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So Thor is a Kislev god now instead of being some Norsca champion.

Data5Data5 Registered Users Posts: 261
I think that all know that Thor is a Nordic god and not a Slavic god.

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  • JungleElfJungleElf Registered Users Posts: 5,689
  • saweendrasaweendra Registered Users Posts: 15,505
    Data5 said:

    I think that all know that Thor is a Nordic god and not a Slavic god.

    you know tor has always been kislev god its been the case in the lore for a very long time

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  • JirzikJirzik Registered Users Posts: 325
    Thor - Germanic god of thunder (with hammer)
    Perun - Slavic god of thunder (with axe)

    GW after some typical "wibbly wobbly mishup mashup" create Tor - take it or leave it.
  • hanebuchhanebuch Registered Users Posts: 75
    Tor always existed as a god that is worshipped in Kislev. He was already in the 6th edition Kislev army list and he was mentioned in the roster reveal for Kislev(one of the patriarch's ability is named after him).
  • wunderb0rwunderb0r Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 863
    thor =/= tor
    ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
  • OdTengriOdTengri Registered Users Posts: 6,729
    edited October 18
    Data5 said:

    I think that all know that Thor is a Nordic god and not a Slavic god.

    He's been a Kilsivite god for over 2 decades now, your just ignorant of the setting.
  • KN_GarsKN_Gars Registered Users Posts: 2,073
    Jirzik said:

    Thor - Germanic god of thunder (with hammer)
    Perun - Slavic god of thunder (with axe)

    GW after some typical "wibbly wobbly mishup mashup" create Tor - take it or leave it.

    When it was created Kislev back in 3rd edition had a signficiant norse population and Norsca did not worship Chaos at that time but were rather just historical vikings. Tor is a nod to this when the Kislevite faith was created in 6th edition even though the norse part of Kislev was massivly toned down.
  • 55JoNNo55JoNNo Registered Users Posts: 2,241
    Can't wait for the regiment of blonde Kislev chads wielding thunder hammers

    Bohemond for game 3 please!

  • sykallsykall Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,275
    Look one is a thunder god with a hammer, and the other is a thunder god with an axe. Totally different.

    But this is GW mixing everything as they like. The empire also contains slavic and rumanian influences, e.g. with Ostland or Sylvania.
    A deity in Ind is Gilgadresh. But Gilgamesh is a mortal king of Uruk in an sumerian epic. So neither god nor the fitting culture, but still allmost the same name.
    And the kurgan combine elements of scythians, huns, mongols and various other people.
    And elements of celtic myths show up in Albion, Bretonnia and the Wood Elves.
    (Insert many other examples)

    Thats warhammer in a nutshell.
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  • Data5Data5 Registered Users Posts: 261
  • wunderb0rwunderb0r Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 863
    Data5 said:

    JungleElf said:

    Tor.

    wunderb0r said:

    thor =/= tor

    I used the english spelling.

    Tor is actually the original Nordic spelling.
    https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor (Thor eller Tor)

    Compare this with some slavic wikis
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    I literally just *sigh*ed at your comment irl
    ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
  • CaesarSahlertzCaesarSahlertz Registered Users Posts: 6,508
    GW called the Kislevite god Tor, Tor, in reference to the real life Germanic (and later Norse) God Thor. They didn't add the god to Kislev to suggest that Kislev is in anyway Germanic and/or Norse...
  • KN_GarsKN_Gars Registered Users Posts: 2,073

    GW called the Kislevite god Tor, Tor, in reference to the real life Germanic (and later Norse) God Thor. They didn't add the god to Kislev to suggest that Kislev is in anyway Germanic and/or Norse...

    Read "Something Rotten in Kislev", the very first Kislev supplement and you will find the connection. It was not a suggestion, more of an homage to the previous lore when Realm of the Ice Queen chose that particular name.
  • OdTengriOdTengri Registered Users Posts: 6,729
    Data5 said:

    JungleElf said:

    Tor.

    wunderb0r said:

    thor =/= tor

    I used the english spelling.

    Tor is actually the original Nordic spelling.
    https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor (Thor eller Tor)

    Compare this with some slavic wikis
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
    Awesome dude you know Real Life Lore super well.

    GW Lore has had Tor as one of Kislev's Deities for a long time now.

    Your basically just complaining that you don't like something that you don't understand and your asking for it to be changed to you singular preconceived notions when the long time fans have been fine with it if not attached to it for quite a while.
  • MiniaArMiniaAr Registered Users Posts: 1,410
    Tor being a god in Kislev is common knowledge, OP you're fighting against windmills.

    I'm more interested in Salyak. Was she mentionned before?
  • sykallsykall Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,275
    MiniaAr said:

    Tor being a god in Kislev is common knowledge, OP you're fighting against windmills.

    I'm more interested in Salyak. Was she mentionned before?

    I thought she is just the kislevite version/aspect of Shallya, the goddess of mercy and healing.
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  • YrellianYrellian Registered Users Posts: 1,979
    MiniaAr said:

    Tor being a god in Kislev is common knowledge, OP you're fighting against windmills.

    I'm more interested in Salyak. Was she mentionned before?

    In the Warhammer lore? Yes, she is quite old. She is one of the lesser gods of Kislev.


