're padding out this rant and it's getting wierder and wierder.
    Marder said:

    You may no value this cause your to young but this are the values, success is based und build upon.
    Non of CA has. They had the benefit of the doubt based upon past exitances, they blew it.

    I'm 41 and I've played PC games for 25 of those, and TW games since shogun 1. In that time I've accrued enough experiance to know that games are often delayed, and unless the company does not release said game, it is not stealing your money.

    Your inane rant needs to stop now, as it is falling apart at the seams. I don't know what your game is but knock it off. Don't blame others when you are the author of your own misfortune.
    Ok so for your complaining about scamy company practice is insanity and you got kickt so often so hard by CA that you got used to it and you call every one complaining about that insane. Ok.

    Strange pov but its yours. I see only you rambling insanity by defending said company and the malpractice.
    I value my time and my money you dont put any value in yours.
    We agree to disagree.
  • LordCommanderLordCommander Registered Users Posts: 2,607
    Marder said:


    Ok so for your complaining about scamy company practice is insanity and you got kickt so often so hard by CA that you got used to it and you call every one complaining about that insane. Ok.

    By CA? So you think delaying the game is 'scamy [sic]'? Why? Games are delayed all the time and not -spoiler incoming- just CA games. Seriously, have you not played many? You must be young.
    Marder said:

    Strange pov but its yours. I see only you rambling insanity by defending said company and the malpractice. I value my time and my money you dont put any value in yours.
    We agree to disagree.

    You value your time, but what time and money have you lost? Again, I ask, what days did you take off? The initial release was just stated as 2021. Surely a scammier practice would be releasing the game when it wasn't ready. Seriously, what days did you take off? Can't you change it?
    Just as a warning against making predictions- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/290416/time-to-admit-there-will-be-no-new-dlc-for-twwh-2#latest

    Stung by people disagreeing with you? Try calling them shills and whiteknights, it's way easier than debating.
  • BrynjarKBrynjarK Registered Users Posts: 826
    edited September 14
    xDEMOSx said:

    It was kind of obovious that it wouldn't come this year.
    And apparently not even trying to hide the date to prolong the development, they can no longer deliver in the year.

    but delays don't mean that the game comes out better, or more polished, this game has development problems, and what has been shown so far is very weak.

    This is also my big fear "development problems", i dont really mind lack of communication, but i fear they migth be going in some directions with the game they shouldn't. Game 1 and 2 were very diffrent from one another, and game 2 created a bigger monster/hero meta.

    But im rooting for you CA

    Ill never recover from DOW3.
  • KayosivKayosiv Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,752
    Long predictable and I don't mind either.

    Take your time, do it right.
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  • PraiseSigmawPraiseSigmaw Registered Users Posts: 2,799
    BrynjarK said:

    xDEMOSx said:

    It was kind of obovious that it wouldn't come this year.
    And apparently not even trying to hide the date to prolong the development, they can no longer deliver in the year.

    but delays don't mean that the game comes out better, or more polished, this game has development problems, and what has been shown so far is very weak.

    This is also my big fear "development problems", i dont really mind lack of communication, but i fear they migth be going in some directions with the game they shouldn't. Game 1 and 2 were very diffrent from one another, and game 2 created a bigger monster/hero meta.

    But im rooting for you CA

    Ill never recover from DOW3.
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  • capybarasiesta89capybarasiesta89 Senior Member Bath, UKRegistered Users Posts: 5,100
    This is absolute **** theatre this is honestly!!! It is delaying trend.


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  • KillertutKillertut Registered Users Posts: 459
    the sad thing about delays is that you would think it counteracts crunch time, but believe me, it makes crunch worse in most cases. my prayers go to the developers of all studios.
  • kabilkabil Registered Users Posts: 13
    Is it mean that possible to play Grand Campaign on release version?
  • KillertutKillertut Registered Users Posts: 459
    kabil said:

    Is it mean that possible to play Grand Campaign on release version?

    no
  • EltarionEltarion Registered Users Posts: 76
    it seems like we will have to wait another quarter for the game, which based on how small the delay is, means it is not a major issue just a need for more polish, or alternatively, it is a major issue that won't get fixed and we'll get a broken game that will take at least another 6 months after the delayed-release to fix if nothing else the trailers so far are awesome looking and the designs for all non-demon armies are nothing short of amazing
  • BlacksphemyBlacksphemy Registered Users Posts: 623
    Its weird how something like a pandemic and total global shutdown will delay something as simple as a multi million dollar game development.

    These companies need to change priorities back to entertaining us as soon as possible with bugfree releases ahead of schedule

    😜
  • capybarasiesta89capybarasiesta89 Senior Member Bath, UKRegistered Users Posts: 5,100

    Its weird how something like a pandemic and total global shutdown will delay something as simple as a multi million dollar game development.

    These companies need to change priorities back to entertaining us as soon as possible with bugfree releases ahead of schedule

    😜

    It would be fine if one done it, but know three major releases were pushed, we don't know initial TW WH3 release date at all or pre order bonua.

    We know release date for BF2042, Dying Light 2 and pre order bonus.
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  • DulahanDulahan Registered Users Posts: 213
    I'm baffled that people are acting like games getting delayed releases is unusual. It was the norm before the pandemic. In my decades of gaming I can barely remember games not being delayed.
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