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ranknfile wrote: »
Permit me to disagree with those who think the American Civil war would be boring. It was grand slaughter. I say this never having played the RtI in ETW as I am far more interested in Britain's and France's military as the U.S. was quite the weakling at this time. I also find the clash between Napoleon and his enemies to be the most interesting time of warfare of all (which is why I will never stop playing NTW, as I have RTW & M2TW). A Crimea War / U.S. Civil War (or "War Between the States" as us southern 'rebel scum' call it) would appease both Europeans and U.S. customers. As a military history buff, who thinks the German/Russian Eastern Front conflict was far more interesting than anything done by the U.S. in WWII, I do find the American Civil War (okay, my only ancestor in uniform from then wore blue, he lived in Ohio) a fascinating conflict, one that includes ironclads, submarines and - most importantly - the minie ball which revolutionized warfare in the mid-ninteenth century.
ranknfile wrote: »
I too find the 18th century/Napoleonic/Roman Empire time frames far more interesting than the American Civil War. However there are many Civil War buffs in the U.S. A TW game would be bought by many who have never played a TW game in addition to those of us already hooked. It would be a way for CA to make money .. not sure if they're interested in that though (ahem).
shrspeedblade wrote: »
-only two combatants unless you really wanted revisionist history with Britain intervening for the South or Mexico taking advantage and invading
ranknfile wrote: »
There were numerous conflicts in the mid-ninteenth century, with the Crimean War, American Civil war and Franco-Prussian War immediately coming to mind. Quite a few conflicts with minie-ball firing muskets and muzzel loading cannon; with techinical improvements such as breech loading firearms and artillery coming about during the period. A game with several of these should have appeal for fans of the series. Probably won't happen though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1800%E2%80%931899
chronico wrote: »
Tho I would like to see a civil war total war truth is the only fanbase that they would actually make any money of is the American fan base, I can't really see Europeans really caring for anything that happened in America at that time and beyond tbh.
casper wrote: »
yes i realy like this game but the trade circels in the big campaign would be way beter if it was like it is in empire also the 3 campaigns like in empire would be great !! but maybe afrika in sted of india (or i would like south amerika )
p.s srry for my writing mistakes i am from belgium :d
LSD wrote: »
Yea, we can play the "trade" game, where the entire campaign is spent trading with France. (You can't say dam-n?) that sounds like fun.
Seriously, the US had nothing to do with the Napoleonic wars besides trading with France.
^ Perhaps the most amazing thread i've ever seen, if only because of the huge influx of US players crying their eyes out. A must see.
Colfax wrote: »
Why bring this up now? However, it would be nice to see a War of 1812 expansion. Which would involve England, America and Canda plus indian tribes.
Nemo wrote: »
I said it many times before - I will fully support American expansion pack for Napoleon if and only if they include the option of burning down Washington. Preferably battle map(s) with White House, Capitol and the rest of famous landmarks where you can shell and burn them. Maybe even recreate the "rockets red glare"? ^^
P.S. I know "rockets red glare" was connected to bombing of a fort, not burning Washington.
JEPVA wrote: »
Be careful for what you wish - the game would then have to recreate the hurricane and tornado that hit the British troops upon their withdrawal from Washington the following day- and put out the fires to boot! Rather providential, wouldn't you say? Beware the ethereal ally!
Machofish wrote: »
Alright, I'm going to raise this thread once more from the dead before a moderator finally comes and drives last nail into the proverbial coffin of the thread.
The war of 1812, by the views of both Americans and Canadians, was arguably the most pointless, poorly-commanded war (by both sides) that occurred between us. The Americans say they won because us Canadians realized how incapable Britain was of defending us, and demanded our independence as to raise our own standing army. We Canadians say we won because the Americans were technically the aggressors in the war, and despite all their efforts, gained no ground.
To show just how much of a tie game the War of 1812 was, the Americans stormed York (modern day Toronto) and burned the Canadian parliament buildings to the ground. The new nerve centre of Canada was re-located to Ottawa, which, despite its strategic location, was an absolute rust-bucket slum of a city at the time. In response the British sent a division of the Peninsular Army, which razed and pillaged quite a lot of American territory, including Washington. Result: Tie Game
Earlier in the war, the aggresions started with the American General Hull, who is depicted in Canadian history books to be a completely incompetent, xenophobic moron of a general. Hull predicted the war as being "A mere matter of marching". It very well may have been that easy for Hull, if he hadn't told his troops to burn and pillage the first few cities who indifferently allowed the Americans entry. General Hull later surrendered at the siege of Detroit, when a vastly inferior force of Canadian militia and Native Americans set up shop outside of the walls, and scared him into giving up the fort without a pitched battle. Of course the events after this would not be kind to us Canadians, General Brock, the mastermind of the "Detroit Bluff", was shot leading a charge at the battle of Queenston heights, where the Canadian armies managed to only barely weather out the storm of the American assault. The Aboriginal Chief Tecumseh, who had assisted Brock in several battles earlier, found his Aboriginal coalition surrounded; abandoned by their allies, and severely out-gunned and out numbered, the Aboriginal Coalition was butchered by the advancing Americans. Result: Tie Game
All in all, the War of 1812 wasn't so much a "War" in the scope of the TW series, but merely a series of military fiascoes and mishaps.