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  • Mr_Finley7Mr_Finley7 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 7,010
    Always has been
  • MiniaArMiniaAr Registered Users Posts: 1,410
    thanks. I wasn't familiar with her, whereas I knew about the other three.
  • TheMadTypistTheMadTypist Registered Users Posts: 392
    I find it interesting that there are four Kislevite gods to confront four gods of Chaos.

    Salyak, god of healing and comfort- seems to have a parallel in Nurgle, of illness and numbness, though her symbol is a bird and "not saving those whose time has come" might suggest Tzeentch instead (changing destiny and all that).

    Dzah, a sun god who gave the knowledge of fire to ancient humans- Knowledge suggests Tzeentch, and Fire has parallels in Tzeentch's use of Flamer demons, but Fire could also be a reflection of restriction from Slaanesh's excess (some fire provides heat, but too much fire burns out of control).

    Tor seems to reflect Khorne- mighty warrior, cracks the sky, patron of warriors himself, etc.

    Ursun could be Khorne - Ursun's protector vs Khorne's warrior, or maybe slaanesh? (So many Bears. Almost an obsession of protection?).

    I'm kinda grasping at straws but I liked the idea that Elven gods were ordered mimics of Chaos, and seeing that in human ones too could be cool. Like, the imprint of chaotic gods on the realm of souls is such that mortals naturally adhere to their forms when shaping their own gods.
  • memedaddy11memedaddy11 Registered Users Posts: 7
    Yrellian said:

    MiniaAr said:

    Tor being a god in Kislev is common knowledge, OP you're fighting against windmills.

    I'm more interested in Salyak. Was she mentionned before?

    In the Warhammer lore? Yes, she is quite old. She is one of the lesser gods of Kislev.

    "the Kislevite God of healing and comfort and bears"

  • MurmurlockMurmurlock Registered Users Posts: 898

    I find it interesting that there are four Kislevite gods to confront four gods of Chaos.

    Salyak, god of healing and comfort- seems to have a parallel in Nurgle, of illness and numbness, though her symbol is a bird and "not saving those whose time has come" might suggest Tzeentch instead (changing destiny and all that).

    Dzah, a sun god who gave the knowledge of fire to ancient humans- Knowledge suggests Tzeentch, and Fire has parallels in Tzeentch's use of Flamer demons, but Fire could also be a reflection of restriction from Slaanesh's excess (some fire provides heat, but too much fire burns out of control).

    Tor seems to reflect Khorne- mighty warrior, cracks the sky, patron of warriors himself, etc.

    Ursun could be Khorne - Ursun's protector vs Khorne's warrior, or maybe slaanesh? (So many Bears. Almost an obsession of protection?).

    I'm kinda grasping at straws but I liked the idea that Elven gods were ordered mimics of Chaos, and seeing that in human ones too could be cool. Like, the imprint of chaotic gods on the realm of souls is such that mortals naturally adhere to their forms when shaping their own gods.

    Dazh is portrayed as a handsome youth with long flowing hair and wreathed in fire.

    Hm... handsome men with long hair in warhammer




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  • Sir_GodspeedSir_Godspeed Registered Users Posts: 3,415
    Headcanon: whichever Gw writer made Dazh based it on the word "dazzle".
  • MurmurlockMurmurlock Registered Users Posts: 898

    Headcanon: whichever Gw writer made Dazh based it on the word "dazzle".

    In slavic culture we have Dazhbog :D , It's almost the same.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazhbog
    From Kislev with Poorgrammar. :)
  • OdTengriOdTengri Registered Users Posts: 6,729

    Yrellian said:

    MiniaAr said:

    Tor being a god in Kislev is common knowledge, OP you're fighting against windmills.

    I'm more interested in Salyak. Was she mentionned before?

    In the Warhammer lore? Yes, she is quite old. She is one of the lesser gods of Kislev.

    "the Kislevite God of healing and comfort and bears"

    Made a small mistake.

    "the Kislevite God Goddess of healing and comfort and bears comfort bears."

    Literally sends Care Bears to heal you.
  • ASyrianASyrian Registered Users Posts: 1,016
    Its not the real world...
    It just takes inspiration here and there.
    Deal with it
  • sykallsykall Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,275

    I find it interesting that there are four Kislevite gods to confront four gods of Chaos.

    Salyak, god of healing and comfort- seems to have a parallel in Nurgle, of illness and numbness, though her symbol is a bird and "not saving those whose time has come" might suggest Tzeentch instead (changing destiny and all that).

    Dzah, a sun god who gave the knowledge of fire to ancient humans- Knowledge suggests Tzeentch, and Fire has parallels in Tzeentch's use of Flamer demons, but Fire could also be a reflection of restriction from Slaanesh's excess (some fire provides heat, but too much fire burns out of control).

    Tor seems to reflect Khorne- mighty warrior, cracks the sky, patron of warriors himself, etc.

    Ursun could be Khorne - Ursun's protector vs Khorne's warrior, or maybe slaanesh? (So many Bears. Almost an obsession of protection?).

    I'm kinda grasping at straws but I liked the idea that Elven gods were ordered mimics of Chaos, and seeing that in human ones too could be cool. Like, the imprint of chaotic gods on the realm of souls is such that mortals naturally adhere to their forms when shaping their own gods.

    Not just the elven gods. Allmost all non-chaos gods act as contrarians and/or foils to the dark gods.
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